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How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/2/2007 6:56:33 AM   
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My Master has consented to allowing me my most thought-of Fantasy.
A gangbang.
He and i both - before anything else - want this safe, but still fun for all.
We also, of course, have never put one together.
Does anyone have advice, thoughts, or concerns as to how to make this event happen.

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/2/2007 7:10:41 AM   
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Firstly, sit down and discuss what is and isn't allowed (IN DETAIL). Then, make all the participants aware of the "rules"
 
On a personal note: I would say: NO EXCHANGE OF BODILY FLUIDS (The jury's out on saliva and stomach acid killing the AIDS virus) and condoms for them and you are a MUST!
 
Yes, I've set up a gang bang but, she chickened-out so, it never happened.
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/2/2007 7:23:17 AM   
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well it will be difficult to organize and implement a truly "safe" gangbang...most activities will be limited, and that could take away some of the fun and erotic thrill of it all. but one thing your Master could do is have all the guys agree to having complete std screenings....and then having them repeat the process in 3 or 4 months, the day before or day of the gangbang itself. this way you could feel relatively safe about any incidental fluid exchange, like thru oral. for other activities, intercourse and anal, make sure condoms are mandatory. also make sure limits are very clearly defined in advance, and also i'm assuming that he will be present to monitor the situation in case anyone gets out of hand.

my Master has arranged a few gangbangs for me over the years, they can be a lot of work in the organization stage but well worth it if you find the right people and the right situation.


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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/2/2007 8:28:13 AM   
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I've never beein involved in a gangbang or arranged one.  But if you want to be safe, you'll have to spell out what activities are OK and get a barrier for every type of activity.  Condoms and dental dams should cover it.  And you'll have to enforce a "no contact without a barrier" rule.  Maybe not the sexiest thing, but it will be safe.  Just my $0.02

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/2/2007 8:53:13 AM   
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- Safety First
 
Condoms / Dental Dams are a must. No exceptions. During the scene, you and your Master will need to keep an eye out for condoms that are slipping. Make the adjustments yourself if you can without saying anything about it. If you have to say something, then do so gently. Embarrassment in these situations is unpredictable. Some guys get sensitive about everything. Some don't.
 
STD/HIV tests also a must. The closer in the timeline to the scene you have those screenings done, the better.
 
Foreign objects should be left out. No dildos/vibes during the scene. I recommend you 'warm up' any of the holes you intend to use. You need to be loose and heavily lubricated. Essentially hit the ground running. This will prevent any 'overexcitement' thrusting problems early on that could lead to light tearing of the vaginal or anal openings.
 
Have someone there that's fully dressed and sober at all times that can mitigate problems. They don't have to be standing there in the room. If the lighting is low enough for them to be there unnoticed, then all the better. (I'll cover lighting later) You'd be surprised at how many gangbangs have led to fistfights. Just because you think you know someone, that doesn't mean you know them when they're being aggressive and sexual.
 
Have cool drinking water / gatorade handy. You're gonna need it. You'll be generating a lot of body fluids. I don't recommend taking breaks unless you have to. Just getting a few seconds to have a drink will be helpful, though.
 
Have all the things you'll need for a nice, long shower when it's over. It may seem weird, but every girl I've ever known that had a gangbang felt like a million bucks after the shower.
 
- Environment
 
It'll get hot in that room very quickly. A ceiling fan is pretty much required, as is good air conditioning. You might consider a box fan or two. For everyone's comfort, it should start out at normal ambient temperature, but be prepared to start dealing with heat as you go. If it's a hotel room, those are the easiest to adjust temperature in since the A/C unit is only cooling one main space.
 
Lighting shouldn't be high, regardless of what the videos on the net seem to portray. A medium light level is helpful in maintaining mood and rhythm. The brighter the light, the faster guys fuck. I dunno why we do that, but that's how it winds up.
 
Music is nice, but it's hard to judge what everyone will consider 'mood music', so I'd recommend leaving it out.
 
Chairs/Sofas, clean towels, and bathrobes. Once someone is 'done', give them access to something to drink, something to wipe the sweat off their face with, something to cover up with, and a place to sit that stays in view of the action.
 
- Mental Preparation
 
The fantasy rarely plays out identically in reality. People can do and say some things in a gangbang that you might not be ready for. The guys might not say anything. They may be so tense that the whole thing just doesn't click. And yes.. it has to really click. The guys might talk shit the entire time. Be prepared to be called every name in the book without missing a stroke. In general, these things have a slow start, but once they get going, it's quite a party.
 
Reconcile with yourself that you're going to be chasing every cock in the room until they've all gotten off. It may take some time. It may happen quickly. You never know. Just be ready to put in the work.
 
Any reticence or hesitation on your part will be the buzzkill. All energy will start and end with you.
 
People will laugh, fart, and belch. Your holes will make noises as air gets crammed into them. Some guys will start to stink when they sweat. Lots of little un-sexy things will happen. You will have to simply ignore it and keep going.
 
