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Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/11/2007 9:56:35 AM   
TheIronOrchid


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Status: offline 		Hey everyone,

I'm looking for a safe alternative to vaginal fisting.  I've recently started playing with a sweet little subbie who is very curious about fisting.  After looking her over, I realized that it's just not going to happen.  She's uncommonly tight, three fingers and I'm beginning to hit her limit.  She's not a virgin and she's had a child, so given how tight she is, I just can't see ever getting my big hand inside her.

I've been trying to search the web for resources on vaginal stuffing or something similar as an alternative.  I'm not coming up with much though. 

Are there any knowledgable types out there that could direct me to a resource of some sort?

Thanks,

Iron Orchid

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/11/2007 10:07:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well there's always a cute petite surrogate to use instead of you, a nice TENS vaginal attachment or just big dildos with lube :)

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/11/2007 10:20:20 AM   
TheIronOrchid


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Status: offline 		Yeah, I was thinking of dildos and the like too.  A surrogate is a good idea, but I'm pretty selfish.    I'd like to give her that "full feeling" that other women get from fisting though.  I'm not sure that could be accomplished with mere dildos.

I had the idea of maybe just seeing how many foam rubber balls I could stuff into that little pussy, but never having done it myself I'm a little concerned about safety issues.

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/11/2007 11:09:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		there are inflatable dildo's and buttplugs. That might fill her up.

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/11/2007 11:16:32 AM   
TheIronOrchid


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Status: offline 		I hadn't thought of that.  Might be just the thing!  thank you

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/11/2007 4:36:31 PM   
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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/11/2007 5:48:24 PM   
nyrisa


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Status: offline 		The inflatable dildo sounds like the best alternative. That way, you get to control how much dilation is done, so you have total control, and she can let you know how it feels as she goes along. Probably you'll find that gradually she will loosen up more than you expect. Even if she can never accept a fist, if there is some way to keep track of how much it dilates (not sure if they have gauges, or what. *L*), and see if she is progressing, relaxing more during stimulation and as she becomes accustomed to it.

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/11/2007 9:13:32 PM   
TheIronOrchid


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Status: offline 		Yeah, I'm liking the sound of the inflatable dildo. 

Yet, I'm still curious if anyone out there has any 'stuffing' experiences they'd like to share.  My mind is still filled with the vision of picking up a couple dozen small foam rubber balls and...  Well, you get the picture.  LOL

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/12/2007 8:53:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		I doubt she's going to want an alternative once she's experienced your fist. You said you've only recently started playing together so maybe trying for a bit longer might improve things. Fisting takes a fair bit of patience initially.Hope you get there!

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/12/2007 3:17:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Well there's always a cute petite surrogate to use instead of you


Man, that would be the coolest pickup line ever... "Wow, you have such pretty, delicate hands... could I interest you in stuffing one into my wife?"

Seriously, inflatables are fun... make sure you get one of the newer ones that has foam in it rather than being completely hollow, makes it easier to use at "normal" size. If you really like the idea of foam balls, find some large-size anal beads and try those out... They're made to be insertable and are attached to each other for easier removal.

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/12/2007 5:48:00 PM   
TheIronOrchid


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Seriously, inflatables are fun... make sure you get one of the newer ones that has foam in it rather than being completely hollow, makes it easier to use at "normal" size. If you really like the idea of foam balls, find some large-size anal beads and try those out... They're made to be insertable and are attached to each other for easier removal.

...dave
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Thanks for the tip!  I'll see what I can find locally for the foam filled variety and until then I'm sure I can find some anal beads.  No doubt those would be safer ultimately than what I was thinking.

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/12/2007 5:54:34 PM   
TheIronOrchid


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ORIGINAL: michelleryder

I doubt she's going to want an alternative once she's experienced your fist. You said you've only recently started playing together so maybe trying for a bit longer might improve things. Fisting takes a fair bit of patience initially.Hope you get there!


I have my doubts that she'll ever be able to take my fist.  It's a little strange really.  She's not a petite girl.  She's had a child.  She's in her 40's.  Past experience would tell me that this shouldn't be an impossibility.  But like I said before, 3 fingers and I'm all but hitting her limit. 

On the plus side though, it's a bit like having a virgin!  I'm having some fun pretending that I have an innocent to corrupt.  There is no sweeter sin than the corruption of innocence!  

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/12/2007 6:29:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheIronOrchid
I have my doubts that she'll ever be able to take my fist.  It's a little strange really.  She's not a petite girl.  She's had a child.  She's in her 40's.  Past experience would tell me that this shouldn't be an impossibility.  But like I said before, 3 fingers and I'm all but hitting her limit. 

On the plus side though, it's a bit like having a virgin!  I'm having some fun pretending that I have an innocent to corrupt.  There is no sweeter sin than the corruption of innocence!  



