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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 12:08:57 PM   
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This thread is timely....I have been struggling for a few months now with TERRIBLE mood swings....and manic episodes. I have successfully handled things for many years without meds..I was on mellaril and Thorazine for years....and have been off it for years now...well I'm losing ..and losing BIG time...and I just can't do it any more...so I'm going to the Dr. Monday, and will be discussing perhaps going on welbutrin for starters. I feel like a huge failure even though my logical mind knows better. Everyone(my Dr included) has been very proud of my success without the meds for so long....its just disheartening to have to be faced with going back on them.

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 12:17:50 PM   
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This thread is timely....I have been struggling for a few months now with TERRIBLE mood swings....and manic episodes. I have successfully handled things for many years without meds..I was on mellaril and Thorazine for years....and have been off it for years now...well I'm losing ..and losing BIG time...and I just can't do it any more...so I'm going to the Dr. Monday, and will be discussing perhaps going on welbutrin for starters. I feel like a huge failure even though my logical mind knows better. Everyone(my Dr included) has been very proud of my success without the meds for so long....its just disheartening to have to be faced with going back on them.


Perhaps it will only be for a short time that you need them, to help settle you down/balance you out.

I think you should be proud of yourself for being able to accept the need for them at this time.


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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 12:20:35 PM   
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I think you should be proud of yourself for being able to accept the need for them at this time.

Thank you Bob...that was very kind of you to say...and for everyone at large...I'm so TERRIBLY sorry I have been an asshole lately...


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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 12:22:56 PM   
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I think you should be proud of yourself for being able to accept the need for them at this time.

Thank you Bob...that was very kind of you to say...and for everyone at large...I'm so TERRIBLY sorry I have been an asshole lately...



tish tosh

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But it's nice to have you back, nonetheless.

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 12:43:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

This thread is timely....I have been struggling for a few months now with TERRIBLE mood swings....and manic episodes. I have successfully handled things for many years without meds..I was on mellaril and Thorazine for years....and have been off it for years now...well I'm losing ..and losing BIG time...and I just can't do it any more...so I'm going to the Dr. Monday, and will be discussing perhaps going on welbutrin for starters. I feel like a huge failure even though my logical mind knows better. Everyone(my Dr included) has been very proud of my success without the meds for so long....its just disheartening to have to be faced with going back on them.

The names of the meds aren't the same here in Uk so I will look them up......two things trigger my mood swings......one is a short term trigger and revolves around not having my needs met....I mean most needs I can cover but when  there's just one need too many then wham ! plummett.......and the other is seasonal....a bad time at the moment as the kight is decreasing here by about 2 or 3 minutes per day.....
what makes it all worse, and \I don't know if you agree, is the sense of guilt because most of others seem to have equitable mood.....but i know inmy heart that's not true......most make a good job of hifding their swings out of guilt also.....
I don't think there's anything to be gained from soldering on without asking for help.
But there are good points to moods....the blues are creative for me but I can;t get out of bed to do much and the highs are great for productiviity but I don't sleep much and then the cycle gets broken by a temper or a switch or just an ugly bow out. I've stopped  feeling guily though...and stopped feeling I have to be a flatliner anyway even though I'm 'supposed' to be.....

is the light falling there?

Good luck with the doctor.


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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 12:52:41 PM   
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is the light falling there?



The days are getting shorter throughout the northern hemisphere, Prinnie.

That would include breatheasone.


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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 1:11:32 PM   
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I'm so TERRIBLY sorry I have been an asshole lately...



Everybody has their mood swings and their moments so don't fret about it. I'm glad to hear you are getting control of the situtation. 

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 1:12:10 PM   
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WARNING: slight hijack,  my Master just posted this on our journal ( see below) He regularly melts my heart with these kinds of things....However I am a chronic smart ass and just couldn't resist sending Him this in a text message as a reply "BTW...i LOVE sucking on Your "tap root" LOL....see what I mean...chronic smart ass LOL *On a serious note...Master has been awesome in His patients with me THANKYOU MASTER!!

"I have found that it takes both sunshine and rain to cause a tree to grow. Often times, a good wind causes a tree to sway and bend, but ultimately, it strengthens the plant. Having love in the good times, is great. But having love when the times are aren't as convenient is when the real growing occurs; that, is stupendous!I have found my partner in the storms, as well as the sunchine. I have found the one that loves me in and out of season. Thank you for being my partner candace"



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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 1:13:42 PM   
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quote:

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I'm so TERRIBLY sorry I have been an asshole lately...



Everybody has their mood swings and their moments so don't fret about it. I'm glad to hear you are getting control of the situtation. 

That means alot to me....and I thankyou profusely.... I have alot of respect for you both!


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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 1:18:47 PM   
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Aww, thank you.

I really do hope you start feeling better soon. I'll be sending good thoughts your way!

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 1:29:43 PM   
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I don't know why but you literally do not see how you twist things. I'm sorry but I just can't continue this conversation with you, I do not know how to say things in a way where you understand what I am saying.

People are not hopeless Bob, just situations. This is taking more energy than I happen to have today so I am leaving this as is.  I just wish that somehow you could read what I say without turning into something I don't recognize.



I also wish you could read what I say without turning it into something it is not, Camille.

Last I checked a "discussion" involved two or more people in dialogue, sharing their own points of view.

It is a shame more people simply cannot "live and let live", accepting that others will have different points of view and not feel their own threatened by this fact.

When "discussion" is about -sharing- viewpoints, and not -converting- viewpoints, it is more enjoyable and more can be learned from it.

But as long as some view "discussion" as a battle of wits, rather than a sharing, we'll keep ending up with these kinds of threads.


I take back what I said before - THIS is the saddest and loneliest post I've seen on CM. It also ranks very high for amusement and irony.