- Final Curtain
 
If this was a gangbang that consisted of all long-time friends, then you already have a relationship with them, and no doubt you can decide what to do next. If you're feeling a little weird, then here's a few suggestions:
 
When you're done, you are off to the bathroom. I recommend showering immediately. Everyone else should be wrapping up the postgame banter, getting dressed, and moving out the door. The party is over. Your 'team' is helping the guys get things together and shaking hands and expressing gratitude for their participation as they shoo them out. A bunch of people standing around after they've screwed you fifty ways from Sunday can get a little surreal. Every comment and every glance has the potential of either hurting feelings or egos.
 
Once it's just 'your people' around you, then you can relax. You've had a shower, so maybe have something to eat. Watch TV. Have a nap. Just do it all with your Master. Ideally, a good gangbang will give you an afterglow that you can both bask in.
 
Talk to your Master about the event. Talk Talk Talk. The one question will be whether or not you'll ever do it again. Don't be too quick to say yes. Make sure you've both talked about everything openly and honestly before coming to any conclusions.
 
- Fallout
 
It's ugly, but many times, there are negative consequences to a gangbang. People who have participated might 'assume' that you are sexually available to them at all times. They might start making alot of rude and offhand comments about you that previously they wouldn't have. Some of the guys might start rumors or incite gossip that's damaging to your relationship. Unfortunately, none of this is foreseeable. You can't prepare for it and you can't prevent it. You can only hope to choose the right guys for the event in the first place. Strangers help that situation because in all probability, you won't see them again. Unfortunately, strangers are unreliable for STD/HIV testing ahead of time. Strangers also can't be trusted, so discretion and safety will become even greater concerns.
 
It's the people you already know that will give you the most trouble with fallout. It's not guaranteed to happen, but it's something to consider.
 

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/2/2007 4:05:22 PM   
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I expect I agree with everything that has been said but would just like to add one extra point...invite me, you wont regret it lol

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/3/2007 6:37:36 PM   
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Cumulus: I ain't into that scene, but I must say (IMHO) that is one of the best posts from a presentation of information - to the point, technical, "how-to" posts I've read on these forums. Nicely done.


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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/7/2007 2:15:50 PM   
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Yeah, actually, thank you Cumulus, im off to show your post to Sir :)

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/7/2007 4:27:45 PM   
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I liked all of the suggestions posted so far, great advice, but I'm wondering, IF things should get out of hand in some way, who is there to enforce the rules?  Is there a team of non-participating bouncers or security agents?

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/8/2007 7:18:24 AM   
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bouncers/security at a gangbang? i think that's taking the concept of safety quite a bit too far. it's very rare that things get out of hand in an organized gangbang situation (as opposed to gangbangs of the spontaneous, drunken variety). if they do, 9 times out of 10 all it takes is one calm head and voice in the room to bring things back down to about level 3. her Master could be that force, assuming he won't really be participating. in the gangbangs my Master has organized for me, he has only participated in a very limited fashion or not at all, so that he was able to monitor everyone and remain in control of all that happened to me.

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/8/2007 7:26:51 AM   
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Ohjeez I just got the goofiest image of gangbang bouncers standing in a circle around the participants hehehehe!

Agreed, cumulus that was a really well done post & you covered issues that I would not have thought of.

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/11/2007 1:09:40 PM   
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In addition to telling all the men the rules, it would be wise to have two others there who will not play but will serve as bouncers. They should do nothing but watch you for signs of distress and be ready to eject someone by force if that man decides to break the agreed upon rules. I suggest two because it will be easier to overpower the rule breaker with two, one could easily lose if it comes down to a fight.

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/11/2007 1:29:13 PM   
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cumulus:  A nice post, well thought out and complete.  But one thing you said troubles me a bit:

Any reticence or hesitation on your part will be the buzzkill. All energy will start and end with you
 
My worry is that a complete newbie (like the OP) might take your comment to mean that she can't express any hesitation without being thought of as backing out, or a buzzkill.  Just because the consent to be the subject of a gangbang is given, doesn't mean that all qualms are instantly forgotten, be they transitory ("OW, that hurts right now in a bad way...don't!) or more fundamental (This isn't as hot as I thought it would be.")
 
And just to spare us the constant drivel....yes, I know some of you repeat posters are nothing but owned property and have no choice, yes I know you glory in your "daddy's" complete subjugation of you, yes yadda yadda yadda.  Consider yourselves heard and you don't have to reply to this post.  I'm speaking about women who want to explore a gangbang in a safe, rational manner.
 
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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/11/2007 11:00:21 PM   
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One thing I can definitely agree with it to "warm up" your holes, as it was stated.  I was once on the end of an anal strap-on gangbang and it was a very good decision of mine to prep by using a buttplug for a couple of hours before it started.  I did end up with some light anal tearing, even being well-lubed up, but I can only wonder what it would have been like had I not stretched out before.