Sir would absolutely agree with you.  i'm built like your subbie, and he's quite delighted with that fact....i'm barely able to take two of his fingers.  even after nearly 6 months together, he's still surprised every time.

kitten

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/12/2007 7:53:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		To the OP..Why is this surprising to you? Some women are just built small. Regardless of age, having had UM(s), sexual experience, body size, what have you. I myself am one of the tiny ones down there. I am pushing 31 and have had one UM. I have had a few that were above average in the package dept as well. Yet I am as tight as I was when I was a virgin. The idea of fisting terriefies me for the reason that I can barely get 3 of my fingers up there. A man's fist? NO WAY! Big things come out, they don't go in...

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/12/2007 8:28:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheIronOrchid

I have my doubts that she'll ever be able to take my fist.  It's a little strange really.  She's not a petite girl.  She's had a child.  She's in her 40's.  Past experience would tell me that this shouldn't be an impossibility.  But like I said before, 3 fingers and I'm all but hitting her limit. 




Has she recently had a gyn visit? If she is in her 40's, perhaps she should get her hormone levels checked. If the estrogen level drops, the vagina gets smaller and more fragile. If that is the case, estrogen vaginal creams can help. I know that I am smaller now than I was in my 30's, even though I am on hormones. I would rate as quite "petite" down there. My husband thinks the doctor put a few extra stitches in after the last baby.


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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/12/2007 8:46:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		i knew a Dom that used one of those punching ball balloons.  he lubed it up, then rolled it up and put it in the pussy then he put a small funnel in the opening of the balloon and filled it with ball bearings.  then to make it really interesting he would put a vibrator up snug the her pussy and turn it on.  he called it the bumble bee treatment.

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/13/2007 6:44:43 AM   
onestandingstill


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Status: offline 		I'd say continue graduating from a bigger to bigger dildo.
Remind her at the point of entry to bear down like she's having a baby.
That helps the muscles accept bigger things than they are commonly use to having in there.
Get her a baseball bat.
Have her place a condom on either end & lube it up really well.
Have her maybe do a hot striptease for you some times and fuck herself on it while dancing for you.
Make her mount it while she's showering, or as a morning or bedtime ritual each day or something on a stretching training program.
It's a reallllllyyyyyy full feeling being the wood does not give and is rigid hard the whole length, and the whole girth, the whole time..
How about a Nerf football?
You could put it in a Magnum XL condom, lube it up and stuff it in her twat.
You can buy a traffic cone and stuff a blanket or towel in it to make it more rigid and make her sit on it.
She'll gradually get it deeper and deeper as she stretches out.
Maybe get her all wound up with dildos and then have her sit on her traffic cone when you guys watch a movie.
If you play with her clit while she's mounted on the cone & remember to keep it lubed up the more she relaxes the more the fatter part of the cone will open her up.
LOL as far as pussy stuffing...
I sometimes start with one dildo or one chopstick and keep adding till I'm so full the opening's burning to the point I feel I might tear to add something else.
I've also had guys take off my dress, slip, bra (not an under wire one), hose, and panties and stuff my whole outfit in my twat.
Mmmmm that was hot.
I had someone cut a little hot sun dress off me while I was bound on a cross once.
He covered half the little dress with lube, stuffed that half of it in me, and then inserted fingers and was twisting the fabric and using the knotted part like a dildo.
If you want to be mean fill a condom pretty full and put it in the freezer.
Whew that's a cold thing that stretches you in a whole new sort of way when it's been frozen fat and full of water.
I think over all when trying to insert things her hole should have had lots of lube stuffed or squirted directly in the canal.
Try lots of lubes till you find the one that works for you.
I really like astroglide because it does not gunk up if you play for extended periods of time.
Lube & her ability to relax and just enjoy the sensation is paramount to her stretching and expanding enough to accommodate your big hand one day.
I'd also suggest instead of you forcing things in her to allow her to push herself onto things.
I find if I impale myself onto something vs it being forced in by another I run way less risk of tearing.
Good Luck,
suzanne



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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/13/2007 7:14:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		   Adam&Eve has a fist-shaped dildo...probably about the size of a woman's hand.
 
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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/13/2007 9:57:54 AM   
TheIronOrchid


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ORIGINAL: cuffnspankme

To the OP..Why is this surprising to you? Some women are just built small. Regardless of age, having had UM(s), sexual experience, body size, what have you. I myself am one of the tiny ones down there. I am pushing 31 and have had one UM. I have had a few that were above average in the package dept as well. Yet I am as tight as I was when I was a virgin. The idea of fisting terriefies me for the reason that I can barely get 3 of my fingers up there. A man's fist? NO WAY! Big things come out, they don't go in...


I suppose you're right.  I've been making erroneous assumptions.  Obviously the size of the vagina is not determined by weight, age or the bearing of children, at least not in every woman's case.

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RE: Alternative to vaginal fisting - 9/13/2007 9:59:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: nyrisa

Has she recently had a gyn visit? If she is in her 40's, perhaps she should get her hormone levels checked. If the estrogen level drops, the vagina gets smaller and more fragile. If that is the case, estrogen vaginal creams can help. I know that I am smaller now than I was in my 30's, even though I am on hormones. I would rate as quite "petite" down there. My husband thinks the doctor put a few extra stitches in after the last baby.



According to her, she's always been that size.  But I'll run it past her.  Thanks.

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