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MsLilac -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (12/1/2007 3:02:50 PM)
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ORIGINAL: bottomboy81
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That’s the second post from a man on here with an entitlement complex. What is it with these men? Sheesh. You’d have us women believe that we are suppose to role over and spread our legs every time your cocks get hard!
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ORIGINAL: bottomboy81
ya ya what ever, I think being rejected 99 percent of the time validates bitterness. Its really a miracle that most men still like women from after years of rejection. Women are bitter all the time as men always have to prove them selfs that they are not after women to only use them. Kinda like guilty until proven innocent. Yet a womans bitterness is always more validated and they make the rules and are on top of the game. But than again, a lot of todays women are shameless hypocrites, what else is new.
bottomboy-
Your diatribe has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have seen written. I don’t mean this in a sarcastic way, but seriously, my suggestion is you learn to get over your petulance, and open your eyes a little. You may enjoy life and relationships more (and have better luck) if you stop tarnishing a whole gender with unfounded social commentary.
What have you done to make the kind of woman you seek want you?
Thanks for the advice but its completely false. It is validated to be bitter when you have been rejected 99 percent of the time. It's just like not trusting dogs when 99 percent of the time you came across one, it bit you. What I don't understand is that its perfectly acceptable for women to think men are guilty until proven innocent as we always have to prove our selfs that we are not only wanting one thing. Which I think is a higher level of bitterness than just being bitter for being rejected.
Or all the women out there that have the mentality that there are not many decent men or there are no decent men. You see these women every day, they are everywhere. It wouldn't be hard to come across one on this site or even this thread.
It seems more validated and socially acceptable for a woman to be bitter but it should be the other way around as women have it a lot easier than men. Men having it the hardest, we get judged worse than women when we are bitter but its no surprise for women having double standards. They are full of them and are 100 percent shameless about it. Which is also defined as entitlement mentality
It's women who have the entitlement mentality more than anything these days. The princess entitlement mentality is an social acceptance. Many women expect chivalry and some traditional values to remain (that only benefit them) and then think men are entitled to nothing. Even that these women are expecting men to do these things, he doesn't deserve anything in return. Thats sadly how a lot of women think these days. They make entitlements for them selves and see a man as a fool if he refuses to follow them but when a man thinks he has entitlements, he is an idiot.
Now, I could sit here, and counteract everyone of your accusations, with reverse anecdotes regarding the male gender. But there is no point, and frankly I don’t have the time, or the inclination to get into that, it is petty and futile. All men and women are individuals, I have had bad experiences with men, I certainly don’t tarnish them with the same brush, or assume that is what the majority of men are like.
Now, I hate to go about preaching about making sweeping generalisations, but I assume you understand why making sweeping generalising (particularly unfounded ones) never works? I hate to get personal here, and I don’t mean it to offend, but are you really surprised you are rejected 99% of the time when you make offensive, sweeping generalisations, and feel all women are like this, and show resentment to them, that seems to borderline misogyny? The fact that you seem to be rejected by the type of women you describe, says an awful lot about the type of women you seem to be attracted to.
No, it is not valid to lump all women into broad, carelessly thought out categories, just because you have been rejected by 99% of the women you approach. It would be more appropriate to stop shifting the ‘blame’ onto the objects of your desire, stop resenting them, then ask yourself what it is you are doing wrong. Though, obviously, that is not nearly as convenient.
As a side note, you also forget, a lot of men like women with the Princess complex, and treating them as such, and actively seek it. Obviously this is not for you.
This thread is just getting too silly, I’m out of here.
This classic shaming tactic is always reflected on men when they are being bitter. When you really think about it, what was the cause of the person getting bitter the first place? But the defense some women come up with is that the bitter person is getting rejected because they have always been bitter since they were born. So much for logic.
But anyway you are saying that I am generalising and you claim that most women don't do these things? Well unfortunately their actions don't apply that way, thats the way I see it, you are entitled to think different.
A lot of men who are desperate or really want the woman's interest big time may provide women with these things willingly. But the problem is that a lot of women demand it or expect it.
Do not tell me what it was I was saying, or doing. I was clear and upfront, your diatribe begged questions, I asked them. I was not shaming you. Mind your manners man, and stop being manipulative. The “shaming tactic” as you put it (or in my words, suggested self reflection) is in fact a basic thing most emotionally intelligent people do, when things are not working out for them.
If something is not working out for an emotionally intelligent person, then the logical thing is to ask themselves ‘what is it I am doing and putting out there, that could be counter productive to my search’. People who find it difficult to face up to that, blame the object of their desires, and everyone else, and scorn - it’s much easier.
It could be you are attracted to the ‘wrong’ type, and effectively banging your head against a brick wall, I am guessing that you are exteriorly attracted to the types you describe. It could be that you just haven’t tried enough, it doesn’t happen overnight, finding someone with compatible kinks as well as someone we gel with is never easy. Or more probably, you are another male looking for a top. The simple fact is, bottom males looking solely for fem tops are ubiquitous. The amount of purely fem tops (non pro) looking solely male bottoms are relatively scarce. It’s not easy and it’s a long wait for a purely male bottom. I guess it’s fairly common they then start looking at the pros, and start to resent them for not giving it away, that’s when the perspective bias comes in.
One doesn’t just ‘walk’ into relationships, then exist. You don’t just sit there once you have found someone. It’s a long term mutual energy exchange and fulfilling each others needs - a one sided relationship like you describe just simply wouldn’t work. And likewise, when finding a relationship, you don’t just sit there and ‘want’, then eventually get resentful when it doesn’t happen. You figure out what is appropriate for your needs, what it is you have to offer, and putting the correct vibe out there that is appropriate to what you seek. Ok, I have over simplified, but your beliefs are going to stop what it is your profile says you seek.
“But anyway you are saying that I am generalising and you claim that most women don't do these things? Well unfortunately their actions don't apply that way, thats the way I see it” (emphasis added)
That’s is the way you see it, as you have a perspective bias. For some reason you have been unsuccessful (to date), and you are allowing that to formulate an unjust, negative and bitter viewpoint, rather than taking a positive and productive viewpoint. All the women I know are not as you describe, that is my truth. I politely suggest that you pay a lot of attention the part of the above post I have underlined and have bolded and really think about the meaning of that one little word.
“ A lot of men who are desperate or really want the woman's interest big time may provide women with these things willingly. But the problem is that a lot of women demand it or expect it.”
Why is that a “problem”? For you, yes, it would be. What you describe is the height of romance for some people of both genders and they BOTH enjoy it. Are women suppose to just be grateful we have male interest, and have no standards, and then roll over and spread our legs for whoever wants us? Or just because you want them? Or, if we do have standards, then fawn fake modesty to keep your ego intact? I mean, how dare we demand or expect anything! How dare we desire. I take it entitlement complexes are meant solely for yourself and the rest of the male domain then?
But anyway, this thread has descended into inanity. I really am out of here this time lol.
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