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/12/2007 9:44:13 AM   
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Like a few others have said, I'm nott keen on this idea {for numerious reasons}, but the info provided is very informative.
 
With regards to the 'bouncers' someone I met on here years ago, was a 'bouncer' at a ganbang. He told me that ALL the guys who participated had to 'sign' up and produce STD test results that were from the last 10 days that showed 'negative' and when they got there, they 'signed in' and when they signed that form, they were agreeing that a copy of their test result was there and would be shred to keep privacy, it also laid out the 'rules' for the activity. The bouncers stayed inthe room and where close enough to handle a situation, yet, in the shadows {a closet if I remember what I was told}, the girl in question also had taken a self defense course, just in case.

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/13/2007 7:13:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Emperor1956
Any reticence or hesitation on your part will be the buzzkill. All energy will start and end with you
 
My worry is that a complete newbie (like the OP) might take your comment to mean that she can't express any hesitation without being thought of as backing out, or a buzzkill.  Just because the consent to be the subject of a gangbang is given, doesn't mean that all qualms are instantly forgotten, be they transitory ("OW, that hurts right now in a bad way...don't!) or more fundamental (This isn't as hot as I thought it would be.")
 


The problem therein isn't with the girl, it's with the guys. More often than not, the guys are 'newbies', i.e. it's their first GB. So they tend to be really skittish from the outset. Exclamations of "don't!" along with the accompanying facial expressions, body language, and general tension do lead to problems with the flow and rhythm of things. I know it's nice to think of this from a politically correct point of view, however, the best gangbangs are the ones where the girl at least appears to be taking everything like she can't get enough.
 

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/13/2007 7:35:35 AM   
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I had a gang bang sometime ago and made sure that I DID not exchange any bodily fluids and using condoms is a MUST no way around it...and since I did it in a public place I made sure to put down clean sheets / towels so I wouldn't be laying on anything contaminated..and I washed my entire body with Hibiclens(which you can buy at any drug store) I use it to kill the MRSA that comes in contact with me and it's used to kill many things...safety first..always.

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/13/2007 7:55:45 AM   
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Cumulous, Excellent post.

TO the OP: Informative web pages on various sexual activities that are invovled in a gang bang can also be helpful. Anal sex, if you are not used to it, in particular, can be tricky. I advise reading up on individual safe procedures for various acts. Also, know your limits. It is easy to get carried away in a GB, and you want to avoid anything that might add endangerment of many kinds. Cumulous is right on all points and esspecially that you should have someone sane and sober and clothed there at all times. If you are fortunate enough to be friends with the participants, in my experience, it is sooooooo much better and is safer. Enjoy! Though I am a Domme, multiple cocks is a huge fantasy for me too, and I have enjoyed the times when I have been able to indulge, very very VERY much. I have a link somewhere to sexual technique saftey. I will see if I can find it.

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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/13/2007 8:12:25 AM   
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I have a huge issue with TRUSTing anyone other than my Sir- so I would never put myself at the mercy of a gang-bang nor would Sir.He's  pretty protective of me & all i have been through...But I totally agree that everything must be Safe,Sane, & Consensual... and Clean Clean Clean- having a medical background I can't stress that enough... Being someone who totally believes in being clean even for my Sir- i would say "douche" afterwards even IF you do not think that there was a exchange of bodily fluids present...I would feel sooooo DIRTY after having that many men inside of me...But that is just me...I have a pretty KINKY darkside but everyone has there own KINKs- and this one is definately not mine....
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RE: How to and safety concerns involving a gangbang - 8/13/2007 8:52:01 AM   
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This may have some redundancy with regard to what has been said before - but I feel this should be stressed.

You can lay out all the ground rules, you can script the events and activities, you can put limits out there...but never underestimate the power (and resulting danger) of pack mentality. Men easily get carried away by the heat of the moment and something very primal takes over...the result can be increased roughness, dis-honoring of consensual boundaries, and the giving in to porn-movie fantasies of making the girl a common cumbucket. To avoid this getting out of hand:

1) Preferrably invite individuals that you know, BDSMers with experience in gangbangs, individuals with self-discipline. Going with just some "guys" you hardly know, without GB experience...they will more easily give in to the pack.

2) No matter how much more fun it might be, but do not allow any booze. Yes, it does reduce inhibitions and allows things to heat up more quickly...but then again, it reduces the inhibitions and things can easily overheat!

3) Start smaller. If you do not know sufficient BDSMers closely that you want to invite...start with a smaller GB. Introduce new individuals one by one (over the next GBs). This way, you widen your circle of trust and individuals that you know that can control themselves.

4) Kick "rule-breakers" out immediately. The moment one person starts violating the rules, the rules CAN quickly vanish into oblivion. To avoid this, kick someone out the moment they start violating rules and not correcting behavior immediately.

Oh yeah...and have fun!

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