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lisaMC -> discipline during pregnancy (6/30/2004 11:17:47 PM)

Hello,
i am seeking advice from other couples in the lifestyle: is spanking an acceptable and safe form of dsicipline during pregnancy? i am in my 7th month, and have been very prone to fits of outrageous crankiness. My behavior is placing quite a strain on on my Master/Husband; however, He is very determined not to harm me or the baby, so He hasn't spanked me in a few months, even though i think i could use a good fanny warming occasionally. If anyone has had a similar experience, i would be most appreciative of your advice.




January -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/1/2004 9:46:29 AM)

Hi lisa,

I'm not a medical person, so you'll have to take my comments with a big block of salt:

A mild spanking should not hurt the baby. However, your body position is crucial. You can't be putting any pressure on your stomach. I suppose a position where you're on a bed, with your body braced on your hands and knees, like a table, would work. Comfortable height for your man to reach you while he's standing on the floor, too. Depending on your circumference, maybe you could rest on your elbows. While you're waiting, you can even do some cat stretches, which is great for your poor, abused back.

That being said, I'm going give you some totally unsolicted, but free, advice:

Crankiness is a natural part of pregnancy--so I have trouble with punishment being warranted. If you think you're canky now, just wait until you have a newborn...

IMO (based on my personal experience), after you've hauled your 7-month along body up on the bed, and gotten all set up, and are posed so prettily, I think your husband should beat you with another sort of stick... if you get my drift. [;)] In the end it could well be more productive in subduing your snottiness than a good smacking. Might make him happier, too.

January




EStrict -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/1/2004 3:26:37 PM)

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I think your husband should beat you with another sort of stick... if you get my drift.


::Laughing:: isn't that what got her in this condition to begin with?

Every Dr. I ever spoke to says sex is not only allowed during pregnancy, it is good for the woman. Release of endorphins is a calming thing after all. I personally hate spankings, but agree with January that if you watch your position, I don't believe it could cause harm. Actually though, I don't agree you can't lay on your stomach,, I slept on my stomach through both of my pregnancies. I still do. If you are going to be on your stomache though, the Dr did suggest pillows under your hips and legs to keep pressure to a minimum.




lisaMC -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/1/2004 4:40:05 PM)

To Estrict and January:
Thanks for the warm and humorous advice [:D] i totally agree with both of you about "the stick" lol! Most of the time, i truly despise discipline spankings, but i value them in their ability to clear the air between Master and myself. Of course if i had to an unexpected Ob/gyn exam, it could be pretty tricky trying to hide the marks from the doc. (i bruise easily).




EStrict -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/1/2004 5:09:42 PM)

if you are worried about marks, skip the spankings, and use the sex to relax. Try a *different* kind of punishment... one more mental perhaps? If the goal for the punshment is to *punish* for bad behavior, it could be anything you don't like. From sitting in the corner, to be made to write sentences...




MistressDREAD -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/1/2004 7:58:56 PM)


actually the adrenilyn that you can
produce from a spanking will go to
the baby and can cause also hyper
tension in both you and the child not
to mention your body possibly reading
your body wrongly and bringing on
early labor at this late stage. I would
suggest staying away from any action
that causes bodily abnormal pain. But
the intercourse would be fine in fact great.
there are many MANY MENTAL disciplines
that can be used towards a bad mommietobe
when she is being hormonal that has no physical
effects to mommie and baby. I think its time
for the adult diapers to be brought out and
the rattles and bibs and camera. maybe sum
humiliating mommie pics of a bare big bellie
in diapies.................for discipline purpose. wink~




lisaMC -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/1/2004 10:04:27 PM)

Mistress Dread, You are one truly wicked and creative Domme! i'm sure your subs are never bored! [;)] Are you sure you and Master (MC) aren't related---wink---. i just hope He doesn't read your post about the adult diapers--lol! i hadn't even considered the aspect of premature labor, but that is definitely something that could happen, given my age---(39)
i do have to say that Master is the most dependable and protective husband a sub/wife could hope for... He goes to every Dr's appt. with me, and makes sure that every concern is addressed and makes sure i follow all the Dr's instructions to a "T"... He's been buying things for the baby all along, and has even built a beautiful changing table. Given everything He does and how hard He works to provide for the baby, i really should stop complaining about the absence of corporal punishment, and appreciate my Master/Husband for the rare find He truly is.




