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Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 12:32:29 PM

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When I accepted Master Jess' collar there was no ceremony, it was just he and i . He gave me a gold bracelet and said this is your collar. I wore it proudly until it broke, several gold collar ( bracelets) later, he gave me a silver I.D. bracelet that he got when he graduated. He engraved my name on the front and 'property of Master Jess' on the back. I treasure this collar more than any other, and hope to keep it on forever. So please tell me , in the absence of a formal ceremony is my collaring any less real? I think it is just as real as those that go thru a ceremony , but I want to know other opinions please.
Thank you , babycakes

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 1:20:38 PM

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If the relationship is real to you---then I would say yes it is real.

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 2:03:05 PM

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InkedMaster and i are fairly private people, we don't have a large number of "lifestyle" friends. We also live 500 miles apart so our time together, face-to-face is limited and would be too far away for 'lifestyle' friends to attend. We had a 'ceremony' of sorts, just the two of us. i begged and He accepted me and He placed the collar on my neck. Is it real? Yes, yes, yes, it is real.

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 2:13:07 PM

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It's as real as you and your Master make it..Tempting

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 2:18:28 PM

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Of course it is real.

is a marriage any less real if you don't have a wedding?

if you have a personal and private moment when you make that agreement, it is just as "real" as a full blown all out ceremony..

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 3:23:43 PM

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Why do you need to ask the question?

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 4:46:40 PM

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It's as real as you and your Master make it..Tempting

My sentiments exactly.

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 4:57:16 PM

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Why do you need to ask the question?

I need to ask the question because I needed to hear (read) someone besides Master Jess tell me yes it is real.Also i read about ceremonies all the time and wondered ...

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 5:03:35 PM

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Why do you need someone other than yourself and your master to confirm your sense of security within your relationship?

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 5:30:36 PM

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Why do you need someone other than yourself and your master to confirm your sense of security within your relationship?

Because he has decided to actively seek a 24/7 slave -that is NOT ME!! I never agreed to a poly relationship. I feel very insecure in this relationship! He has also lied to me before. I do not know how much more plain I can say this. If you have a problem with me asking this question simply do not answer it . Thankyou .
I do appreciate everyone that did answer my question. Thank you very much! With all the talk of ceremonies and Master Jess being with someone else tonight I was feeling VERY insecure.

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 5:50:44 PM

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Aye chihuahua. You and your master probably need to sit down and discuss how this seeking of a 24/7 that isnt you will impact your relationship. And you need to tell him how you feel. He gave you something that meant something to him so I would assume things wouldn't change as far as what you mean to him. Doesn't hurt to ask though.

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 6:01:21 PM

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Umm you had your own mini ceremony when he presented it to you. A formal ceremony is just a way for others to show off. It isn't the ceremony that has meaning it is the collar and what it means to you both.

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 6:03:16 PM

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Because he has decided to actively seek a 24/7 slave -that is NOT ME!! I never agreed to a poly relationship. I feel very insecure in this relationship! He has also lied to me before. I do not know how much more plain I can say this. If you have a problem with me asking this question simply do not answer it . Thankyou .
I do appreciate everyone that did answer my question. Thank you very much! With all the talk of ceremonies and Master Jess being with someone else tonight I was feeling VERY insecure.

BTW- Swpuno was me, accidentally under my partners name.

I have no problem with the question. As I suspected though, the question reveals many problems hidden within.

Your issues have nothing to do with ceremonies- the fact that you are focusing on that shows that you are likely trying to find some straws to grasp so you can avoid the actual issue online rather than dealing with it directly with your master.

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 6:08:03 PM

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Lying to you about being poly? Claiming you're his primary and actively seeking a 24/7 with someone else?

The collar's real, doubt the relationship is very long for this world.

If he waited until after you accepted the collar to mention he was poly and that you had to grin and bear it, that's lying in my book. It's also risky as hell since you don't know if tonight's chica has shown up with a clean bill of health, and if not, anything she has you'll soon be ill with.

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 7:03:29 PM

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Umm you had your own mini ceremony when he presented it to you. A formal ceremony is just a way for others to show off. It isn't the ceremony that has meaning it is the collar and what it means to you both.

