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RE: Oral Sex - 11/7/2007 6:27:34 PM   
gcarlos


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Status: offline 		Well...just remember too that ANY contact with body fluids can lead to STD transmision. 

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RE: Oral Sex - 11/7/2007 7:18:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		No kidding. That's why I don't give unprotected bj's. Many Doms are turned off by this, but I refuse to put my health at risk. It can take up to six months for HIV to show up on a test and I'm not sure how long it takes for Hepatitis. I don't worry about herpes because most of the population has HSV-1 (sheds between outbreaks just like HSV-2) and HSV-1 can be transmitted to the genital area.

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RE: Oral Sex - 11/8/2007 12:30:21 AM   
mya75


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Status: offline 		I am glad you are here asking for advice ...but I really have to ask are you even an adult?..........Please get educated on sex and diseases and proper ways to protect yourself..In fact take a class  or go speak to someone..Health Dept,Doctors Office,Local Clinic...your local College......*is amazed*

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RE: Oral Sex - 11/27/2007 1:11:23 PM   
dirtylilmilf


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Status: offline 		does anyone ever think about how much shit they can contract just by not washing their hands after being out or handling money...i mean think about it...some random person stratches their ass and jerks off then goes to the store and hands the clerk some change and a few ones...the clerk hands the money to you, you put it in your wallet...go home and forget all about it...you know what i say?  wash ur hands more often and suck cock without a condom...you'll probably contract the same amount of diseases in your life.  I knew one guy that jerked off in socks...when i asked "clean ones right?" he replied, "why would i want to dirty a clean sock?"  Think about it folks!

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RE: Oral Sex - 11/27/2007 1:13:24 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		And that right there shows you got a good head on your shoulders,
and that you give good head.

You should be poppin' by the house.

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RE: Oral Sex - 11/27/2007 2:09:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dirtylilmilf

does anyone ever think about how much shit they can contract just by not washing their hands after being out or handling money...i mean think about it...some random person stratches their ass and jerks off then goes to the store and hands the clerk some change and a few ones...the clerk hands the money to you, you put it in your wallet...go home and forget all about it...you know what i say? wash ur hands more often and suck cock without a condom...you'll probably contract the same amount of diseases in your life. I knew one guy that jerked off in socks...when i asked "clean ones right?" he replied, "why would i want to dirty a clean sock?" Think about it folks!



Oh.my.goodness...that was hilarious! Spanking it into a dirty sock? Eeeeeewwww.

Dude, this talk about germs is so nasty. I think about what people were touching before they touched things that I might touch all the time. It seriously freaks me out. I buy boxes of latex gloves from Costco all the time. I have major grocery store issues. I use my grocery list like a pot holder to open the freezer cases, and I sanitize the cart before I touch it. I hate elevator buttons and doors to stores or bathrooms. And EVERY time I shake a man's hand, I immediately wonder if they washed their hands after they peed, and then, I have to go run and wash my hands. Eew. I have goose bumps now.

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RE: Oral Sex - 12/2/2007 11:59:26 AM   
finitememory


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Status: offline 		If someone's got a disease in the mouth, just look inside it and inspect it for sores, just like you should do with any other entrance! In my experience, no sub's ever been put off by fingers in the mouth when they're about to have a cock in the mouth.

The best bill of clean health in addition to a bill of clean health is a regular partner who is clean as well. I'd have to be believe there are very few couples who go around maliciously spreading their diseases.

And I wash my hands every time I use the bathroom. It's just stupid not to do it.

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RE: Oral Sex - 12/4/2007 6:32:16 PM   
Nevershyau


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ORIGINAL: ExpressiveSoul1

Any person with cold sores on their mouths (active or dormant) has Herpes Simplex Virus I ( a different strain HSVII is the genital herpes virus).  However HSVI on the mouth can be transmitted to the genital area and there is no cure.  A huge percentage of the population are actually carriers of this virus alone, (I'd have to find my source again, but I think it was 80-90%) whether or not they have had outbreaks.   The condom doesn't only protect the one performing oral sex, but protects the recipient as well.

A blood test for the antibodies of HSV, even without an outbreak, can indicate if a person is a carrier of this virus.


Before any play with new subs I alwas ask for a STD medial & also got one myself which has proved a workable way to enjoy oral & other sex with new subs even if they were married or single.

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RE: Oral Sex - 12/4/2007 7:16:06 PM   
agoodgirl4Daddy


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ORIGINAL: Nevershyau

Before any play with new subs I alwas ask for a STD medial & also got one myself which has proved a workable way to enjoy oral & other sex with new subs even if they were married or single.



Just remember:  That exam ONLY tells you or your potential partner the status at the time of that exam.  If you have had, or if he or she has had, sex since then (or within a window period prior to the exam where the STI did NOT show up despite infection), there's a risk of an STI that was not picked up on that test. 

