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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/24/2007 12:47:19 AM

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Akasha,
I used to think that someone being paralyzed but not physically restrained would be boring, until I learned hypnosis. There's a cool post hypnotic suggestion that one can plant where the person thinks their hands are glued to something (namely another body part) or that they're "frozen" and can't move (but reassured that they can breathe.) It's hilarious to watch their facial expressions as they try and try and try to move in a conscious state but cannot because of what their mind really believes. The "glue" trigger is worth at least an hour of laughs, especially when the sub is highly suggestible. You make the suggestion that the more they try to remove their hands from wherever you've placed them, the more helplessly they're stuck. It's a great trick to pull on doubting subjects who don't believe they were taken under. I ask them if they were masturbating with super glue....or playing a game with me. I'll make them try and try and try to unfasten, and then whken it's gotten old for me, I'll give them their release command and watch their hand fly across the room and their eyes go as wide as saucers!

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/24/2007 6:41:40 AM

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*fast reply*

Gawd, I'd love to be incapacitated, bound & ravished by a diabolical Domme. It's a long time fantasy of mine...thanks Julie Neumar

Have any of you tried one of these? http://www.tbotech.com/stun-gun-775v.htm or http://www.tbotech.com/advancedtaser.htm ?

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/24/2007 8:16:33 AM

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Akasha,
I used to think that someone being paralyzed but not physically restrained would be boring, until I learned hypnosis. There's a cool post hypnotic suggestion that one can plant where the person thinks their hands are glued to something (namely another body part) or that they're "frozen" and can't move (but reassured that they can breathe.) It's hilarious to watch their facial expressions as they try and try and try to move in a conscious state but cannot because of what their mind really believes. The "glue" trigger is worth at least an hour of laughs, especially when the sub is highly suggestible. You make the suggestion that the more they try to remove their hands from wherever you've placed them, the more helplessly they're stuck. It's a great trick to pull on doubting subjects who don't believe they were taken under. I ask them if they were masturbating with super glue....or playing a game with me. I'll make them try and try and try to unfasten, and then whken it's gotten old for me, I'll give them their release command and watch their hand fly across the room and their eyes go as wide as saucers!

MisP... That's sounds pretty cool...!!!!! No danger from drugs,etc.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/24/2007 11:32:47 AM

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Aswad is right. If you hook up a tank of NOz and strap a mask on, you will die. It's called natural selection.

I only mention this, not a recomendation: Many use whipped cream chargers. Some people, back to that natural selection thing, forget to use transfer the contents to something like a condom/balloon and freeze a chunk of their face off. Massive amounts of abuse can lead to decreased E uptake, but we're talking massive amounts. And seriously, if you forget to let your sub breath, you deserve the murder charge.

As for Ethanol, a very naughty sub once shaved every bit of my pubic hair off after I went a few rounds with some spiced rum. Not much of a scene, but great memories...for her anyway.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/24/2007 12:18:29 PM

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Scary and hot. With the right person I would definetly sign up for this. As much as I enjoy affectionate, loving play...There's an equal amount of time when I just want to be roughed up and abused.

Unfortunately, the logistics of having any form of paralysis done in play are immense. As MisPandora pointed out, you'll pretty much need to rent capacity for this at a hospital if you want to do it. And that is going a bit far, unless you've got millions of dollars in your pockets. Not to mention that you'd need to make it legal first, and I'm pretty sure it is in conflict with the hippocratic oath ("first, do no harm" comes to mind).

I was refering more to the overall topic of knockout/kidnapping fantasies.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/24/2007 6:51:15 PM

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The fantasy can be done. It takes alot fo pre-planning. But is more fun than you can imagine.

There were several described here. Mind being more specific?

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/24/2007 6:59:47 PM

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Aswad is right.

Of course. I'm always right.

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It's called natural selection.

Shush. Natural selection isn't natural when you tip people off about its existence.

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As for Ethanol, a very naughty sub once shaved every bit of my pubic hair off after I went a few rounds with some spiced rum. Not much of a scene, but great memories...for her anyway.

Subtle way of saying "I ain't sucking that again unless you lose the hair".

Nah, but seriously, enough ethanol will screw you up in a somewhat good, somewhat bad, way.

I remember some people found a guy passed out at a party, so they tied his shoe laces around his scrotum, and started tossing his shoe at him. Finally, he woke up, pissed off at them, at threw it back at them, hard as he could.

Final Score: Ethanol 1 - Victim 0.

At another party with a similar crowd, they found two guys passed out close to each other, so they undressed them, put them next to each other, then rubbed the rear guy's penis with something slightly abrasive, and used a toilet scrubber on the other guy (yes, I know that constitutes rape, these aren't friends of mine). When they woke up, they were none too happy with one another.

Final Score: Ethanol 2 - Homophobes 0.

The moral of these stories is do not pass out drunk at any parties in Telemark, Norway.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/25/2007 9:17:21 AM

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...yup- absolutely one of my long-held absolutely favorite fantasies and scenes-- would even enjoy making it an on-going part of my lifestyle if ever possible....

