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Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 8:41:49 AM

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PLEASE READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! Today I am on a mission....It is time that we as a community stand up and start policing ourselves....We must stop those who use this lifestyle to prey on others!!!!!!! Part of this insert is from another women whom has fallin victim to this mans' con and she has givin me permission to repost. "...i realize when i am done some will say how stupid i am...how desperate... how much a fool i am.....but i do not care how anyone views me at this point.....all i care about is possibly saving another woman from hurt and harm. What I am about to quote is part of his con "Recently i started talking with a man on Collarme who wrote to me....we exchanged many emails on Collarme and then on Yahoo and chatted online on messenger. we then began talking everyday...several times a day on the phone. He was extremely charming and seemingly knowledgeable about this lifestyle. The one thing that made him different was his approach.... he stressed that he was very old fashioned and over protective and he liked to court a woman. He was a man of character that spoke several different languages, Japenese and Russian to name a few. The story he told was good....he had been married for 20 plus years and his wife had died a few years ago and now he was ready to find a mother for his children. He said how he did not believe how lucky he was to finally find someone he was so attracted to who could be the light of his life who spoke to his heart." He has used the sisterhood of slaves to garner information from us in pretending to be a slave in disguise until he gained our trust and profiled everything about us and other times he approached us as a Master. He is a sociopath/pschopath . PLEASE PLEASE Be aware I am not alone in this as there have been a multitude of women that he has either been in contact with or fallin victim to his scam which has resulted in many losses financially, mentally and even physical abuse. If you feel you have been there with us in this con even if your ashamed to admit it as there is no shame in wanting or needing what you desire to be fullfilled in your life as he uses that to get to you, we are reaching out to others in our time of bringing men like him to justice. SISTERHOOD lets stand up and say we aren't going to take it anymore and stop PREDATORS like this by turning witness against them.

RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 8:44:16 AM

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Are we supposed to be surprised? I mean really...

It sucks but then, this is the internet. Everyone should already know there is a very distinct possibility of this shit.......yanno

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 8:44:29 AM

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The lifestyle con? I don't think I have seen that ol' chestnut used since the winter of aught and six.

The Shill

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 8:56:44 AM

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As the other woman mentioned in this post i beg you to please read and understand how important this is....i can only say this...think of your worse nightmare and multiply it by ten and you will not come close to the things this man has done to women. i have been in this life for ten years and i never imagined someone like him even in my worse fears. i am so blessed and ever since i returned home i have not stopped thanking God for allowing me to be here and safe. my losses are mostly finanacial and emotional but i will say that it will be a very long time before i can ever trust again and the emotional damage will take alot of time for me to work through. my mission now is to tell my story every chance i get so that others will know not only about this man but also that there are others out there like him. If i look like a fool or stupid...oh well...i will just look it but i will not stop until my sisters hear me. Beliueve me...i did not want to listen and it almost cost me dearly....so please read and hear....if any of you have had contact with this man please come forward....he must be put away forever.....it is time to stand up and let these predators understand that those true to this life will not allow it to be used in this way.....thank you all for listening...charlee

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 8:57:13 AM

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Hi,

It is sad when that happens, and it's good that you bring it to light. I have been an online, now R/L submissive, but that never implied that I am not intelligent. I don't know if the cure is to bring one individual to justice or to reassure all sisters that they need to be proud of themselves, their submission is a gift, a huge gift, and like anything of great value, they should be very cautious as to who they give it to.

Personally, financial reference to anything is a hard limit for me, that would send off warning bells, preying on emotions is another. At the end of the day, sisters, have the strength to walk away when your instincts poke at you and you have the slighest doubt at all. Be secure about yourself. If you do get caught up in a scam, do not blame yourself, without a doubt there are pros at this. Learn and move on, stronger and better.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 8:59:23 AM

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 8:59:31 AM

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The n00bs are coming out the woodwork on this here shit.

Lesson learned? Good for you. Want a cookie?

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 9:03:58 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: omegasone

PLEASE READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! Today I am on a mission....It is time that we as a community stand up and start policing ourselves....We must stop those who use this lifestyle to prey on others!!!!!!! Part of this insert is from another women whom has fallin victim to this mans' con and she has givin me permission to repost. "...i realize when i am done some will say how stupid i am...how desperate... how much a fool i am.....but i do not care how anyone views me at this point.....all i care about is possibly saving another woman from hurt and harm. What I am about to quote is part of his con "Recently i started talking with a man on Collarme who wrote to me....we exchanged many emails on Collarme and then on Yahoo and chatted online on messenger. we then began talking everyday...several times a day on the phone. He was extremely charming and seemingly knowledgeable about this lifestyle. The one thing that made him different was his approach.... he stressed that he was very old fashioned and over protective and he liked to court a woman. He was a man of character that spoke several different languages, Japenese and Russian to name a few. The story he told was good....he had been married for 20 plus years and his wife had died a few years ago and now he was ready to find a mother for his children. He said how he did not believe how lucky he was to finally find someone he was so attracted to who could be the light of his life who spoke to his heart." He has used the sisterhood of slaves to garner information from us in pretending to be a slave in disguise until he gained our trust and profiled everything about us and other times he approached us as a Master. He is a sociopath/pschopath . PLEASE PLEASE Be aware I am not alone in this as there have been a multitude of women that he has either been in contact with or fallin victim to his scam which has resulted in many losses financially, mentally and even physical abuse. If you feel you have been there with us in this con even if your ashamed to admit it as there is no shame in wanting or needing what you desire to be fullfilled in your life as he uses that to get to you, we are reaching out to others in our time of bringing men like him to justice. SISTERHOOD lets stand up and say we aren't going to take it anymore and stop PREDATORS like this by turning witness against them.

