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laurell3 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 7:21:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: masterlink65

so a sub is just to walk out if something doesnt go the way a sub planned? over a drink?

so does this mean if the dom or master doesnt flush the toilet properly, the sub will just walk out? maybe i bought the post instead if the daily news, the sub should walk out without a word to its dom. any self respecting sub should be able to speak for itself in time of need. dont just turn your back. i wouldnt see that as an act of submission.

doesnt sound like she was doing very much submitting to this dom of hers, other than her own selfishness of feeling the dom owed her for her making dinner. wrong for a sub or slave to expect anything owed other than its needs met, and a drink at the bar isnt a need, its a want. if i take my slave to a bar, it is my choice if slave has a drink, or wether slave stands in the corner.

the sub is worthy of conversation, yes.... but to just walk away like that? would you really expect a dom to go wow, what an obedient sub,, after all,,,,, she did get me the drink i wanted.?!?

so its BS when i write, and opinion when you write. ?!.



I'm not sure why I'm even attempting to discuss this with you as you seem to have your head in this fantasy land that says roles make people not people.  Again, regardless of roles, everyone is "worthy" of communication.  Ending a relationship is not an act of submission, dominance or otherwise.  She's not asking you for comments on her submissiveness and honestly that's all you ever say.   

I agree, from the facts presented, she may have acted prematurely by walking out and not communciating to him.  However, it has nothing to do with whether she is a good submissive or not as she stated quite clearly she was ending the relationship at that point and they were only play partners.  When you start considering that "worthiness" has nothing to do with relating to people, you might actually understand what I am saying.



OsideGirl -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 7:23:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

Opinions ????


He's cheap.

And selfish?



masterlink65 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 7:25:41 PM)

this was not a prom date. this was a building dom/sub relationship

is this collarme or eharmony?



laurell3 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 7:34:28 PM)

And?  Those facts would address what I said about your comments HOW?



bandit25 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 7:40:25 PM)

Well, the whole "it" comment you keep making is pretty illustrative of what you think.  She's isn't an it, she isn't a slave, she isn't even his sub...at least the way I read the post.  While you are correct for your relationship, you aren't correct for all relationships.

The way I read it, he's cheap.  I don't know that she was "expecting" anything, but if he weren't going to pay, then IMO, he should have made that clear up front.



Jeffff -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 7:49:39 PM)

After reading many posts.......and carefull thought.........I have come to the conclusion.........that Mlink...is insane
I can see no other response to the nonsense he spews.

Jeff
(not a licensed therapist)



AquaticSub -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 7:52:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: masterlink65

this was not a prom date. this was a building dom/sub relationship

is this collarme or eharmony?



Collarme.

Frankly, if the relationship is just building and not offical I don't see why she can't do whatever she pleases. Either way, she ended it. Once it's ended, she can definately do whatever she pleases.



laurell3 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 7:55:01 PM)

And?  Those facts would address what I said about your comments HOW?  Because it's not a prom date she doesn't deserve communication and respect because she's a sub???? How again does that work?

gah sorry double-posted, meant to edit.



MzMia -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 7:56:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

Opinions ????


He's cheap.



Ahh don't call him cheap, call him financially challenged! [;)]



masterlink65 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 8:01:31 PM)

what i did actually was read the original post, then  i went to kails profile. in her profile she states she is a submissive female, and i also look to see the persons likes and dislikes. she says she loves obedience training. and she likes humiliation. so her dom humiliates her and she gets upset. it also says she is seeking a dominant man. i see more selfishness on her behalf than i do seeing her being submissive. she also says she loves collars. i guess i just expect more from a person who comes to me presenting themselves as a sub, wanting to be collared. if she does not like humiliation and collars and obedience they should not be listed

she asked for peoples opinions, and i spoke mine.



masterlink65 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 8:04:49 PM)

i use the word "it", because i, unlike others on here who most times use her, as referrence to sub or slave. this is an all mlae household here, just trying to be PC.



laurell3 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 8:06:34 PM)

and the things listed on her profile would make her unworthy of communication or not a good submissive for chosing to end a relationship when she said it was just a play partner HOW again? 



laurell3 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 8:07:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterlink65

i use the word "it", because i, unlike others on here who most times use her, as referrence to sub or slave. this is an all mlae household here, just trying to be PC.


In what fantasy realm is referring to people as "it" PC?



bandit25 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 8:12:19 PM)

It is most certainly NOT pc.  If you don't want to use "her", you can always do the s/he thing or the him/her thing.  It is an inanimate object, not a person.



masterlink65 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 8:12:41 PM)

. I did not have a choice about going to a pub, i give full control over to the Dom. this is also what she said. so what she did was say two oposite things in her post.

what i see as making her unworthy of conversation is........... she was srong in leaving without saying anything. she was wrong in assuming her dom owed her anything. she didnt have the common courtesy to say anything, she just left, and then talked to him later. all i said was be fotunate he felt she was worthy of an answer. i thought that was giving her the benefit of the doubt i thought.

if i chose to end a relationship i would say so to the person, not try to do it later after the situation had already been figured out that i was gone.

he was cheap, she was rude



masterlink65 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 8:14:12 PM)

and using these terms is really that much less dehumanising, himthing ,herthing. come on now



Jeffff -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 8:14:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterlink65

i use the word "it", because i, unlike others on here who most times use her, as referrence to sub or slave. this is an all mlae household here, just trying to be PC.


In what fantasy realm is referring to people as "it" PC?


Laurell?.......this is so onesided.......perhaps if you tied half your brain behind you back?

Jeff



kingbeef31 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 8:17:18 PM)

Can I do the tying?  I used to be a girl scout...............oops, I mean a boy scout.



masterlink65 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 8:17:21 PM)

this isnt a costume party. or is it. i didnt wear the right clothes



laurell3 -> RE: Going dutch (12/4/2007 8:19:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterlink65

. I did not have a choice about going to a pub, i give full control over to the Dom. this is also what she said. so what she did was say two oposite things in her post.

what i see as making her unworthy of conversation is........... she was srong in leaving without saying anything. she was wrong in assuming her dom owed her anything. she didnt have the common courtesy to say anything, she just left, and then talked to him later. all i said was be fotunate he felt she was worthy of an answer. i thought that was giving her the benefit of the doubt i thought.

if i chose to end a relationship i would say so to the person, not try to do it later after the situation had already been figured out that i was gone.

he was cheap, she was rude



Assuming that is true, that has something to do with her submission or lack therof HOW?  Whether you like it or not, yes, even godly Doms owe their partners understanding and communication and respect.  However, if you really want to find someone that doesn't want that, go right ahead.  To assume the OP wanting it (which clearly she does) makes her a bad sub or unworthy is really silly.



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