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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 4:03:50 PM   
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May i just barge in here??? i would never thought that such a silly question would be the hottest topic of this board!!! Have a great day!!

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 4:07:34 PM   
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smith117 says:   "Typically," female dommes are mostly about controlling their slaves' wallets.
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If a male sub is THAT stupid, he DESERVES to get ripped off financially.






And that right there is the fundamental basis for my point. What I take from that statement is "If I can get the money out of him, why shouldn't I? He deserves to be ripped off."

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 4:28:26 PM   
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The dommes don't care about that, its all about what they want and this is somehow supposed to remain a healthy relationship. A normal person wouldn't stay in one if they were not satisfied.

Not to mention, is a human being normal if they have no feelings for sex? unless they have a bad sex drive.


Actually, I have found the opposite to be true.  A large majority of the male subs I have talked to prefer long-term complete chastity.  I am more likely to impose chastity for a short time and actually want to have sex with them.  There have been plenty that have had no interest in me as such.

Assuming all dommes don't care or that you speak for all subs is just ridiculous. As has been suggested here a couple of times now, instead of wasting time posting about how bitter you are, go put some work into finding someone that fits your needs and educate yourself on the fact that we are all different and not all women are ANY one thing and not all Dommes are ANY one thing and not all subs are ANY one thing.  I am doubtful this thread will make you more appealing to those you talk to however.


< Message edited by laurell3 -- 11/30/2007 4:37:06 PM >


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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 4:45:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

quote:

ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

The dommes don't care about that, its all about what they want and this is somehow supposed to remain a healthy relationship. A normal person wouldn't stay in one if they were not satisfied.

Not to mention, is a human being normal if they have no feelings for sex? unless they have a bad sex drive.


Actually, I have found the opposite to be true.  A large majority of the male subs I have talked to prefer long-term complete chastity.  I am more likely to impose chastity for a short time and actually want to have sex with them.  There have been plenty that have had no interest in me as such.

Assuming all dommes don't care or that you speak for all subs is just ridiculous. As has been suggested here a couple of times now, instead of wasting time posting about how bitter you are, go put some work into finding someone that fits your needs and educate yourself on the fact that we are all different and not all women are ANY one thing and not all Dommes are ANY one thing and not all subs are ANY one thing.  I am doubtful this thread will make you more appealing to those you talk to however.



This thread is about the subs who want sex, and the dommes that wont do it. It's not about the subs who want to be in chastity and or never get it. The problem is that the majority of dommes won't put out but they will be more easy on giving oral to another woman if they are bi. However, most expect to get everything they want out of male subs and then still think they shouldn't give a male what he wants the most, an orgasm. To say that most dommes will supply sex is ridiculous regarding to how many dommes complain about that factor.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 4:56:30 PM   
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You are still overgeneralizing from your embittered point of view ... which is quite skewed in the wrong direction. 

Yes, the post was originally about a male sub wanting sex from a  domme - but with overgeneralizations like the ones that you've made, some decided to point out how wrong you are.  So why is it that you are allowed to overgeneralize about us, but we aren't allowed to tell you that you are wrong?

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 4:57:16 PM   
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How can you make outrageous claims about what the majority of Dommes will or won't do?  Just because the majority of the Domme's you're aware of don't get sexual with thier pets doesn't mean that they are, in fact, the majority of Dommes.

The majority of Dommes that -I- know have sex with their pets...and yet, you don't hear me generalize and say that's what the majority of Dommes do.  There's really no way of knowing...I'd say it likely differs from region to region...age group to age group...etch.

Also, if a Domme doesn't want to have sex, then the submissive shouldn't get into the relationship.  Problem solved.  BDSM isn't just about sex, and it doesn't even have to include one ounce of sex for it to work properly.  There are many wonderful, strong relationships that aren't based entirely around sex.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 4:59:04 PM   
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Okay, DiurnalVampire, you have a real treasure here. Shawn, you rock.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 5:02:01 PM   
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An excerpt from bottomboys profile:
You have the choice to choose what type of play and how it will be done, not me. This may seem that I am too easy or I can't think for my self but the main purpose is using me and taking advantage over me in what ever way suits you.

Fine words, belied by his comments, or should I say rants, on domination and Dommes.

And yet again, bottomboy shows exactly why he will never find anyone.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 5:15:46 PM   
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One stance domme's will complain about male subs thinking with their dicks and the next stance, they will say that they will not have a problem with supplying an orgasm. It seems to me that the stance changes when the complaint or conversation demands it. As long as what ever the stance is, it makes them in the clear.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 5:29:37 PM   
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in my past D/s relationship started out as a vanilla one but over time it became a D/s. my mistress only liked bigger cocks, so i was to wear a sleave over myself and please her orally.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 5:31:43 PM   
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But the problem with your theory is that those who think with the little head aren't going to be given orgasm because when someone is thinking with their little head, they are rude, demanding, selfish, and entirely focused on that and only that.  We give our boy(s) orgasm (typically through sex ... I love sex ... mmmm...) because they behave themselves and we enjoy it - not because they expect it.  Huge difference. 