So it's going to turn into a case of "he said, she said" witch hunt sort of thing. I'm sorry that your friend got used but let's be honest - people have been conning each other since language was born and probably before then. If he has done something illegal, report it to the police to prevent it from happening again. Alert the heads of local groups that they may want to watch his behavior. Otherwise, consider it a lesson learned and move on.

Personally I find that BDSM as a whole is wonderfully self-policing, particularly with real life groups, play parties and munches. I feel safer running around naked at a BDSM club-type event than I do fully clothed at a "vanilla" club or party.

This is not to say that the behavior is acceptable but only that if he actually did something worth putting him away for, you need to be talking to the police and not us.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 9:05:37 AM

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I think it's a case of National Enquirer journalism

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 9:06:30 AM

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Your loses are financial? Please expound. It always amazes me that people will allow themselves to be used for their money. Common sense is the best friend you have.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 9:09:55 AM

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call the cops.

I don't know of anyone who needs a babysitter here. I certainly don't, won't and wouldn't give money to a man. There is a sucker born every day. Magazine subscription people run pyramid schemes like this too, and hell they get away with it.

edit to add: This warning is in big bold letters in e-mail at Collarme.

read on scams, who is responsible now after the fact? you are.

Sending messages to our support staff saying things like "User so-and-so is asking for money" clogs up our support system, wastes our limited resources, and does absolutely nothing to help stop the scammers. Instead of contacting support, we have a reporting system that allows you to report any message, profile, or journal entry with a few button clicks. Using the reporting system is the only helpful way to report scammers to us.

3) Do not give out your personal information such as your instant messenger ID, email address, or phone number to users you just met online. Scammers will often try to take your conversation with them off the site quickly, often including their email address in the first message they send to you. The safest approach is to keep your conversations with unfamiliar users within the Collarme messaging system until you know them better.

5) Our very best advice: Don't send money to strangers!

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 10:06:55 AM

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And when someone reports you as having done something what checks and ballances are in place to protect from false accuations???????????

Who gets to sit on the board that decides what is abuse and what is not???
Who gets to sit in judgement?

What are the standards we now have codified so we can make the choice to be within the "LAW" or transgress?????

Never get an aswer to these questions from those calling for enforcement.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 10:08:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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Yeah, after a night of chili and beer this would be useful information.

That is one SCAM all us fellers would like to know about.
Ron

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 10:30:05 AM

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Quick reply:

I admit to not getting this. I have met many people online over the years, I have never been scammed. I followed the same simple rules I followed when meeting men anywhere else. I didn't form emotional attachments to screen names, I didn't give money to people I have not met and am not in a live-in relationship with, I didn't engage in mental masterbation or discussion of fantasies online, I didn't do phone sex. I met them as quickly as possible and checked their backgrounds as best as one can. If anything seemed off I discussed it, and if not satisfied, I walked away...just like you do meeting men offline. Stop being so damn desperate for attention, you'll be much better off.

You allowed yourself to be taken advantage of, accept responsibility for your role in that, stop blaming other people and move on, be wiser next time.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 10:31:26 AM

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I really hate to sound harsh, and I am so sorry this happened to you. But I think this is more a case of policing ourselves personally, exercising common sense and cynicism, as opposed to ‘policing ourselves as a community’. Otherwise, what do you have? A vigilantly group.

Maybe sharing your story in a logical and appropriate way, in an appropriate place, so other people can read will be warning enough, and make people stop and think.
Again, I am sorry you went through this.

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 10:32:16 AM

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well i am a sucker...but not that kind....

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 10:34:51 AM

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I find the original post a little suspicious.................lol

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 10:42:37 AM

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hmmmm can we say DRAMA? really folks us common sense, if it send's red flags up don't walk run run run! Never give personal information out over the net, never get to personal until after you have met the person in person...and even then be guarded until you get to realy know them...and that takes time. and the most important thing! never give anyone your account, passwords or financial access. in other words never give money!

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 10:45:26 AM

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I find the original post a little suspicious.................lol

No, I think he was a black russian is all.

Ron

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RE: Looking for others like me! PLEASE READ!!!!! - 8/23/2007 10:47:05 AM

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