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Dom4UA -> Fisting (8/16/2005 12:35:37 AM)

Is fisting safe?




JohnWarren -> RE: Fisting (8/16/2005 5:19:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dom4UA

Is fisting safe?


No, but neither is going to the bathroom. I think what you need to ask is "how can it be made as safe as possible" and "what are the risks?" For that I recommend three books.

Hand in the Bush from Greenery Press (www.greenerypress.com) by Tristan Taormino. It covers vaginal fisting

Tristan also wrote The Art of Anal Fisting.

Another excellent anal fisting book is Trust by Bert Herrman.

I don't have publishers for either of these.




anopheles -> RE: Fisting (8/16/2005 3:45:48 PM)

Fisting can be risky, but there are certain precautions that can be taken to make it safe.

1. Cleanliness. The hands have to be clean, clean, clean. Fingernails should be closely cut and cleaned. Otherwise, using a latex glove is often a good idea. It actually makes it easier, because it lessens the chance of irritating those sensitive areas.

2. Lube, lube and more lube. I like olive oil personally, because it's natural, long lasting, and neutral in taste, however, most use a water-based lube, which probably works just as well. Remember, that there is NEVER too much lube if you're fisting someone. Stay away from anything petroleum based, especially if you plan on using a condom afterwards to have sex.

3. Watch for the signs of extreme discomfort. You should be well enough in tune with the person to know if they are being unduly hurt. A lot like the idea of fisting because of the challenge, so they will take a lot of pain and discomfort to accomplish it, but make sure that you don't go too far, because you could injure someone, even without their knowledge.


Good luck, be safe




sweetpettjenny -> RE: Fisting (8/16/2005 3:56:18 PM)

i actually needed surgery ( i developed a water filled cyst on my cervix ) from fisting. your partner needs to be cautious and know what He / She is doing.




batty24546 -> RE: Fisting (8/17/2005 11:02:30 AM)

I get that little bit of blood after sex, but we always thought that it was because she was scratching me with her finger nails.




tade -> RE: Fisting (8/17/2005 11:24:34 AM)

We always say if it hurts, we're not doing it right. It took my wife a few months to slowly get up to my whole hand. Our little pet took it in a weekend. Depends on the woman, but pain (not the good kind of pain) should not be a part of it. Done right it is almost a spiritual experience. Done wrong and you may never want to try it again. If you can only take 3 fingers then explore that. Have fun with that and slowly work up to four and so on. Every woman I have ever fisted has enjoyed different aspects of it. SOme like the full feeling, some the moment just as you go in and out. My wife loves the stretching she feels but shortly after is tight around my cock, so we're not too worried about any damage. Women's bodies are wonderful in that department.

Fisting (we hate that term...seems so violent) like any other form of sex is a journey, not a destination. At least that's our take on things.

Between now and then,
Tade and Bara




Dom4UA -> RE: Fisting (8/18/2005 11:36:46 AM)

Thanks for the information!I realize I need to research this more!!




IronBear -> RE: Fisting (8/20/2005 4:01:46 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dom4UA

Thanks for the information!I realize I need to research this more!!


I have a couple of good articals on Fisting in my collection of "instructional" files on various sex acts. If you like to message me with a working email address, I'd be happy to send you copies




annapolisfemme -> RE: Fisting (9/28/2005 9:59:48 PM)

i can't comment on the safety issue other than to say that i have not experienced any problems.

Fisting is something i only experienced this year for the first time. Because i have a preference for tall men with big hands, it just never seemed like a very good idea to me!

However, my Dom started me with a woman whose hand was quite small, eventually working up to His hand. This only took about 4 'sessions' on different days; because it was done a bit gradually, i never experienced any discomfort.

The time that His hand was able to penetrate fully He did not push, but held His hand still, allowing me to push on Him; i moved on His hand until i orgasmed - during the orgasm i pushed so hard, pretty much unconciously, that His entire hand went right in......and of course i enjoyed many more orgasms! The feeling was wonderful - such an incredible fullness!!




plantlady64 -> RE: Fisting (9/29/2005 8:47:21 AM)

Hello There,
I have only been fisted a few times by my Master. He has huge hands. When he gets to his knuckles he aslso just sits still and lets me be the one to force his hand in fully. It stings like fire for about a minute. Once the sting starts to die down and I stretch out in there it's a very hot & sexy thing for me.
In a fisting presentation I went to the advice I gleaned was:
1-Always wear gloves that fit your hand well
2-lube, lube and more lube and once in for a little bit keep adding lube often. We usually put down a towel as it's everywhere when we are done
3-trim your nails so they don't scratch her or tear the gloves
4-don't wear any rings they may come off and get lost in there.
and last but not least
5- don't set your goal at getting your whole hand in, but rather on the sensations you two share trying. The instructor said she'd been trying to be fisted for 8 years and due to a small pelvis and no kids yet she couldn't do it, but has fun trying often.

Hope this helps,
sub suzanne




dommemagnet -> RE: Fisting (9/29/2005 9:10:16 AM)

No experience with it personally but as many births don't cause damage when the new bdsmer is born, I would think when done cautiously with cleanliness, there shouldn't be any lasting damage.