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 5:38:52 PM   
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Just look at all of the fun I missed while I went off to work today!
 
I'm starting with this, because it was one of the most relevant questions asked:

quote:

ORIGINAL: velvetears

This is my first post in ask a Mistress section.  After reading this thread i have a question - for those who don't have sex with their male subs, do they allow them to find sex elsewhere or are the subs expected to remain faithful.  i suppose the dynamics would differ depending on the people involved - just curious. 


In My case, this is where I'm going to stand out a bit.  It might be too much information for certain folks, but I'm a firm believer that an honest question deserves and honest answer.  (If you don't want the graphic details, skip the post.)
 
Let Me start with something so everyone understands My position.  In My prior post on this subject, I was specifically defining sex as vaginal intercourse.  Under this definition, My boy is not permitted to have sex with Me.  However, he is at times used for sexual service.  This did not begin until he was collared by Me.  In fact, before that, he had never even seen Me naked.  It wasn't until the night of his collaring that he was ever permitted to touch Me sexually in anyway.  Since his collaring, he has been permitted to please Me manually, orally, and he's been used in strap on play.  My submissive enjoys pleasing Me in these ways, even though he is not always granted release.
 
At this point, you might be wondering why I'm "getting Mine", but he isn't getting his.  The answer for this is that sexual intercourse is one of his few hard limits.  This was an arrangement that was understood before I collared him.  Do I wish sometimes that he didn't have that particular limit?  Of course I do.  Still, the limit is his, and I respect it. 
 
 

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 5:51:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

quote:

ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

The dommes don't care about that, its all about what they want and this is somehow supposed to remain a healthy relationship. A normal person wouldn't stay in one if they were not satisfied.

Not to mention, is a human being normal if they have no feelings for sex? unless they have a bad sex drive.


Actually, I have found the opposite to be true.  A large majority of the male subs I have talked to prefer long-term complete chastity.  I am more likely to impose chastity for a short time and actually want to have sex with them.  There have been plenty that have had no interest in me as such.

Assuming all dommes don't care or that you speak for all subs is just ridiculous. As has been suggested here a couple of times now, instead of wasting time posting about how bitter you are, go put some work into finding someone that fits your needs and educate yourself on the fact that we are all different and not all women are ANY one thing and not all Dommes are ANY one thing and not all subs are ANY one thing.  I am doubtful this thread will make you more appealing to those you talk to however.



This thread is about the subs who want sex, and the dommes that wont do it. It's not about the subs who want to be in chastity and or never get it. The problem is that the majority of dommes won't put out but they will be more easy on giving oral to another woman if they are bi. However, most expect to get everything they want out of male subs and then still think they shouldn't give a male what he wants the most, an orgasm. To say that most dommes will supply sex is ridiculous regarding to how many dommes complain about that factor.


Wow you got all that meaning from a one-liner from dogboy?  Have you actually read his posts?  It's really not safe to assume he means any such thing.  I don't know who "most" is.  I can guarantee you from reading thousands of posts here that most of these women don't enter into relationships with men that don't have the same basic expectations they do.  I never said most dommes will supply sex.  I do.  I wouldn't to you because your whining, negative, narcisstic attitude is annoying.  Now, how about you quit whining and go find one that suits you?

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 5:51:10 PM   
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i think Dommes having sex with their submissives should be mandatory, along with bringing us breakfast in bed and keeping the fridge full of beer !!!!!!!

Hmm me mail box is still empty

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 6:00:08 PM   
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For you, politesub, I might do that, because you my friend are a delight.

(edited to add: you should remember you actually asked me to cook breakfast for you when you try to eat it though....hahaha)

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 6:00:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Smith117

quote:

ORIGINAL: DianeB269

I can have sex anytime I want so, why would I wanna have sex with a sub/slave?


Diane


This statement right here pretty much sums up what I've seen on most sites. I've very dominant, but I browse profiles of any side when I'm bored, just to make myself laugh.

One thing I have noticed, is that typically it can be explained this way. (note all you lovely flamers I said "typically")

"Typically," male doms are mostly about sex and passion and controlling their female slaves' bodies. (Hearts and minds not withstanding of coruse)

"Typically," female dommes are mostly about controlling their slaves' wallets.

No, I don't have figures to back me up, nor am I saying either of those statements is 100% true in every case. However, I can't count the number of 'female doms' I have seen whose profiles say "you will not get sex, you are worthless, you will tribute me at every turn and treat me like a princess."

So.....the woman expects to be treated like a princess...and showered with money or whatever....yet she is unwilling to satisfy a most basic male need? Yeah right. It's medical fact that men need to cum in order to....shall we say "keep the pipes working." Women are built such that they can, should they choose, never ever orgasm and their bits and pieces will be no worse for wear. Men on the other hand have two options....take care of your "needs" or have your body do it for you while you sleep. Personally, I'd rather not wake up all sticky.

Give me an f-ing break. These kinds of 'dommes' are bigger whores than the women who go to clubs without their wallets, knowing full-well that men will buy them everything and they have the almighty power of saying "no" even after the men have showered them with attention all night.

