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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 6:46:25 AM   
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It's been a while since i have posted on the forums... however, with that being said, let the rant begin!!
First of all, to those of you saying that this is "untrue", what world of M/s have you been living in? ( i mean this as no disrespect to the Masters/Doms that have posted.. ) This type of thing does not surprise me or Master at all.  We have seen this very thing happen time and time again, to the point of offering a place to stay for a girl who's life was destroyed by such antics. Granted she had no children, however that doesn't make the situation any different.
The fact that they lived together 24/7 for three years, while the whole time, this girl was being trained for her Master.  In that training, sometimes and unfortunetly, comes a certain level of brainwashing.  Things often time being said such as " you can beg for release, but that doens't mean you will get it. I will own you until I say so" .  When you hear that enough times, you almost HAVE to hear those words of  "I am releasing you" in order for it to be true.  No matter what the circumstance. 
This tool was a jerk, continues to be a jerk.  He has obviously broken her spirit and her own will of standing on her two feet.  This is a common practice in many vanilla abusive relationships.  Why does it surprise you when it happens in a M/s relationship?
Now, to the girl.  Heed my words.  Even though you don't feel if you are released, that is fine.  That should not keep you from doing what you must do to protect those children. Get back up, dust off your ass, and continue life.. taking care of those kids first and foremost.  The positive thing about you not being released, is that you will not feel free to run off to the first "Master" who offers solice.  You must remain alone for a while, rebuilding you, your kids and your life. Take one step at a time, He will eventually give up on you, after seeing the beautiful flower you have blossomed into and let you go.

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 7:02:34 AM   
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This is going to be hardsh, but maybe it will get through to you.

This is called real life. You need to learn to deal with real life, rather hiding in D/s fantasy life.

He lied to you.
He left you.
Move on.

Get your crap together and take of your children and yourself.

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 7:08:30 AM   
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Ok I'm a tad confused by this one.."Girl" lived with a guy who was known as "Master" right?  Now when you say "online" is that a purly cyber sense or he met off the web in to real time and his shagging the other 4 in reality??   If thats the case why are you even upset by this vile creatures actions??  Get up off  your arse,take care of those children. Any relationships will come after you've dealt with yourself and those children. Children come first   men are always second....

My sympathies..

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 7:11:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Flame777

girl lived with Master 24/7 for three years (Wwe have been together for seven years total) until recently girl found out that Master had others on line, approx. 4 slaves, which he used on a regular basis and did not tell girl... now girl is left alone, owned but not released.. Master refuses to release her, while Master goes off to live with the others.. He has destroyed girls four children and left girl disabled and hating what He turned girl into for His purposes.... what now? 


As a former collared slave, you have been released and his collar means nothing after he went off. Underneath all the Master/slave dynamics, it is still a relationship where trust was broken. I too have a former master who also refuses to release me, yet I released myself the dy I left and haven't looked back.

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 7:24:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: beargonewild

I too have a former master who also refuses to release me, yet I released myself the dy I left and haven't looked back.
On some level that's funny. I can just picture him stamping his foot, "Mine. Mine. Mine, dammit." followed by laying on the floor face down while he pounds his fists on the ground and kicks his feet.

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 7:24:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Flame777

girl lived with Master 24/7 for three years (Wwe have been together for seven years total) until recently girl found out that Master had others on line, approx. 4 slaves, which he used on a regular basis and did not tell girl... now girl is left alone, owned but not released.. Master refuses to release her, while Master goes off to live with the others.. He has destroyed girls four children and left girl disabled and hating what He turned girl into for His purposes.... what now? 


Flame777,

He has not said the words, but he has done the deed.  He has broken your trust in such a way that cannot be repaired and should not be attempted to repair.  You need to accept this as fact.  He's gone, even if he were present in the home.  I know you feel lost, as if you can no longer function without his guidance, but believe me when I say, you can.

