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RE: Spoiled/led significantly different then this life? - 9/20/2007 5:35:39 AM   
catize


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There are people who take on the title dominant because they think, “Oh, cool, I can do what I want and get blow jobs on demand”
There are people who say they are submissive who think, “Cool beans, I can do a little cooking and cleaning and fetch a drink and I will have a roof over my head and someone to fix me.” 
Kinky or not has little to do with anything.  In truth, I got into this because I’m a masochist.  But somewhere along the way I found the joys of submission.  Happily I’ve met several dominants who also are sadists.  I’ve also med sadistic tops, and that is fun for me but not as fulfilling.
To make a power exchange relationship work, both (or all) people involved in that union need to accept the obligations and responsibilities of their chosen role.   They need to consider that it is not ‘all about me’ whether D or s.

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RE: Spoiled/led significantly different then this life? - 9/20/2007 11:19:27 AM   
MstrSkyWoIf


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quote:

ORIGINAL: catize

There are people who take on the title dominant because they think, “Oh, cool, I can do what I want and get blow jobs on demand”
There are people who say they are submissive who think, “Cool beans, I can do a little cooking and cleaning and fetch a drink and I will have a roof over my head and someone to fix me.” 
Kinky or not has little to do with anything.  In truth, I got into this because I’m a masochist.  But somewhere along the way I found the joys of submission.  Happily I’ve met several dominants who also are sadists.  I’ve also med sadistic tops, and that is fun for me but not as fulfilling.
To make a power exchange relationship work, both (or all) people involved in that union need to accept the obligations and responsibilities of their chosen role.   They need to consider that it is not ‘all about me’ whether D or s.


I agree with catize and would like to point out she hit it directly on the point when she said

"To make a power exchange relationship work, both (or all) people involved in that union need to accept the obligations and responsibilities of their chosen role.   They need to consider that it is not ‘all about me’ whether D or s"
 
I would also say Kink has nothing to do with if you are or are not in a D/s or M/s relationship. Long before I was in the lifestyle I would tie up my partner, spanked her, twist her nipples ETC. Was I in a D/s relationship because I was kinky? NO there was no power exchange we where just to people having kinky sex.
 
Kink does not make me a Dominant or my slave a slave. Our personalities and nature are what make us who we are. The kink I use just has to do with what My partner and I enjoy together in our Power exchange relationship. Kink or not I am the Master and she is my slave and we both know our roles in our relationship.

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RE: Spoiled/led significantly different then this life? - 9/20/2007 11:58:58 AM   
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I don't think there's any problem in not being interested in kinky play but still wanting a D/s relationship. I don't think you need it to establish authority. For many pain is pleasurable so how can that be used as punishment anyway? Think about all the fantasies that revolve around "being punished".  For those types if punishment is needed (which I don't personally ascribe to) the Dom/me has to come up with something else. There have been many threads on that topic. Honestly I've been kicking around this question quite a bit lately and I'm not sure why D/s and kink go together when they don't really need to. I think the reason is that kink needs D/s, but D/s doesn't need kink.



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I agree with this a lot my phrasing was wrong to infer that kink is required in a D/s relationship as I was looking for something less offensive then “formalized” D/s where on some level you might have the things like rules, rituals, punishments that of course can have zero to do with kink.

Me bad!


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RE: Spoiled/led significantly different then this life? - 9/20/2007 12:07:25 PM   
toservez


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrSkyWoIf

I agree with catize and would like to point out she hit it directly on the point when she said

"To make a power exchange relationship work, both (or all) people involved in that union need to accept the obligations and responsibilities of their chosen role.   They need to consider that it is not ‘all about me’ whether D or s"
 
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I double ditto you.

This was what I was trying to process in my brain that all of you helped with. It is a life wanted takes effort on both sides and not to dismiss why some people do or want some of the things (including for some of us the kink) to get to that place in our relationships.


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I am sorry I do not fit Webster's defintion of a slave but thankfully my Master is not Webster.

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