MistressDREAD -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/1/2004 10:21:03 PM)


taaaa daaaaaaaa so there ya have it!!!!!
Leave it to Dread to SCARED STRAIGHT yet,
another gurlie led astray by her hormonial
hemoraging. How about take this last month
befor the lil bundle of tribulation comes and
write a poem to your Master telling Him how
much you adore all that He has done for you
during these times and then sew this poem
on a tee shirt or sumthing He can wear out
in public that others can read to show Him
just how much you appreciate His total effort
and time given you as you give Him the gift
of Fatherhood. And yes you are gifted and
blessed to have the Jem you just discribed.
The best to Both of You.




ShadeDiva -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/5/2004 10:51:11 PM)

Try something repetitive, sentences by the hundreds, handwritten, numbered, and signed, and paying careful attention to one's penmanship, by a deadline, if late accruing hundreds more sentences.

I LOVED essays, that was always a bad correction for me. Repetitive shit, now THAT I LOATHEEEEEEEEEEE!

All it has to be is something that you DO NOT LIKE. Watching nasacar for some people could be painful. Listening to rap would make some folks safeword - having to listen to it for hours could be a very effective behavior modifier. Fingernails on a chalkboard recorded and then looped can make for a VERY VERY effective punishment for many folks, and can often be pretty short, 5 mintutes of that will feel like hours for most folks.

None of which would affect the baby, or your health. Now I can't say the same about your sanity if you have to do the fingernail punishment for like ½ hour LOL!

~ShadeDiva




MrThorns -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/8/2004 8:54:56 AM)

Personally, I wouldn't physically discipline a pregnant woman. Making her sit in the corner, caging, verbal reprimand...all of which should be a suitable substitute for physical discipline. Take whatever risks you are willing to take, but from my point of view, your Master doesn't seem willing to risk harm to your baby. Not a bad plan of action, imho.

~Thorns




basiasubrosa -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/8/2004 9:32:15 AM)

Hello lisaMC, and congratulations on your pregnancy, future child, and for surviving the first seven months already!

Experienced professional birth assistant here, so forgive me if i wax ‘matronizing’ a bit. Note that i am NOT an obstetrician or certified midwife, and have never advised in such a case before, so, have your saltshaker handy as you read.

On the More Medical Side (apply saltshaker here), light spanking oughtn't cause any harm. If your pregnancy is a low risk and healthy one thus far, common adrenaline rushes are nothing to worry about. You get as much from a hearty work out, and exercise is Good. Sudden fear, shock, or severe physical disturbance, on the other hand, may induce premature labor, which is Not Good. But a consensual gentler version of corporal punishment (light spanks, pinches, etc.) shouldn't pose a problem. Do bear in mind, though, that nipple stimulation and certain acupoints on the calves are believed by some to have inductive effects.

On the Nagging Vanilla-Grandmotherly Side (saltshaker can remain shaking), you and your Dom might want to try creative variations of punishment as have been mentioned above. You are both probably tense and tired now, so it would be great to blow off some steam. To that end, try things that requires effort but will also help you relax. The repetitive sentences might have a mantra-like effect. Or you could be required to complete assignments in arts and crafts (knitting, quilting, a visual journal, etc.), which will also serve as valuable mementos after the birth. Or, if you really need something physically exerting, your Dom can order you to go on walks or do stretches and exercises that are pregnancy safe. There are a lot of exercises designed to physically prepare you toward labor and delivery, which might be therapeutic and beneficial. jmho.

Best wishes for your last trimester, and for a smooth delivery!




basiasubrosa -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/8/2004 9:34:38 AM)

O yes, and sexual intercourse is most certainly not a problem, and most probably beneficial. Just make sure you are in a comfortable position, and don't lie flat on your back too long, since that might hinder circulation. With adequate supports, lying on your belly is not a problem. Kneeling forward or on all fours might even help relieve a bit of lower back pain. Sides are almost always safe.

Have fun!




MastersControl -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/11/2004 8:21:31 PM)

I guess I had better say something here. Normally I am very strict in matters. I believe a woman can control her hormonal emotions. I am naturally a dominant man. But I also try to be patience, and take care of those under me. I believe it is my responsibility to decide what is best for everyone, including my wife/sub and my future son. Believe me there are times I want to bust her butt, but all in due time, for when the babby is born, her ass is mine if she breaks her rules or gets an attitude. What she is failing to tell you is she HATES when she has toe be spanked, because I do not spank lightly. And when I use the Lexan or Oak paddle she almost cringes. But until then, I love lisa very much, despite her ability to step in it. And I by no means, want her hurt or the baby, so I will play it safe, and let her get one by me, but remember lisa, I have a very good memory!!!!