Now certainly I am not saying that women should give it up to any man who buys them a drink. But there are MANY women who will, as I said, go to clubs without their money expecting to drink for free all night. If you aren't interested in the guy, don't let him buy you drinks and think he's getting somewhere. That's what the 'juicy girls' in Korea do. They sit with the GI's all night, drinking $20 drinks and just 'talking' and then the guys get nowhere but flat broke.

I have, in my life, frequently heard women complaining that they don't make as much as a man would in their job. Well, here's the fact, if men have to pay for everything, they should make more.

I can tell I'm winding up to a full-blown rant about women and their antics, so I'll cut this short. For now anyway.

Back to the topic at hand, the simplest answer to why a mistress would be so mean is because she's not interested in your dick, only your wallet. Move on.




I hope you're not talking about me. You do not know anything about me...
I DO NOT make any of my subs pay or buy anything for me.They offer and I say no.
The only things I will make a sub pay for is the toys (strapons) I will using on them.

Diane

< Message edited by DianeB269 -- 11/30/2007 6:08:22 PM >

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 6:12:41 PM   
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For you, politesub, I might do that, because you my friend are a delight.

(edited to add: you should remember you actually asked me to cook breakfast for you when you try to eat it though....hahaha)


Laurell, if you fulfilled my first request eating raw eggs would be a small price to pay..

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 6:27:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

At this point, you might be wondering why I'm "getting Mine", but he isn't getting his. The answer for this is that sexual intercourse is one of his few hard limits. This was an arrangement that was understood before I collared him. Do I wish sometimes that he didn't have that particular limit? Of course I do. Still, the limit is his, and I respect it.




It's also a fact that it does not require intercourse for a man to orgasm or ejaculate.

One of Fox's hard limits is also intercourse because he 100% does not want offspring and he is smart enough to know that if you play the game, even when you rig everything in your favor, things will still not go your way at some point. He (and I and Tom too for that matter) all think that even a minor risk is too great a risk when it comes to creating a human life.

Does Fox orgasm? Yes! Very rarely with me but that is his preference actually because he's more fetish inclined and loves to focus on me when it comes to sex.

Every man is different as is every woman in terms of sex. We do a grave disservice to humanity when we repeat stereotypes about the sexes. It's especially harmful in my opinion when the stereotypes are promoted by the members of a group about themselves.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 6:32:23 PM   
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DianeB269
quote:

ORIGINAL: DianeB269

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117

quote:

ORIGINAL: DianeB269

I can have sex anytime I want so, why would I wanna have sex with a sub/slave?


Diane


This statement right here pretty much sums up what I've seen on most sites. I've very dominant, but I browse profiles of any side when I'm bored, just to make myself laugh.

One thing I have noticed, is that typically it can be explained this way. (note all you lovely flamers I said "typically")

"Typically," male doms are mostly about sex and passion and controlling their female slaves' bodies. (Hearts and minds not withstanding of coruse)

"Typically," female dommes are mostly about controlling their slaves' wallets.

No, I don't have figures to back me up, nor am I saying either of those statements is 100% true in every case. However, I can't count the number of 'female doms' I have seen whose profiles say "you will not get sex, you are worthless, you will tribute me at every turn and treat me like a princess."

So.....the woman expects to be treated like a princess...and showered with money or whatever....yet she is unwilling to satisfy a most basic male need? Yeah right. It's medical fact that men need to cum in order to....shall we say "keep the pipes working." Women are built such that they can, should they choose, never ever orgasm and their bits and pieces will be no worse for wear. Men on the other hand have two options....take care of your "needs" or have your body do it for you while you sleep. Personally, I'd rather not wake up all sticky.

Give me an f-ing break. These kinds of 'dommes' are bigger whores than the women who go to clubs without their wallets, knowing full-well that men will buy them everything and they have the almighty power of saying "no" even after the men have showered them with attention all night.

Now certainly I am not saying that women should give it up to any man who buys them a drink. But there are MANY women who will, as I said, go to clubs without their money expecting to drink for free all night. If you aren't interested in the guy, don't let him buy you drinks and think he's getting somewhere. That's what the 'juicy girls' in Korea do. They sit with the GI's all night, drinking $20 drinks and just 'talking' and then the guys get nowhere but flat broke.

I have, in my life, frequently heard women complaining that they don't make as much as a man would in their job. Well, here's the fact, if men have to pay for everything, they should make more.

I can tell I'm winding up to a full-blown rant about women and their antics, so I'll cut this short. For now anyway.

Back to the topic at hand, the simplest answer to why a mistress would be so mean is because she's not interested in your dick, only your wallet. Move on.




I hope you're not talking about me. You do not know anything about me...
I DO NOT make any of my subs pay or buy anything for me.They offer and I say no.
The only things I will make a sub pay for is the toys (strapons) I will using on them.

Diane


Well, it wasn't directed specifically at you, no. Your profile doesn't indicate, like many others do, that you want money. I simply used your comment to highlight something I find reprehensible.

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RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex - 11/30/2007 6:34:33 PM   
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OK, thanks....I wasn't sure.


Diane

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