Is it dangerous? Can you catch hepatitis off the dirty lettuce on your sandwich at lunch today?




allalone47 -> RE: Fisting (11/24/2005 8:05:37 PM)

I read all of the responses and have not seen one more varry important one. Take your time. If you are in a hurry and try to do it fast you will get hurt. Adn it doesn't mater what gloves you wre or no rings, or as much loob that there is in the world. if you do it fast you wil hurt the one getting fisted.




windchymes -> RE: Fisting (11/27/2005 11:36:45 AM)


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Can you catch hepatitis off the dirty lettuce on your sandwich at lunch today?


If the person handling the lettuce was infected with hepatitis and didn't wash their hands properly after using the rest room, or was lax in hygiene in general, yes.


chymes




Wolf1020 -> RE: Fisting (11/27/2005 12:55:51 PM)

Fisting is safe if you work up slowly. Look at it this way. Something that weighs upwards of ten pounds can fit down it....my hand aint that big if I take my time I can sure as hell get it up there. Its about time time time and slowly working it you can't don't just jab your fist up there. Hell I actually know a woman that can take two fists from another woman, not sure about larger hands from a man though. Either way just take it slow and work it easily and all should be well. Just remember all bodies a different. Even if she can be birth I have never heard is described as a pleasurable feeling experience. Just like some women can't take a guy hung like a horse without it being painful some women can't take being fisted without it being painful as well.

Though I cannot stress enough be extremely vigilant when fisting just in case. My friend and her husband were playing one night and he was fisting her. Not uncommon they did it often. On this particular night for some reason she developed a tear in the middle of her being fisted, genitals swell with blood when aroused so needless to say that's a bad time for a tear to happen. No sign's of discomfort no pain, no nothing out of the ordinary. She needed an ambulance and a trip to the hospital and by the time the bleeding was stopped she had damn near bled to death. When he stopped she was so far into space she couldn't even understand why he stopped (she hadn't felt the tear apparently) and begged him to start again until she saw all the blood, processed it, and snapped out of it. Why did it happen? No one knows, they were together close to five years at that point and he had fisted her many times. Just happened in that one session that for whatever reason she tore. Accident's happen even for the safest players and sometimes with no warning that something is about to happen.

So is it safe? Yes, just as safe as butt plugs floggers and canes or anything else that has the potential to injure. Just be extremely vigilant and don't always rely on the sub to tell you if something is wrong. Personally that last bit of advice goes for any play at all no mater how often it has been done with no problems.




Wolf1020 -> RE: Fisting (11/27/2005 12:59:06 PM)

Just an added note that if you have very ruff hands latex glaves are a good idea. Also a good idea in general, I've never personally fisted a girl but I hear it makes it easier, someone who has fisted with and without a latex glove feel free to correct me on that point though.




RiotGirl -> RE: Fisting (11/28/2005 3:07:06 PM)

from what i heard fisting is safe




Slaveless1 -> RE: Fisting (12/3/2005 5:46:56 PM)

as long as you do it slow and build towards the whole hand is fine. If you are not comfortable with it then have it stopped. Safety is number one




girl4you2 -> RE: Fisting (12/3/2005 6:21:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dommemagnet

No experience with it personally but as many births don't cause damage when the new bdsmer is born,
sometimes there are tears, which episiotomies are supposed to help prevent in some births. additionally, some are born by cesearean section due to various anatomical variations. just some thoughts.
quote:

I would think when done cautiously with cleanliness, there shouldn't be any lasting damage.

Is it dangerous? Can you catch hepatitis off the dirty lettuce on your sandwich at lunch today?
the other two things were mentioned in other posts before mine.

i wish you well.




ro7008 -> RE: Fisting (12/8/2005 12:52:50 PM)

My Mistress fists my ass on a regular basis. On several occasions she has gotten two hands in my ass. She starts slowly using tons of lube and works her way in. Sometimes it takes her almost an hour to accomplish this but on more than one occasion she had worked it in all the way to her elbow. GO SLOW and use LOT'S OF LUBE. She always makes me take four or five enemas before she fists me.




truesub4u -> RE: Fisting (12/10/2005 9:51:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ro7008

My Mistress fists my ass on a regular basis. On several occasions she has gotten two hands in my ass. She starts slowly using tons of lube and works her way in. Sometimes it takes her almost an hour to accomplish this but on more than one occasion she had worked it in all the way to her elbow. GO SLOW and use LOT'S OF LUBE. She always makes me take four or five enemas before she fists me.



Ok, I've read this thread on fisting and yours is the first I have seen refer to ANAL FISTING.

I've met someone else on line that has mentioned this to me directly. And after many discussion on this manner, he has me craving this instead of fearing.

My question to you and others then is this. How safe is this compared to vaginal.

I have been vaginally fisted a few times. (few being a lie, more like plenty). But never anally. I mean, anal sex still hurts no matter how many times i've had it. No matter how much lube of any kind used. Once into it though, there's no problems. Al I know is I love it... and want more and more. But once I am allowed to have a orgasm (not just cumm). I can't handle it no more and need them out of me. I don't know if i'm feeling pain or pleasure to the point of what i don't know. I just know I can't handle them in me after that.

I would really like more information on this form of play if anyone can help me. Before I allow my cravings to over ride my ability to think straight and safe.




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