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pahunkboy -> 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 6:55:09 AM)

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/12/01/yir.mystery.plane.cnn



Real0ne -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 7:55:25 AM)



yup the E4 doomsday bird.  like everything else on that day one remote was coincidentally capable of controlling 4 different planes.

Many people identified that plane flying just above treetop level and hauling ass headed right for the pentagon on a parralell pathb to the "supposed" flight 77 that was "supposed" to have crashed in to the building.

Of course there are peopl who acually believe the popular mechanics editor when he says the scrap metal sort of just vaporized into thin air!  yeh.... ahuh....   since planes all leave scrap metal, no metal no 757.

That is the edited version of cnn video btw where they took the time out.  I have the original in which shows that time to be within seconds of the pentagon hit.   like kennedy the best conspiracy is the one right in front of our eyes in the open and we are to stoopid to figure it out until its a classic 50 years later LOL






charmdpetKeira -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 9:34:20 AM)

~fr
Why is it not important to know the purpose and point of origin, of a “mystery plane”, flying over our countries capital, on, of all days, the day we are being told; four of our own planes were hijacked and flown into three of our buildings?
 
Which part of that is irrelevant?
 
k



luckydog1 -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 10:40:03 AM)

Actually pop mechanincs says that inertia would have made of most of the derbis continue forward into the building, as it chrashed through 3 rings of the building and into the 4th.  And it shows several pieces of plane derbis on the ground outside the building.  But whats another lie from real.  He has some sort of need to lie about what Pop Mechanics says, then argue against that. 



Real0ne -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 11:49:42 AM)

yeh 1/2 a dumpster full LMAO

we ALL know that a 757 scrapped fits into a dumpster dont we lucky?  LMAO

oops wait, let me rephrase that....  Since I have picked up a few wrecks I KNOW that a 757 scrapped is a 20ft high by 30 ft around pile for those like you who obviously do not know. 

Until you can show cite or otherwise crap something that resembles close to 75 tons of scrap metal consider yourself the liar.  All that is in the pics is maybe 12ton tops.


Wreckage photo evidence that is.  No photos = no wreckage, no bullshit excuses.   I anxiously await your truth.



joanus -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 12:06:25 PM)

Maybe the impact forces where so great that the Plane was ripped into pieces smaller that a single unit? With enough time and a blow torch and you could fit a 757 into match boxes.



charmdpetKeira -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 1:55:56 PM)

I can only think of two reasons for secrecy and lying; either the person believes they are protecting the other person or they are protecting themselves, unless you believe this could just be a cover up for one extremely large surprise party.
Personally, I would prefer not to have someone trying to protect me by covering up the truth. It makes that whole “informed consent” thing rather difficult; perhaps I have misunderstood the concept.

k



Rule -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 2:42:13 PM)

I have investigated the four supposedly hijacked planes thoroughly. My conclusion was and is that two of them (11 and 77) never existed and that none of them ever crashed.



Real0ne -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 4:04:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule

I have investigated the four supposedly hijacked planes thoroughly. My conclusion was and is that two of them (11 and 77) never existed and that none of them ever crashed.



Rule here is an eye witness for you:

WTC Witness - No Second Plane, It Was a Bomb


Here is another one

I love the fruedian slip on this one.
Live 911 WTC Shots With No Plane











luckydog1 -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 4:15:59 PM)

Anyone interested can take note that Real asserted there was no plane derbis, and now he says there is not enough....all the while maintianing he was right the entire time.  Just nonsense, believed by fools..



subrob1967 -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 4:21:13 PM)

Here we go again...Someone passed out the spiked eggnog too damn early.



Rule -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 4:27:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
WTC Witness - No Second Plane, It Was a Bomb

Very interesting. He said that he saw everything and that he did not see any second plane. Exactly as I expected.



Real0ne -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 5:45:58 PM)



Start thr party without me?  LOL

Oh btw i am still waiting for your references from the claims you last made on 911.  Did you ever put them up for me to review?





Real0ne -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 5:51:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
WTC Witness - No Second Plane, It Was a Bomb

Very interesting. He said that he saw everything and that he did not see any second plane. Exactly as I expected.



Did you notice when that guy said no plane it was a bomb, a bomb not a plane how fast he went on to the next person?


Yeh and check this out... 

You can see a helecopter by tower 1 when it blew and no image that looks like a plane.

Then on tower 2 the "clear" private video has again a helecopter but the blurry CNN video does not!!  Imagine that.


1)
Here is a private video of wtc 2 strike.  (take note how nice and clear they are compare to the edited and duped media vids) and take note of the hel;icopter.  Remember many people said it was a helicopter not a plane?

1)
Here is CNN on the other side:  CNN 9/11 Fake Video
CNN EXCLUSIVE WTC CRASH 1 AND 2
Note the helicopter upper left on tower 1 and none on tower 2!