Going to have to disagree with this one.. (the part in blue.. the other I agree with)

Granted, some do use it as a show, lot of hoopla and showy rituals. And it seem these are also often the Velcro collars relationships.

But for most, I do believe, it is done simply to include their friends and community, to give them support and recognition as a couple. This is important when the collar is also part of a commitment and permanent relationship.

Ann
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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 7:30:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: sweetnurseBBW
Umm you had your own mini ceremony when he presented it to you. A formal ceremony is just a way for others to show off. It isn't the ceremony that has meaning it is the collar and what it means to you both.

Going to have to disagree with this one.. (the part in blue.. the other I agree with)

Granted, some do use it as a show, lot of hoopla and showy rituals. And it seem these are also often the Velcro collars relationships.

But for most, I do believe, it is done simply to include their friends and community, to give them support and recognition as a couple. This is important when the collar is also part of a commitment and permanent relationship.

Ann
(Yes i know that is not my picture...)

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Yes we do include our friends and family but the hoopla is not for friends and family. I have been to some very extravagant ceremonies and it was just for show. I didn't say it was for all to show off. The ceremony itself is to show whatever the collar means to both but the other stuff is not. My opinion. People have alot of extra stuff for different reasons. Are they needed? Maybe not. High dollar bands, renting out a 500 person banquet hall, don't think that shows commitment. This is what I was referring to.

A collar means different things to different people. Just because some cannot afford or want alot of people or formal ceremony doesn't make it less important to them. Placing a collar on a neck is very symbolic to some, because friends weren't there or no formal ceremony occurred does it make it less of a commitment or permanent? I think not.

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 7:37:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: Maestro66babycak
Because he has decided to actively seek a 24/7 slave -that is NOT ME!! I never agreed to a poly relationship. I feel very insecure in this relationship! He has also lied to me before. I do not know how much more plain I can say this. If you have a problem with me asking this question simply do not answer it . Thankyou .
I do appreciate everyone that did answer my question. Thank you very much! With all the talk of ceremonies and Master Jess being with someone else tonight I was feeling VERY insecure.

BTW- Swpuno was me, accidentally under my partners name.

I have no problem with the question. As I suspected though, the question reveals many problems hidden within.

Your issues have nothing to do with ceremonies- the fact that you are focusing on that shows that you are likely trying to find some straws to grasp so you can avoid the actual issue online rather than dealing with it directly with your master.

I have to go with what LA says here...and AYE CARUMBA!!!!. I am thinking someone is in huge denial, you OP did not truly ask the question you wanted to ask, because you feared the answers..and you, for the most part, would be right in your thought...Tempting

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 7:42:19 PM

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Daddy and i talked about ceremony months ago.

but when the time came and he presented me with his collar....he put it around my neck, pronounced me "MINE" and i am still content.

kitten

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 8:22:31 PM

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Aye chihuahua. You and your master probably need to sit down and discuss how this seeking of a 24/7 that isnt you will impact your relationship. And you need to tell him how you feel. He gave you something that meant something to him so I would assume things wouldn't change as far as what you mean to him. Doesn't hurt to ask though.

I did that ... there is no question about how i feel he knows exactly how hurt and broken hearted I am. He said that he is going ahead with his plans anyway. Then I asked him to choose between us,even started listing the things of mine that I would take with me when I left him. None of that mattered, he is still training this other slave, oh and btw, she also knows how i feel about the situation. She doesnt care either. He said he would choose in 2 months after she is trained. But I honestly dont know if i will even be around by then.

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RE: Without a ceremony is it real? - 11/3/2007 8:27:18 PM

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Lying to you about being poly? Claiming you're his primary and actively seeking a 24/7 with someone else?

The collar's real, doubt the relationship is very long for this world.

If he waited until after you accepted the collar to mention he was poly and that you had to grin and bear it, that's lying in my book. It's also risky as hell since you don't know if tonight's chica has shown up with a clean bill of health, and if not, anything she has you'll soon be ill with.

I told him that I was not touching in anyway anything she touched ... toys or him. That didnt matter to him either. I dont want to get anything from that B***H, I made him give me a health report before I would have sex with him the first time, and i dont think he has even asked her any questions at all!!

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