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Forced bisexulaity - 2/15/2004 7:48:13 PM

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Does the sub have to be bisexual or does the dom force this as punishment, does she like to see her sub sucking cock?

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 2/15/2004 10:05:02 PM

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Hello there:

the sub does Not hove to be Bi, And it depends on the Mistress, You should know this going in, And to some sub's/slaves it would not be punishment but more as a reward to please the Mistress, some slaves just like pleaseing, And the ultamnte would be to submit to her wishes.......

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 2/16/2004 5:31:27 AM

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This has always seemed to me to something from the slave's mixed up psyche.
From the slave's perspective the reasoning goes like this:

"I want to suck cock, but I'm not gay!!! There is no way I'd enjoy it. It is disgusting, in a fascinating way. I'd never willingly suck cock."

The Mistress then addresses the "willingly" portion and the slave can have his reward "forced" on him.

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 2/16/2004 11:04:15 AM

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Yes I think that is closer to the truth. So the sub shoul admit they enjoy sucking cock, when forced to? I dont think I would enjoy unless I was forced to. That I thought was part of the masochistic side of the expereince.

Thanks for your comments

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 2/25/2004 1:50:25 PM

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I've been fascinated by this for a while and the more I think about it the more I'm convinced that it is the 'forced' part of it that intrigues me.

I would not willingly suck a mans cock, I can't really say the idea appeals to me in any shape or form. But what does intrigue me is my reaction when I think of being forced to do it by a Mistress either for her enjoyment or for punishment.

I am sure that it is the control aspect - that I am controlled to such an extent by my Mistress that she can force me to do something I would never contemplate without some form of coercion.

It could be that I am unwilling to admit that I am bisexual (I can only say that I have never found any man attractive) and I guess you could use a similar argument about either being penetrated with a strap on or by another male.

I guess the long and the short of it is - I enjoy the notion that my Mistress may force me to have sex with another man or force me to suck him off - the important word for me is 'force' - if that makes me bisexual then I guess I am!

By the way - if there are any Dommes out there who would like to force me I would be ecstatic if they got in touch.

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 2/26/2004 4:16:36 AM

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Actually the way I see it he should not. The whole point of her "forcing" him was so she could help him out. Her "forcing" him was a gift. Admiting he liked it would be tantamount to saying, "nice sweater, but it is warm around here, so no thanks."

She did something nice for the sub, he should appreciate that, and accept it.

As for it really being forced, i assume everyone lives in a country where slavery is outlawed. This is consentual. Really she can't "force" you to do anything. You can't say, "Your honor, I robbed the bank, but my Mistress forced me."

Don't get me wrong I love being "forced" to do many things. Without her enjoyment I could care less about most of it. Still if I "ooh" and "aah" with pleasure is she really forcing me against my will?

I can't spell check right now. Sorry aboutb the typoes.

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 2/26/2004 5:52:08 PM

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Does the sub have to be bisexual or does the dom force this as punishment, does she like to see her sub sucking cock?

I don't prescribe to the notion that someone who wants to be forced is really bisexual and in denial. While I may agree that it COULD be the reason, I do not think it necessarily IS the reason.

There are as many things that make us tick as there are people out there ticking.

For some people the notion that they are doing something that is 'taboo' is the attraction, not the act itself or the person the act is occurring on. That would not necessarily make them bisexual, that would be someone who is willing to experiment and push boundaries for the thrill of the push.

For someone else it may simply be the thrill of proving their servitude to the woman by doing something they would never do on their own (this would be the tick for me).

In my experience these are people who don't usually bring it up (other than in discussions about limits), rather they address it when it is asked of them.

Then there is the humiliation slut who craves the humiliation of doing something they consider abhorrent.

However, the game of "Mistress, please force me to do exactly what I really want to do" leaves me cold. If you WANT to suck cock and can't bring yourself to do it alone then get real with yourself and with her. If you WANT to be 'forced' then it should be discussed at great length to determine if it's because you are intrigued, if it's because you find it thrilling, if it's because you want to prove your devotion or if it's because you prefer a 'no choice' role play.