Also, it can take HIV up to 6 months for the body to replicate enough virus to show up on a test.  

To be really, really comfortable about sexual health status of both partners in a relationship, consider this: 

One must be monogamous (or abstinent) and one's partner must be monogamous (or abstinent) for at least 6 months and THEN get tested.

Yeah...pass those ribbed condoms, fruit flavored dental dams and sexy black latex gloves my way!! 

< Message edited by agoodgirl4Daddy -- 12/4/2007 7:19:13 PM >

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RE: Oral Sex - 12/5/2007 7:24:38 PM   
NightWindWhisper


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Status: offline 		As pointed out HSV1 (oral herpes) can be transmitted to the genitals, and there is no test for HSV1, HSV2 Genital Herpes can also be transmitted to the mouth, and there is no test for HSV2 that is readily available.  There is some evidence that having HSV1 (as correctly pointed out 90% of the population has had it--but many may no longer be viremic) gives some protection against getting HSV2.  HIV (which becomes AIDS) can be transferred by mouth, but it does not seem to be a common means of transmission unless one's mouth is full of sores.  Syphilis and Ghonorrhea is easily transmitted orally--syphillis or ghonorrhea in the throat af a child always precipitates a child abuse investigation.  HPV (warts) can also be spread from genitals to mouth, but this is not particularrly common.

In short--to be absolutely sure, only have sex from a distance of twenty feet.  Condoms and latex barriers such as oral dams provide protection.  Getting tested, and observing latency waiting periods can rule out Syphilis, Ghonorrhea and HIV. 

Bottom line--sex is risky nowadays.... and if you're female and under 26 ask your practitioner (if you have insurance) about Gardasil to prevent againts HPV.

It's a nasty world--but damn, we're succulent beings--and wet and tasty is what turns us on... so go to your planned parenthood, get tested, choose partners wisely and test at least for HIV (which kills you) Chlamydia, (which causes infertility) syphillis, and ghonnorhea.  The tests are often free, and you owe it to yourself and your partner.

Find a partner that your really enjoy--get tested, and go wild... or to be safe...join a convent.

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RE: Oral Sex - 12/6/2007 4:57:37 PM   
xiam


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Status: offline 		FYI, the test for herpes is called The Western Blot.. it's very costly and very few doctors will actually do it.

For most people, "a clean bill of health" means they've had a blood test.  Because viruses such as herpes and genital warts live in one's nervous system and are not transferrable through bodily fluids, these do not fall under the scope of  a blood test.

Aside from the aforementioned, STD transmitial through oral contact is generally less likely than with genital contact, but there are certainly always risks.

Have fun!  Wear a condom!    :)





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RE: Oral Sex - 12/6/2007 7:40:01 PM   
thornhappy


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ORIGINAL: malloves69

a hand job with no condom is better then a blow job with a condom as far as im concerned ..thats like doing daty using a dental dam ..if you have to do it that way why bother ??? mal

but...but....but... my jaw will last longer than my arm!

thornhappy
* goes off to get the dumbells to get a stronger arm *

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RE: Oral Sex - 12/9/2007 2:56:54 PM   
GoddessTeaze


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Status: offline 		That's very smart new4Uto2use,
make sure you're safe first.

Untill you're sure of the otherone.

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RE: Oral Sex - 12/9/2007 3:45:15 PM   
NightWindWhisper


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Status: offline 		This is for those interesed in the minute details--from something that I have written before...

Fellatio/cunnilingus does have a risk but it seems relatively low for the transmission of HIV--but "relatively low" doesn't help if you become infected and face death.

Ghonnorhea can be very easily transmitted orally.

Syphilis can be transmitted orally and unfortunately lesions are virtually always visible on men (but painless) but in either gender oral lesions can be mistaken for oral herpes, or aphous ulcers (those odd sores that some get usually on the inner mucosa of the mounth--they are harmless) and since they do not cause pain--may be ignored.  However these lesions carry a very high Treponema pallidum (the organism responsible for the diseas Syphilis) and are very infective, and may make the risk of HIV infection much higher due to the broken mucosal barrier.  From a urotoday online article:

during 2000 to 2002. In almost 14% of cases (of reported syphilis), oral sex was the subjects' only sexual exposure during the time they had acquired the disease; this was reported by 20.3% of the MSM, 6.4% of heterosexual men and 6.9% of heterosexual women. (my note: MSM = Male/male sex)

Chlamydia can occur orally and often presents as a minor sore throat or it can be asymptomatic (no symptoms).  Oral Chlamydia can be transmitted to the vagina or penis by this route.  Over 900,000 cases of Chlamydia were documented in 1992 according to CDC.  Chlamydia is often asymptomatic in men, and can be asymptomatic or become asymptomatic in women.  But in the case of women almost a quarter infected will develop PID (Pelvic Inflammatory Disease) which can lead to infertility and other problems. 