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/25/2007 9:21:38 AM

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Akasha,
I used to think that someone being paralyzed but not physically restrained would be boring, until I learned hypnosis. There's a cool post hypnotic suggestion that one can plant where the person thinks their hands are glued to something (namely another body part) or that they're "frozen" and can't move (but reassured that they can breathe.) It's hilarious to watch their facial expressions as they try and try and try to move in a conscious state but cannot because of what their mind really believes. The "glue" trigger is worth at least an hour of laughs, especially when the sub is highly suggestible. You make the suggestion that the more they try to remove their hands from wherever you've placed them, the more helplessly they're stuck. It's a great trick to pull on doubting subjects who don't believe they were taken under. I ask them if they were masturbating with super glue....or playing a game with me. I'll make them try and try and try to unfasten, and then whken it's gotten old for me, I'll give them their release command and watch their hand fly across the room and their eyes go as wide as saucers!

That's so fascinating. It really does perk my interest when you put it that way. The one thought I have always had about hypnotism is what it would be like to make a man temporarily irrationally afraid of something like my gloves. Then seeing the look in his eyes, or changes in his breathing, or all that stuff that shows *nervousness*...I think that would be incredibly erotic. OH MY!!

Akasha

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/25/2007 11:51:53 PM

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...yup- absolutely one of my long-held absolutely favorite fantasies and scenes-- would even enjoy making it an on-going part of my lifestyle if ever possible....

Making what an on-going part of your lifestyle?

Kidnapped?
Knocked out?
Staying under?
Hypnosis?
Drugs?

Some of these might not be ideal for on-going stuff, depending on tastes.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/26/2007 11:44:47 AM

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I have been called upon over the years to help a Mistress do a "kidnapping" -mostly I get to tote the "inconscious" victim. The preferred method is to lead up to it by the Mistress teaching the victim to recognize her special perfume and lead him to feel so giddy and overcome that he passes out as if chloroformed; the scent it pressed, he hears her voice, a black bag falls over head to shoulders and the mule does the old shoulder carry to a van. All seem to have a good time.

But I think less of it with Male Masters-too many roofies, memories of Gacie (sic) and in my case there was a notorious Gay "Master" outside Philly in the 70's who was into the chloroform for real

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/31/2007 6:50:57 AM

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this is my dream which will someday become reality, hopefully. i go for a run in a city that i am visiting. a car pulls up to ask directions, and then i am forced into it. i awake, naked, shaven, pierced, and branded. i am never seen again and spent the rest of my life as a slave to a Domme.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/31/2007 10:32:06 AM

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Naturally the sorts of scenes involving being tied to a conveyer belt leading to a giant buzz saw, contraptions that flood the building with 100,000 gallons of water containing sharks and pirahnas, umbrellas that shoot poison gas and rocket packs rigged to explode are just a wee bit impractical for the average domme.

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speak for yourself.. I do this weekly.. wink wink.....................

I watched the batman and robbin movies later in years...it was so sexual... inuendos galore...I remember the scene where the duo was dangling on a rope trying to avoid being eaten by this huge rubber shark.... I think there must of been a helicopter up there.. anyway the sexual stuff was fun........it was there for adults to hear.......but could be innocent for childrens ears..funny stuff...

I once used the threat of banishment to a very frisky ...misbehaving submissive... it was a drug shot thru him like nothing else.. his eyes opened and he left his misbehaving at the moment... I remember that being a defining moment for me..... it was that glimpse of "that" power... drug like.

I would like to kidnap and own for 6 months at a time.. certain men and women... then they can go back to their lives.maybe.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/31/2007 10:40:44 AM

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this scenerio is both exciting and scary. how does one really know who to trust to follow limits and safety issues?

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/31/2007 10:41:40 AM

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My favorite episode was the one where Catwoman and her sidekick kidnapped Robin, and then brainwashed him to make him their evil servant.

*drifts off...thinking happy thoughts*

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/31/2007 2:31:50 PM

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With a trusted domme, hypnosis would be exciting for both. Especially when she enjoys it so much.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/31/2007 3:44:18 PM

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AAkasha, you definitely seem like my type of domme. :-)

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/31/2007 4:05:55 PM

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While safety concerns prevent me from doing a knockout scene, its never stopped me from playing out scenes that involve the sub waking up after such an experience. Once, Kitty and I were talking about how excited he gets when I make him feel vulnerable, so I tied him up and blindfolded him, then turned the lights off and turned up the AC. I told him we were going to play a little game. "Imagine you just woke up. You don't know where you are or how you got there. All you know is that its dark and cold. You've been stripped down to your underwear, blindfolded, and bound hand and foot, all without your knowing it."

I stepped back and let him imagine that. When he started squirming and looking scared, I moved in closer and started touching him. It ended up being one of our best sessions ever. I got to be rough and bitchy and seductive, and he got to cry and beg and protest. It was such a rush for both of us. I have plans to do something similar next time I spend the night or get to his place early enough that he's still sleeping -- tying him up while he's sleeping and initiating a consensual non-consensual session.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/31/2007 4:11:57 PM

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i'm thinking i should leave the forums, since it seems my posts have become irrelevant and unworthy of responses.

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RE: Kidnapping, chloroforming, knocking out...yum - 7/31/2007 5:03:31 PM

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i'm thinking i should leave the forums, since it seems my posts have become irrelevant and unworthy of responses.

Now now Michael many of your post get replies. That said, making negative posts wont get as many replies as positive ones.

In reply to your earlier question, initially you dont know who to trust, thats why lots of communication before hand is essential. i am pretty sure though that by reading the boards as long as you have, you know whch Dommes seem like the type you seek.

Hope this helps you

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