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Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 8:03:57 AM   
fungasm


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Status: offline 		In the upcoming weeks, my toys are going to have to deal with many essential oils- and some rather bizarre uses for them.

Does anyone here have any experience with allergies and reactions to essential oils (cinnamon, peppermint, wintergreen, eucalyptus, clove, bergamont, lemon grass, etc?)

If so, what has helped?  What do you wish you had known before this stuff was applied on your skin?

And I'd love general feedback.  In the case of something like Peppermint Oil- which I don't know of anyone who is allergic to it (why I am posting here), but I've never heard of a bad reaction- would it be better to have a safe place to try it to make sure it's okay- which dilutes the initial reaction, or is it better to start it somewhere delicious and interesting where novelty will make it even more intense?

Alison

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 10:47:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		You should always test for allergies before using things.... even though most people don't.  You do not want to find out after the fact that you're allergic to one of those oils.

I would suggest you do a patch test.  A patch test is where you apply a small amount of the item in question in the crook of your elbow and cover it with a bandage.  You'll need to do this when you can avoid getting it wet for 24 hours.  If you're allergic/sensative to the ingredients you'll get reddening, burning or itching.

As someone who's allergic to many many things, "or is it better to start it somewhere delicious and interesting where novelty will make it even more intense? " is not a good thing should the person you're working with be allergic.  Potential allergies aren't something one should mess around with even more so with essential oils (which I hope you realize you need to dilute?)

you should really read these threads:

Spices and safety

Cinnamon, Clove, Peppermind, Wintergreen - recipes for fun or bad mix

Peppermind/Ginger oil

Ointments, Oils and Jellies

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 11:18:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		What is the primary component of essential oil?  I love them....never used them on my genitals before though.

I would imagine if you are allergic to the primary component or the particular oil (peppermint, etc) that is added it could be a serious problem.

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 11:32:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Essenstial oils are just that, concentrated oils of each oil. They are distilled through one of 3 process from the natural plane (ie  leaves, flowers, root etc. They are most often extremely concentrated. Most bottles are marked clearly dilute before use and some say do not get on skin or ingest. Some cam be toxic. Some can have some nasty side effects. Some can even really mess up a womans system and be an abortive. The aforementioned oils such as cinnamon, clove, ginger, any of the mints etc can down right cause burns on the skin of your arm, let alone the genitals.
If you are really interested, there is a great book "The complete Guide to Aroma Therapy" by Battaglia that has the complete breakdown almost every essential oil there is with its uses, risks, contraindications etc. I'm not saying they cant be used, but those using them really need to the dangers.  One would think a little oil was harmless but they arent always.  Most are the pure oil. on a rare occasion they might have a carrier oil in them, but those are listed on the bottles. If it says "blend" on the label, I'd be sure to check the label. They rarely are 1-2 ingredients. The more common carrier oils can be used to blend the essentials with to dilute them. Some can be mixed with water and used in a spray type perfume bottle as well.

This is probably a little more info that you expected. I hope it helps.

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 11:35:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually that was great.  I'll be purchasing that book.  Always wondered why some oils cost an arm and a leg while others were quite reasonable.
I've used essential oils in candle making for years. 
Thanks for the info.

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 11:48:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		another point...even the diluted oils can not be used on latex/rubber based toys...
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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 12:33:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		skin patch test is very imporant...i learned that when I used a hair dye that tore my scalp up

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 12:44:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		and what do you mean "bizzare uses"? essential oil is not meant for internal consumption of any kind. 

http://www.cherylsherbs.com/Essential_Oil_Safety_Information.htm

http://www.emsplace.com/ref/bceohaz.htm

amazing what google can do.

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 12:51:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was at a party once many years ago, and I had a cold and congestion (upper respiritory infection)  so I carried a couple bottles of wintergreen and peppermint oil.

A guy I was conversing with said he was sick as well, and I told him I used this stuff and it worked really well..... (I meant to rub a little oil under the nose and dip the tip of the finger and suck on it and inhale deeply)

Well, he says 'Hell, I will try anything' and before I knew it, he had swigged the bottle in one fell swoop (thank god it wasnt the big one) and inhaled deeply------

all I can say is that for several hours he was running around in circles------

and LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

he came up to me (it was a campout of bikers) several hours later in the am-------


LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Yeah, that is powerful shit, you take it easy with essential oils, go slow, find out in stages how much you can take, dont go top down ----go small up!!!!!!!

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 12:57:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		WOW...that one almost goes hand-in-hand with not using Vick's VapoRub as lube!

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 1:03:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		He said he would have liked to try to kill me, but was afraid he would start breathing hard because of it..........

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.


Ron

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 1:07:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		How many hours did it take him to be able to actually verbalize that?

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 1:12:07 PM   
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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 1:18:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah - but were his cold and congestion gone?

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 1:18:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Well, he says 'Hell, I will try anything' and before I knew it, he had swigged the bottle in one fell swoop (thank god it wasnt the big one) and inhaled deeply------


OH.  MY.  GOD.

Maybe he'll learn to wait for instructions after that.  Wowser.

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 3:59:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

He said he would have liked to try to kill me, but was afraid he would start breathing hard because of it..........

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.


Ron


you know...

that's right on up there with the time someone told the bus bully that pouring salt up his nose would clear up his sinuses.

it did all right....

kitten, who giggled a lot that ride home....

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/13/2007 8:50:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: untndedrosegardn
The aforementioned oils such as cinnamon, clove, ginger, any of the mints etc can down right cause burns on the skin of your arm, let alone the genitals.


Yup, i think cinnamon oil is the most common one for "play" use, but it can be trixy... a friend gave us some, but warned to use only the tiniest amount (i think her exact recommendation was to take a Q-tip, and just rub it in what was left on the bottle cap when you opened it) because it burned like hell... We tried a little.. then a little more... and a little more... and finally got a nice warmth going (i have pretty tough skin)

Tried it a couple more times, always on the sensitive bits, never any ill effects... then we did a scene that was so intense that afterwards, i completely forgot about the cinnamon oil and crashed without washing it off.

**(potential squick warning)**



The nex morning when i woke up and took off my underwear, the top layer of skin on my scrotum came off with them. Raw, red, oozing skin. Didn't hurt nearly as much as i expected from the way it looked, but it was fucking NASTY! Yuck. Not at all the sort of thing that we would have tried to achieve on purpose.

So, be careful, clean up well. Most oils will come off with detergent soap (dishwashing liquid, etc). Usually, the top of the arm is one of the less sensitive areas, then the underside of the arm, then the breasts/buttocks, and then mucous membranes are in a class of their own.

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/14/2007 4:42:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dom87110

Yeah - but were his cold and congestion gone?


His breath was full and his head was unstuffed, but I think it was the acute clarity of his vision that disturbed him.  (The acute clarity that he never wanted to do that again).

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RE: Essential Oil Allergies? - 8/19/2007 12:38:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		A majority of essential oils are not intended for straight use on the human body, rather, through being placed in a carrier oil like grapeseed, sesame or apricot kernel oil as a medium.  The "reaction" someone might get from using straight essentials on the skin is to be expected if dilution is not employed!  (There are few exceptions -- tea tree oil is generally ok for straight use, as is lavender oil.  Most manufacturers will say on the bottle if it is intended for straight use vs dilution.)

If you are someone who has a large amount of allergies, I would strongly recommend doing patch testing on a forearm with a highly dilute specimen of the essential you plan to work with.

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