HPV (Human Papilloma Virus) can be transmitted by oral sexual contact, though I'm not sure--I don't think this is common. (If there was for instance group sex--this may be a easy STI route).  Person one has genital HPV--person two has virus orally and then goes down on person three--though person two might not get oral HPV it seems to me that this is a good viral route from person one to person three.

HSV (Herpes) Both the oral and genital HSV types can be transmitted orally.  In other words a person who has genital herpes (and who can often show no symptoms visibly) can infect a persos such that they have genital herpes orally sited.  The reverse can occur also.

Condoms will help but condoms never offer 100% protection (their failure rate to prevent pregnancy is such that with ten years of usage--there is, statistically generally one pregnancy.  Semen leaks, they fall off, and partners may not know or deal with the proper mechanics of them.  HSV and HPV can be sited (where virus is being shed) beyond where a condom covers.

In short--as mentioned--the only safe sex is written sex (ignoring Carpal Tunnel for those erudite hottties). 

My take: Commit to an exclusive relationship--both go without intimate fluid contact for the requisite "latency" time, which usually nowadays is three months for HIV which causes AIDS (AIDS is virtually always fatal), and much less time for Chalymidia/Ghonnorhea/Syphilis, and then go for it.  Though there is still risk of Herpes/HPV and some rarer problems. 

Or--use hand to genital, and/or an "oral dam," which is a barrier piece of latex.  Sort'a makes an argument against a lot of partners...and in my opinion STI/STD (Sexually Transmitted Infection/Sexually transmitted diseases (the old term) makes testing a requisite part of life.  If you have no insurance you can usually find a clinic that will provide free testing.  (note: there is no general test for HPV or Herpes (in the absence of an outbreak).

Just the facts of life new4u2use... protect yourself and have fun...

Another interesting fact:  The largest rise of transmission of HIV, believe it or not, has been in the elderly!  The term "condo-cowboys" has been used in articles, and since the women are beyond child-bearing, there "seems," little need for protection---Quick!!! Warn Grandma.






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RE: Oral Sex - 12/10/2007 1:16:59 PM   
SirJohnMandevill


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

It's the opposite of oral sex.
Sigh...it's not as funny when you have to explain it.


I once knew a woman who was interested in aural sex. She told me I could go stick it in my ear....

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RE: Oral Sex - 1/19/2008 10:33:54 AM   
pamela700


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Status: offline 		you'd be surprised at the people who willingly go around spreading stuff.

i know someone who *knew* she had hsv1and2, contracted through unsafe play at parties, and she continued to go to parties and was adamant about her 'right' to do so. it caused a fractious rift in that play circle, those of us who had never played with her broke away and are unafraid to discuss it. then there's her group of supporters, who now probably all find themselves infected.

it's an icky issue, but when it comes up, we must face it like adults - HONESTLY and with consideration for others.

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RE: Oral Sex - 1/19/2008 10:57:15 AM   
tornaway


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   Speaking of  HIV being on the rise in seniors - here in Florida , there was a recent newspaper article about a certain upscale "adult community"  where such a rise was noted .   Seems folks of a certain age who grew up without needing to worry about deadly STD's  think they're beyond all that .  Plus everyone's all well dressed and "respectable" looking  ( whatever that means ! ) . 
 
    Combine that with guys that are simply not accustomed to using condoms , and/or can't get it up with one on ,  and women no longer concerned about pregnancy , and you have a potentially nasty problem .    Geez !
 
     So much for gaining wisdom with age ...          

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RE: Oral Sex - 1/19/2008 11:24:00 AM   
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   Speaking of  HIV being on the rise in seniors - here in Florida , there was a recent newspaper article about a certain upscale "adult community"  where such a rise was noted .   Seems folks of a certain age who grew up without needing to worry about deadly STD's  think they're beyond all that .  Plus everyone's all well dressed and "respectable" looking  ( whatever that means ! ) . 
 
    Combine that with guys that are simply not accustomed to using condoms , and/or can't get it up with one on ,  and women no longer concerned about pregnancy , and you have a potentially nasty problem .    Geez !
 
     So much for gaining wisdom with age ...          



Blame it all on the Viagra and Cialis!!!

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RE: Oral Sex - 1/21/2008 8:17:02 PM   
TheDomInTheHat


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Status: offline 		I hate condoms but taking 90 pills a day to manage HIV is worse so I'll stick with them until I am satisfied that any regular partner and myself are testing clean. I don't really worry about oral sex much

The condom thing is so drilled into my head, I've had some otherwise very pleasant dreams where I am trying desperately to find a condom.

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RE: Oral Sex - 1/21/2008 8:27:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

It's the opposite of oral sex.

Sigh...it's not as funny when you have to explain it.


OH....YES it is!! ty for that.

*lol*

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