You have to rid yourself of him.  Stop referring to him as Master.  Use his name if you must refer to him, or think of a ... *smiles*, suitable substitute.  Stop referring to yourself as "girl".  Now, more than ever, you ARE an individual and you do have a name.  Use it to heal yourself, to become whole and strong again.  As long as you maintain the vulnerability attached to the objectification of being "girl", it will be easy for you to be taken advantage of.

What others have said, about you being alone for awhile and rebuilding yourself is absolutely true.  Understand that we're talking about a commitment to yourself and your children.  They, I am sure, are as deeply affected as you.  People often forget that breaking up with Mom means breaking up with the kids too.  They have to deal with that loss and the anger as well.  You need to put those kids and yourself first.  You have to come to a place where you know you can live very well and quite happily on your own and demonstrate it before you'll be ready for another relationship. 

Gradually, that lost feeling will dissipate.  You will feel stronger and better.  But you have to approach it with all your heart and vigor.

Best of luck to you.

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 7:40:28 AM   
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Dear Flame777, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Dominance and submission requires a power exchange of some sort.  In submission the person empowers the Dominant, just as much as a Dominant empowers the one who submits to them. 
 
The power is still yours.  If the Master has disconnected, your power is yours to keep and to do as you will.  Most likely, in my mind's eyes I see; it has been a long time since you worked with your own power(s) and once you regain that ability -- you'll gain your 'legs' per se and be empowered to make choices what is best for you and your young.
 
Perhaps consider the circumstances and perhaps create a goal of making the young ones your Master(s) and serving their interests and welfare.  It is easier to do for others than for ourselves and this may be indeed the case.
 
How you handle this situation, will influence your young in the future.  It takes a strong person to submit and or to be slave.  It is my personal belief, that no matter the struggle--the strength and power yet untapped will emerge and take charge.  It is right for this moment and time.
Adults have choices -- kids have no advocate but you at this time, so be strong and be there as an inspiration as soon as you are able and or willing to do so.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 7:52:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHugs
Dominance and submission requires a power exchange of some sort. 


The key is in that sentence.... We work on a power exchange. What the submissive gives is talked about a lot is discussions, what the Dominant gives in EXCHANGE is more seen in threads complaining about situations like this one where they have dropped the ball and not fullfilled their part of the exchange.

When a girl gives herself to Me, I take up the responcibility for her. I provide structure, control, bounderies and discipline. I ensure both sets of needs are met within the overall relationship..... If I stop doing that then it is as bad for the relationship as if the girl doesn't fullfill her commitments, removes her submission and doesn't try and work with Me.

No-one hesitates to say "Boot the subs arse outta the door" when discussing a badly behaved sub or slave..... I say if a Dom or Master isn't taking up that responcibility.... the problem and solution is just the same. Hasta la vista! Dust off and move on.


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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 9:50:33 AM   
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I will simply say that your children and their needs are much more important than worrying whether or not you have been "released".  Take this time to look to the future, make plans and don't look back.  Once a liar, always a liar..and that never changes.  Wishing won't make it so..be glad you learned the truth when you did.  Good luck to you always...

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 11:05:23 AM   
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i have read this entire thread and i have to agree with almost every one. as a few ppl have said, i forget who, there is more to this story and relationship then "girl" is saying and i would like to hear it. i agree with the others because "girl" needs to move on and take care of herself and her 4 kids. now i dont know if the 4 kids r from this "master" as he has called himself or from someone else. but "girl needs to move on. and by on line i believe she means met on line and is useing in R/T. thats IMO anyway

Flame777 this part is to you,

it does not matter if he has said he has released you or not. he has done it, released you by going off to live/play with the other 4 girls. i personaly would not mind if he had told me and went to play with them.. hell it gives me free time.. but he didnt tellyou.. and that is what broke the relationship and released you from his owner ship. take sometime.. cry, cuss, bitch, scream, whatever you need to do.. then dust ur ass off.. and move on with the life u want. hold off on finding a new "master" or relationship.. u need to work on being your own master. after all... in the end.. only u can control u.

thats the end of my rant.. for now anyway.