2)
Then there is one of my all time favorites THE INVINCIBLE AIRPLANE goes right through WTC 2!!!! LMAO

Still Shot of the Invincible plane

3)
Oops taint no hole in wtc 2

Bush admits Iraq has no connection with 9/11

Unlike clinton bush cant tell a lie to save his ass LOL


I guess we were not supposed to see the other side of wtc 2...  In fact now that you know that you can see how they hide everything with their banners. and talk about after they zoom out etc etc etc...


My favorite is the plane flying right through the tower and out theother side only to leave no hole.  What funny is and I am sure you remember that they showed a map of where they found plane debris from flt 175, y et there were no holes in the building!  LOL

If it wasnt so horrific it would be a comedy show!



luckydog1 -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 5:54:00 PM)

Anyone want to bet that Real has absolutly no sourcing for his claim that all the plane derbis from the Pentagon could fit in 1/2 a dumpster?



Real0ne -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 6:02:57 PM)


Anyone wanna bet lucky cant come up with anywhere near 75 tons of wreckage?  LOL

Hey lucky you got the pics I will back off and concede, you aint got no pics you aint got no case. Simple as that.





carlie310 -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 6:43:06 PM)

My father-in-law watched the first plane fly over Manhattan as he was walking from the subway to work and saw it hit.  I watched the second plane hit on the live shot from ABC, and heard Charlie Gibson and Dianne Sawyer's shock. (I think he's related to the Charles Gibson who now anchors the ABC evening news.)  I have a friend who, along with her husband, worked in the Pentagon, and was there when the plane hit.  She and her husband met in the hallway in front of the daycare (which has since been moved off-site) to make sure their 13 month old daughter was safe. Another friend who watched from the highway as a commercial jet hit the Pentagon. 

I know personally too many eyewitnesses to things that would have to be false for most of the conspiracies to be real.  That would include any of the "it wasn't really a plane" theories.  I am not out to convince someone; I don't have pictures.  In fact, if this were a fabrication there would be much more created 'evidence' to support it.  But having heard those first hand accounts, I abhor the theories and the self-delusion. 



Real0ne -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 7:15:55 PM)

I wont argue that there were not planes that were in the area.   For some reason there is a huge mixture of accounts from the people that were ver near the towers.  I have a video of a kid where some of the cladding from the tower missed him by 20 feet as he was filming it.

From the research i have done people claim a helecopter, others a bomb, and yet others claim planes.

Now I do have a video of a plane doing a fly by the towers at the same time they were hit, but i disagree with to much of the guys analysis in other areas and one i put that up i will wear everything in the video even that which i do not agree.

I see someone was crying to the mods so this ended up in the free speech zone.

Wouldnt it be nice if the government told us the truth and didnt try to cover everything up and quickly haul out the evidence and get it melted down, then block attempts to investigate further etc etc....  It took 3 years to get the firemans tapes and one is missing.

If our government was more honest I bet ya that more people would believe them and we probably wouldne even have to have this coversation, but i know its a fantasy world to think that way.


then of course the most compelling is the footer link:

WTC 2 highlighted, showing bombs blowing it all to hell on the top floors before and during the demolition

Sort of hard to refute white flashes and big puffs of dust, did your uncle hang around lonng enough to see that too? 

I will go on record saying that there is a hi possibility that somethign hit those towers, however if it was what they say it was then why re the majority of media tapes manipulated or out right faked?

The BBC and CNN both announced the wtc 7 as having been demolished 15 - 20 minutes before it fell.

They cordoned off the area and told people to get out becuase its coming down.  Its all on tape and it takes many hours to rig a building to be demolished, not a few short minutes








Real0ne -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 8:22:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Anyone want to bet that Real has absolutly no sourcing for his claim that all the plane derbis from the Pentagon could fit in 1/2 a dumpster?




Lucky, I am not going to ask you a thousand times for your evidence so thats once that you had the chance and failed to produce.  

Its pretty damn hard to produce scrap for a plane that does not exist isnt it.

Burden of proof is on you man, YOU say its a 757 and I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU so produce the scrap.  (a 20foot high x 30foot round pile)

Its YOUR SOURCES that count here.

If you cannot back up your claim then you are a liar.

no 75 tons of scrap = no 757






luckydog1 -> RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown (12/4/2007 9:14:04 PM)

So you are not going to provide any backing to your claim, figures.  You are simply lying again.  As I already said, the derbis went inside the building, mixing with the brick, mortar ect.  You are the one making a claim as to a paticular amount of plane derbis.  Actually you are making two contradictory claims....zero and 1/2 dumpster.  Both are completely made up by you.  Lies.  As usuall you can easily refute my accusation by providing some proof of your claims.  As ususal, you can't.  Simply more blather and lies on your part.  I find it really funny that you are scared to provide any evidence to me....



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