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A challenging submissive - 8/5/2005 2:21:27 PM

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i, myself find that i like to tease and disobey just to get reaction from a Master/Dom. i do not enjoy the pain aspect but desire the 'rape' scenerio. the being forced or taken sexually. i like to be seduced . then run and be taken. then all of my animal comes forth..... verbal and submissive..... hot and ready to serve. how do U feel about this? what makes a Master /Dom happier? it would only be in the beginning......... 'a capture' if u will............................

RE: A challenging submissive - 8/5/2005 2:24:07 PM

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I am the same way, I also like to do things to get a reaction so to speak out of my Dom, even if that mean pushing the limit sometimes with him. I like to joke and be silly, he calls me his "silly girl." I also get turned on by his reactions, especially when he grabs my wrists and holds me down. :)

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/5/2005 2:28:14 PM

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I adore force play. As long as you ask permission before you start pushing against the dom, it shouldn't be a problem. Lots of doms also love takedowns and forceplay.

This is difference than a dom "proving" his mettle against you...that tends to go badly.

Force

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/5/2005 2:50:35 PM

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Oh yes <huge grin>! In the right circumstances, that type of play is amazingly hot!!! Trying it without permission, however, is *not* a wise choice...in my case at least.

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fate

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 12:23:25 AM

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I guess this all boils down to the relationship you have with your Master. To my mind a really smart girl has learned the subtleties of her Dom so she can judge the right moments when this sort of play is appropriate. Still some like me may well just get up from what I was doing and grab the trik and take her then and there. Being Gorean has one advantage and one disadvantage. We done have the all the flowers listed in the books but if a trik has a yellow flower in her hair or if she has long hair and is wearing it down and tied into a knot over her left shoulder, she is indicating that she is begging for slave rape. Lots of fun for all….

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 3:48:50 AM

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And it doesn't mean you're topping from the bottom, either!

If I wanna do something of a D/s dynamic nature with my girl, I just do it - advantages of ownership. But that's not to say my girl can't start a dynamic, too; she has her ways....

I've always preferred a fem/sub with a bit of mischief about her. She can formerly ask for some form of play or she has the other option of a bit of brattiness or attitude. As long as I don't allow it to get out of hand, I actually prefer the latter method more often than not because it's fun (and not my arse.... lol). IMO, topping from the bottom is a fault with the Dom's control, not the subs....

Focus50.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 4:45:26 AM

nella

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My Dom hate that kind of play, if i want somthing like that i have to ask. But i see how it can be fun.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 7:48:19 AM

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i have found mixed reactions and at times its very difficult to gauge things.

no doubt it would be very different with a longterm partner.

but at times when i am cheeky - i get the response that im being a brat,
when im quiet and more subdued - i get the oh you're a doormat and no fun,

with my exhubs most of the time there was nothing happening, i would create a playful situation, he either lost his temper or went off sulking, saying he obviously wasnt enough for me, or i wasnt being very submissive.

i would loved to have been taken sometimes, but never got it. A fantasy yet to be fulfilled.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 8:09:42 AM

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i think that in situation like theese as always comunication is werry inportant, the sub and the Dom must discuss the issue, see how they feel abote it. Some Dom`s want subs that try to be as obediant as possible, they see that trying to create situation where one is punished to be a challange of their autority, others like to have a bit of fun and games, it think it waries.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 8:32:55 AM

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I've done it, I do it now and then - but, its never brazen disobediance. Its done playfully, in the correct manor and the right timing with smiles and giggles. My Master doesn't mind - as long as time, place and manners are kept appropriate. Sort of like a puppy giving the Master's leash a little tug in the other direction.. Some Master's are amused, some will just beat the puppy.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 11:21:15 AM

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yes i agree communication is everything and i tried many times to discuss things, when i say playful situations, it wasnt outright disobedience to get punishment, it was trying to get him interested in doing anything, something at least.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 11:56:13 AM

nella

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What aboute walking up to him and asking if he wanted to do anything?

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 12:30:37 PM

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What makes me happiest is women who don't play silly games to get attention.

Ask me instead. I prefer the perogative of having CHOICE.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 2:21:11 PM

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yes there were times of direct conversation, but you cant have a conversation on your own

and its why the marriage only lasted 8 months, once married the d/s side became non-existent, when domination became domineering and i found out the difference the hard way

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 2:45:02 PM

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i am sorry to hear you ahd marrige problems, it is werry sad when that happens. And i think that often pepole brake up due to lack of comunications.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 3:45:33 PM

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thanks nella

live and learn, as they say, forearmed for next time and i understand the lifestyle far more, so although not the best of experiences, one that can be used to develop from

sorry the thread strayed somewhat

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 8:56:10 PM

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pishposh, if somone compain one can always draw the tread back on track.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/6/2005 9:16:05 PM

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"To my mind a really smart girl has learned the subtleties of her Dom so she can judge the right moments when this sort of play is appropriate. Still some like me may well just get up from what I was doing and grab the trik and take her then and there. Being Gorean has one advantage and one disadvantage. We done have the all the flowers listed in the books but if a trik has a yellow flower in her hair or if she has long hair and is wearing it down and tied into a knot over her left shoulder, she is indicating that she is begging for slave rape. Lots of fun for all…. "

dLsays: Very well said..it has a lot to do with non verbal comminucation that the two have established..sometimes its just a wavelength thing

dL

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/7/2005 12:00:44 AM

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I have two sides a little girl who in right situation can be a tad mouthy ( usually if partner wants little girl he knows how to find her or hopefully knows if I need her out)
But I do not believe in misbehavior to get * a reaction* I am slave more than anything I think but in either role obedience is important
And as to the acting out to get reactions wouldnt that be followed by somethign other that sex ......... more like punishment ?

I believe forced play can and should be negotiated but then again it does go back to the relationship of the individuals

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ORIGINAL: DesiredLamb

i, myself find that i like to tease and disobey just to get reaction from a Master/Dom. i do not enjoy the pain aspect but desire the 'rape' scenerio. the being forced or taken sexually. i like to be seduced . then run and be taken. then all of my animal comes forth..... verbal and submissive..... hot and ready to serve. how do U feel about this? what makes a Master /Dom happier? it would only be in the beginning......... 'a capture' if u will............................

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/7/2005 7:05:49 AM

nella

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One can set up a play situation where both parties know th sub is acting the brath, but that is more like situation roleplay. i belive it is up to the parties involved, but often i think it strengens the D/s relationship if the sub do not try to misbehave on purpose.

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