H >:)

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 11:23:13 AM   
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OsideGirl, the visual of the Master stamping his foot on here is awesome.
Of course an unhappy or abused submissive can release herself and should do it
immediately as possible.

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 5:43:19 PM   
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By any chance....were the 4 online slaves mute?

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 6:07:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: windchymes

By any chance....were the 4 online slaves mute?


*splort*

Ok, lost my coffee on that one........ now I have to clean the monitor and keyboard both!

Altho.......... it would certainly make a lot of sense.........

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 6:12:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: windchymes

By any chance....were the 4 online slaves mute?
<snort>

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RE: Master who lies - 8/7/2007 6:19:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MamaDomme

quote:

ORIGINAL: windchymes

By any chance....were the 4 online slaves mute?


*splort*

Ok, lost my coffee on that one........ now I have to clean the monitor and keyboard both!

Altho.......... it would certainly make a lot of sense.........


Sorry!  lol   But I had to ask....

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RE: Master who lies - 8/8/2007 5:55:45 AM   
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Flame, i think you should have used the time you spent posting here to grab your kids and run for the door!! i understand that your spirit may be broken and that you may feel a bit brainwashed from all of your training - but you have children!!!! And however you feel, your children are your priority!! So - shake it off and get on with it!
Not trying to sound cruel - but there are situations in life where you do not know how to continue, you cannot see how you can face another day - but you get over that because you have to!! If you don't know how to move forward you just do it! And you have the 4 best reasons in the world to sort your life out.
Remember - time is not the great healer everyone has promised, time just has a way of moving swiftly on, eventually you just have to march with it.     

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RE: Master who lies - 8/8/2007 8:50:16 AM   
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Understand your priorities and start focusing on what YOU are responsible for - those 4 ums.  If they have been "destroyed" you need to do whatever you can to help them heal.  If you are in such a miserable state imagine how those um's feel. Forget all the nonesense of release or who he's with and so forth - forget him. To give him even one second of your attention now after the way he's treated you and your um's is taking away even more from your ums.  Take responsibility for the situation you put yourself into - i am sure this did not develop overnight and those ums had no choice or say in what took place.  Get yourself support, get yourself help (i have no idea what you mean by disabled) - go to family or friends who will help you heal and be there for your ums.  Don't dwell on the fantasy you lost, i say it's fantasy because if he was really a master to you he would not have done what he did to you, don't continue to honor him even in words - you have to start changing your mindset - sounds like he brainwashed/trained you in the extreme.  Don't search for a replacement - you need to submit to someone from a place of strength and power not weakness and neediness, ifyou do that you will find someone of value not someone looking to exploit you. Good luck to you and your precious ums.  

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RE: Master who lies - 8/8/2007 2:48:10 PM   
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You have four kids totally depending on you to love, cherish, feed ,clothe and protect them. And you're worried about being "released" from some guy, who walked out the door and left you.
This is either a pathetic troll or you need to get your act as a mother together and get help for your kids.
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RE: Master who lies - 8/8/2007 4:26:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: beargonewild

I too have a former master who also refuses to release me, yet I released myself the dy I left and haven't looked back.
On some level that's funny. I can just picture him stamping his foot, "Mine. Mine. Mine, dammit." followed by laying on the floor face down while he pounds his fists on the ground and kicks his feet.


that's pretty much how Somefool who thought his online collar offer, his inability to tell me the truth, and his "oh no she sent me those pictures without me asking or wanting them!!" response to getting caught by his brand new wife reacted.....

Sir thought it was pretty funny when i told him the story, though.

kitten, who seems to have the neon "easy" sign up....

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RE: Master who lies - 8/8/2007 9:56:40 PM   
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Why do you care if he realeases you?  He's gone.  Get on with your own life and don't use this as an excuse to be held back.  you need to buck up for the sake of yourself and your family.  sorry this sucks but ...

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