MC
Master and Husband of lisa




Estring -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/11/2004 11:46:40 PM)

Boy, talk about being there for your woman. I hope your letter was a joke. It seems as if this is your first child. Otherwise you would know that once that child is born, that child is the Master. And no amount of spanking will change that.




Sinergy -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/12/2004 9:39:19 AM)

quote:

Boy, talk about being there for your woman. I hope your letter was a joke. It seems as if this is your first child. Otherwise you would know that once that child is born, that child is the Master. And no amount of spanking will change that.


I never hit either of my children the entire time they were growing up, despite the fact that both (especially the oldest) is an extremely articulate and stubborn smartass. I love her dearly and would not have it any other way. This is despite my growing up in a household as a smart-ass with two rather heavy handed parents.

I took a lot of flak from my eldest's playmate's parents because they thought I was sparing the rod and spoiling the child. My usual response goes back to something I read (author is lost in memory, may be Clausewitz) wherein it is stated "Warfare is the outcome of the breakdown of diplomacy." Years in martial arts have taught me exactly how much damage I can do to something I am hitting. I was not going to allow my children to cause me to fly out of control the way my parents did.

I did other things. I locked the TV in the garage for a week. I once told my daughter to be ready for gym class by 9am or she was going in her nightgown. She only had to go to gym class once in her nightgown and was never again late getting ready.

My ex-wife used the yell at them for 20 minutes to get a response, and I got to watch both of them tune her out. They still do. Funny as hell.

My children are now mature and self-aware adults. They know when I make a statement they can take it to the bank, and we almost never have disagreements about anything.

If your child upsets your emotional equilibrium, the child is in control. I would feel bad for a child able to do that to an adult, since the adult has the means of making the child's life very uncomfortable. I believe childhood should be a joyful time in a person's life.

Peace out,

Sinergy




ModeratorOne -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/12/2004 9:43:19 AM)

quote:

Watching nasacar for some people could be painful. Listening to rap would make some folks safeword - having to listen to it for hours could be a very effective behavior modifier.


Cringes

You are sadistic! lol




January -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/12/2004 9:29:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Estring
once that child is born, that child is the Master.


I have to laugh! It's so true. It's why I'll never be a slave. I've been one. Three times.

During those days when I get all moony and slave feeling, all I need to do is clean two or three toilets. And my intense desire to serve is satisfied.

January




January -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/12/2004 9:30:13 PM)

Sorry. Accidental double post.




Estring -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/12/2004 10:09:29 PM)

It's not the child I was worried about Sinergy, I was talking about his attitude towards his wife. What the hell is he going to do when his wife can't submit as he feels she should because she is busy with their child. I just didn't like his attitude at all. He's more proof for my Master in nick theory.




lisaMC -> RE: discipline during pregnancy (7/13/2004 3:32:53 AM)

OKAY!!!! I know I am breaking protocol here, but this is the second post I've read from Estring in which he is bashing my Husband/Master. Dude, you don't know a thing about us, as is SOOOOO obvious in your posts....for your information, the child in my belly is the first product of our union, but he is not the first child we are raising together......we are also raising the child of my first marriage, a 14-year old autistic boy. My son outweighs me by about 50 pounds and is 2 inches taller than me, and before he had the benefit of my Husband's guidance, patience, and LOVE, he was completely out of control, but now he attends Nascar races, does chores around the house, and loves to shop and eat out. As far as conflicts with my being too preoccupied with the child to be submissive, that particular issue has NEVER come up, because we both participate in the care of my son, as we will with this child.... we have a very clear heirarchy in our home, my Husband is the Master of our house, and I submit to HIM. I submit to Him because for the past 3 years, He has taken care of me both physically and spiritually. Not because He has a pair of leather pants and likes to engage in flogging and bondage.... A true Master cares for his slave/wife... as mine has for me. Estring, you need to apologize to my Master/Hubby for calling him a Master in Nick only. I will probably get in trouble for posting this without Master's review and permission. Master saw your first reply and was troubled at your rudeness, but chose not to be offended at your assumptions. I, on the other hand am very offended at the assumptions you have made about the man that I love and serve.




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