What a great compilation of fundamentally false assumptions, close mindedness, and pretense; with a huge dab of bad perspective. Whatever you do Bob - don't leave CM. I'm sure you'll top yourself soon.

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 1:37:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: camille65

I don't know why but you literally do not see how you twist things. I'm sorry but I just can't continue this conversation with you, I do not know how to say things in a way where you understand what I am saying.

People are not hopeless Bob, just situations. This is taking more energy than I happen to have today so I am leaving this as is.  I just wish that somehow you could read what I say without turning into something I don't recognize.



I also wish you could read what I say without turning it into something it is not, Camille.

Last I checked a "discussion" involved two or more people in dialogue, sharing their own points of view.

It is a shame more people simply cannot "live and let live", accepting that others will have different points of view and not feel their own threatened by this fact.

When "discussion" is about -sharing- viewpoints, and not -converting- viewpoints, it is more enjoyable and more can be learned from it.

But as long as some view "discussion" as a battle of wits, rather than a sharing, we'll keep ending up with these kinds of threads.


I take back what I said before - THIS is the saddest and loneliest post I've seen on CM. It also ranks very high for amusement and irony.

What a great compilation of fundamentally false assumptions, close mindedness, and pretense; with a huge dab of bad perspective. Whatever you do Bob - don't leave CM. I'm sure you'll top yourself soon.


Is it actually possible that bob may never see that the person he is describing in this quote is himself?

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 1:44:17 PM   
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The days are getting shorter throughout the northern hemisphere, Prinnie.

That would include breatheasone.



oh just forgot which wat the earth was turning for a short while.....
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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 1:46:01 PM   
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WARNING: slight hijack,  my Master just posted this on our journal ( see below) He regularly melts my heart with these kinds of things....However I am a chronic smart ass and just couldn't resist sending Him this in a text message as a reply "BTW...i LOVE sucking on Your "tap root" LOL....see what I mean...chronic smart ass LOL *On a serious note...Master has been awesome in His patients with me THANKYOU MASTER!!

"I have found that it takes both sunshine and rain to cause a tree to grow. Often times, a good wind causes a tree to sway and bend, but ultimately, it strengthens the plant. Having love in the good times, is great. But having love when the times are aren't as convenient is when the real growing occurs; that, is stupendous!I have found my partner in the storms, as well as the sunchine. I have found the one that loves me in and out of season. Thank you for being my partner candace"




This is really lovely. I think your togetherness in your pic is lovely too.

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 1:49:57 PM   
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Prinsexx, Thank you! Honestly, I didn't even know love and oneness of this magnitude even existed until He came into my life.

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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/4/2007 1:59:53 PM   
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Prinsexx, Thank you! Honestly, I didn't even know love and oneness of this magnitude even existed until He came into my life.


That's the way it is when something great is happening in your life.



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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/4/2007 3:00:44 PM   
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I'm on behavioral meds, and have been since age 15. I don't post it on my profile, and I usually bring it up during casual conversation on the second or third get-together. I suppose I don't see it as that big of a thing. The only time I've ever had problems with them is when I -don't- take them, which has happened several times in the past. I didn't hurt anyone other than myself, and I had horribly rapid mood swings.

I do believe that the person should tell their partner early on in the game somewhere around the 2nd to 4th time meeting. The first meeting seems a bit too soon for it seeing as behavioral meds, at least for me, are a very personal matter. My mental illness tends to only primarily affect myself physically, and rarely ever puts my friends or lovers in danger. Although, I do understand that partner seeing their lover slowly detiriorate is very stressful.

So in the beginning, it should be mentioned. But I believe the issues that cause the needs for meds in the first place should be discussed slowly, and in depth on a personal level later on in the relationship. Often times discussing such things can actually be truamatizing to someone they just met.

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/4/2007 3:07:55 PM   
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I dont have a partner on med but i am on Med for behavor myself
and yes i think you should be upfront and disclose information like that upfront to your partner

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/4/2007 3:08:44 PM   
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But it does sound like you had the support in place to stand your ground with someone trying to push pills at you.

Imagine what would have happened had you not that diagnosis or that psychologist.



I've been in therapy long enough now for the problems I've had, gotten to a level where I could go no further at the time, then found I could go further with later, to know what does and does not work for me.  I'm strong enough to stand up to a doctor.  Matter of fact, this doctor I was talking about, at one point I said, "We are collegues in treating me.  You have many years of schooling, learning how to diagnose and decide treatment.  I respect your years of education and your years of practical experience in your field.  However, I have 40 years of living in my body, and I'm pretty in tune with myself.  Together, we make a crack team in figuring out what's wrong with me.  But if you keep trying to push pills when other professionals I'm going to, who have more expertise and experience in that specific topic, don't think I need them, we will have problems."  He didn't believe me.  I've not been back.

Besides having a really good for me psychologist, I've also got the support of both Sirs.  They help me, make sure I'm doing well, and make sure my butt gets in (or stays in) counseling when I need it.  But they listen to me and support me when I say, "Yeah, I'm a bit down, but it's really not anything."

That makes all the difference in the world.

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/4/2007 3:15:09 PM   
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But it does sound like you had the support in place to stand your ground with someone trying to push pills at you.

Imagine what would have happened had you not that diagnosis or that psychologist.



... He didn't believe me.  I've not been back.

Besides having a really good for me psychologist, I've also got the support of both Sirs.  They help me, make sure I'm doing well, and make sure my butt gets in (or stays in) counseling when I need it.  But they listen to me and support me when I say, "Yeah, I'm a bit down, but it's really not anything."

That makes all the difference in the world.


So it was with the woman I knew. She needed someone who would listen to her.

Living in a world where no one believes you can be just as crazy-making as many an illness.


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