"This above all: to thine own self be true; And it must follow, as the night the day; Thou canst not then be false to any man" (or dominant woman).

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 2/28/2004 4:49:14 PM

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Does the sub have to be bisexual or does the dom force this as punishment, does she like to see her sub sucking cock?

My personal preference: it is not fun or enjoyable for Me if the slave is willing to suck cock, i.e, he is bisexual. My pleasure comes from forcing it on him, not a punishment but because I want to be amused.

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 3/9/2004 1:12:08 PM

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I have experienced this myself. I too do not consider myself gay. But one night my Mistress blindfolded me and tied my hands behind my back, I was kneeling. She moved behind me and held my head, then I felt a large cock enter my mouth. I must say it was a total shock, but after it was all said and done, it was not as bad as I thought it could be. But I too think for me it was to please the Mistress, I never saw the guy either, which for me was better.

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 3/9/2004 9:14:49 PM

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I have a question about this I am not sure if I should put it on another thread or not.

Would a Mistress force a lesbian female sub to give a guy a blow job. I am just wondering if any of the Mistresses might do that.

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 3/10/2004 5:33:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: tweetygirl

I have a question about this I am not sure if I should put it on another thread or not.

Would a Mistress force a lesbian female sub to give a guy a blow job. I am just wondering if any of the Mistresses might do that.

Amanda

I suppose that depends on her limits and what I have come to believe is her interests.

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 3/11/2004 12:35:01 AM

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what if she is terrified of a men and it is her limit. Can a Mistress force her.

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 3/11/2004 1:22:33 PM

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what if she is terrified of a men and it is her limit. Can a Mistress force her.

Amanda

In my opinion any type of person with any type of scruples at all won't force someone to do something against their will.
A Dominant negotiates with us prior to our submission. The rules have been set. Why do Dominants have the gall to try to change the rules later on?

Just as pushing limits. This question goes right along those lines. I told you what I liked and did'nt like before we got together. You accepted me for who I am. Told me it would'nt be a problem. Ok...now...(assuming) its years down the line and the Dominant wants to change things without proper communication and stretch or break my limits. Is that right?
Hell no...in my mind that is an insecure person who does'nt know what they want or need out of life yet. They need to do some serious soul searching.
Yet...I am a very opinionated submissive as well.

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 3/16/2004 7:22:26 AM

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I hate sucking cock or being topped, but if my Mistress makes me I enjoy doing ...for her

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 3/17/2004 12:59:58 PM

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Is that a picture of you and your Mistress? If so more would be great :)

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 4/8/2004 1:32:52 PM

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 4/8/2004 1:35:03 PM

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best of both worlds

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 4/9/2004 12:35:15 AM

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what if she is terrified of a men and it is her limit. Can a Mistress force her.

Amanda

Not if that mistress ever intends to play with that person again......

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 4/10/2004 11:54:04 AM

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what if she is terrified of a men and it is her limit. Can a Mistress force her.

Amanda

In this case, absolutely not. At the most, if this sub wanted to work past that fear I would consider controlled encounters where the experience was gentle but increasingly intimate.

However, if the line is drawn simply because her orientation leaves her devoid of any attraction and/or it is because she is a separatist who for political reasons insists unpon no interaction with men, my viewpoint shifts.
Were she to insult, or verbally degrade someone in the scene simply because he was male, she would find her punishment involving some sort of cock and ball worship.

And I tend to have the same views for male subs. I will not force past limits set for reasons I consider valid (deep seated fears, abuse history etc.), but if its simply a limit set because of lack of interest or misguided perceptions then they better not act on any of that or condemn those without the inhibition. When they do, they will have to make a choice between accepting punishment specifically geared to counter the offense, or be deprived of my attention all together.

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RE: Forced bisexulaity - 4/27/2004 8:24:54 PM

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i dont wish to intrude but i would hope to elaberate on the original question.
my particular fear is that i might be rejected or dismised by a mistress for a particular limmit such as bisexuality ,if one wishes to remain with a mistress and cannot adhear to all her wishes would she not be rid of him ?

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