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LadyJeelys -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 4:37:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

So, my question is this, "Men, do you ever fantasize about":
 



My slave says he does fantasize about being raped by me.
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And, "Women, do you ever fantasize about":

1. raping a man?   If so, how violent is the rape?  Does he like it or does it matter?


No, actually, it kind of creeps me out. But then I suspose that's because I enjoy enforcing my will and not allow the guy that option of thinking it was was because I forced his body.



sambamanslilgirl -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 4:49:25 AM)

my former was heavily into the rape fantasy. we did try it with me a couple of times and nothing "bad" ie emotional reaction happened afterwards.  however the last time we tried the fantasy again, i believe brought back memories of what happened during my senior prom.  though i wasn't raped, my prom date attempted until i kick him so hard that i bruised his manhood for weeks.  while my former was trying to rape, i actually fought back ...almost hurting him real good.  after that session we never tried it again.



darkpassenger434 -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 4:54:38 AM)

Yes, I often have rape/coercion fantasies about women. Not so much being raped myself. I would agree that there would need to be a CRYSTAL CLEAR understanding that it was conscensual. Even within the fantasy itself I like it if there are "little things" that indicate that the recipient desires it on a deep level.
-R



SilentButSexy -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 6:03:49 AM)

I have fantisized about being raped in a scene.. but i have not had the pleasure... i do hope one day that whenever i do become owned, that i will have the courage to ask my master for something like that.



Missokyst -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 6:09:05 AM)

I enjoy forced play.   A lot of what we did involved taking me beyond resistance.  I think it works because even though I am extremely sexual I am also somewhat prudish, reserved and modest.  Early on in our relationship we discussed rape, force,  my potential reactions to it and no matter how we tried to turn it, it was always hot for both of us.  He was not the first man I have done this with and with luck he probably wont be the last. 
Some of our play involved kidnapping senarios where I might be bound and gagged in his van for a few hours while he did what he wished to me.  Sometimes it was simply knowing that even when I was angry with him, there was never a "no" to a sexual solution.  Inevidibly that would calm me down.
And that is weird, since as a child I was raped and molested by both males and females before the age of 13.
I can't imagine my trying to rape him, or anyone.
No part of me imagines doing a woman even though I have occasionally topped them, I could never get passed the squick factor to make it a sexual game.
Kyst



mistoferin -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 6:19:31 AM)

Having experienced the real thing there is no attraction in fantasy rape for me. I did, however, get to experience the misguided intentions of a "dominant" who attempted to "erase my past trauma" by setting up and carrying out a "play" rape on me with another "dominant"....without my knowledge of course because I never would have agreed to it. The end results were a relationship that up to that point had been promising was immediately disintegrated, a very embarassing trip to the ER for stitches in a very embarassing place, lots of questions from medical staff, the resurfacing of my past trauma, sleeping in the closet with a loaded shotgun for the next month...and a man who will forever have to live with the guilt of his poor decision forever.

As for women learning to be better prepared for real rape as a result of a play rape.....not going to happen.



thetammyjo -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 6:30:24 AM)

I learned through experience that I cannot fulfill someone's rape fantasy.

Lived through the real thing as a child, I never imagine myself as a rapist and in fact attempts to play that role resulted in crying and anger on my part.

However, one way I found that I can do a similar thing is when the situation is such that the concept of consent isn't a factor. For example, if we role play that I own someone and we live in a society where slaves are just legally and socially available for sex then the idea of rape of a slave in that society does not exist. By that world's standards I'm not a rapist then. Also in that scenario though the slave does not consider it a possibility that they can say "no" but they might plead for mercy or more gentle use or use the sex as a means to get privileges.

For some reason in my mind and heart that makes a big difference.

However, even in those scenes the bottom has a safeword because I can't let go of my underlining ethics that it needs to be consensual.



christine1 -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 9:38:06 AM)

i have always had rape fantasies involving myself being raped by a man.  i'm a big fan of the differences between a man and a woman and i really admire the physical strength that men have.  i am not physically strong at all, in fact my physical strength isn't even considered to be at a normal level...the docs say it is because i was born a premie and addicted to heroin, but i digress.   to have that "safety" of a planned rape so to speak, where i could fight back my hardest and still be overpowered is just sexy as hell to me, and with a dominant that i loved, it would be quite emotional and bonding for me too...it's hard to explain that fully as i don't understand it completely myself.  



Amaros -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 9:44:11 AM)

Nope, can't say as I've ever fantasized about it.

Fazed.



vampchick88 -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 10:03:46 AM)

  I would love to try a rape fantasy, but rubberpet would have to be bound and gagged so he wouldn't just throw himself at my feet. I'd definately get him when he wouldn't be expecting it. Like after he comes home from work or somthing. Lock on the cuffs, secure the gag, and lead him to the dungeon.  I agree here isn't the best place for details but to use him without mercy, for hours, nonstop. Just allowing wimpers and moans to come from his ball gag. Thats my rape fantasy!



MasterSohun -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 10:35:03 AM)

true story,i had a slave that ask me early on as a Dom about this she helped me flesh out i had the fatasy of raping a slave,so we acted on it,i have these alot with slaves of mine,how violent ,sometimes hard sometime just gags and bondage.i enjoy this kind of play,sometimes its ripping off her clothes,soetimes i will tell her to prepare but she wont actually know when adds to the element of it,yes i also take some precautions here!



Mercnbeth -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 11:04:31 AM)

this slave used to fantasize about rape, because she was operating under the misguided assumption that only a rapist would use a woman for His pleasure and really not give a crap if she is into the specific acts He does to her, for His pleasure.
 
then she found out about this "lifestyle", and what was once relegated to fantasy is now reality.
 
to answer your questions posed, no to all three, this slave has never fantasized that she is the one calling the shots or forcing anyone to do anything.



DragonLadysFire -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 11:54:50 AM)

"Women, do you ever fantasize about":

1. raping a man?   If so, how violent is the rape?  Does he like it or does it matter?
Yes, very violent
2. raping a woman? (even if you are straight)
Yes, across the board for violence
3. any other rape-related scenario that i haven't listed, where you are the rapist?
Yes and yes

Haven't had a chance to act one out, but if I did precautions would be in place.



KindLadyGrey -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 12:34:53 PM)

I fantasize about raping men all the time, sort of. I'm not sure if it's rape, because it's not really about harming the other person or asserting my power over them, it's just about taking what I want when I want it.

Every once in a while I'll see or meet a person and my brain will start thinking about dragging that person into a closet or back alley or what not and forcing them to have sex with me. Whether they want to or not. . .well, both fantasies appeal :)

EDIT: While in most cases my fantasies apply universally to both genders, this one does not. I know far too many women who have been raped, and the reality will forever ruin the fantasy for me. I also have no rape fantasies of my own, and get kind of upset when Dominants start talking down that path.



Decimus -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 1:06:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy
What i'm wondering about is, just how common is it for men to fantasize about rape and how common is it for women to fantasize about raping, either a man or another woman. 
 
So, my question is this, "Men, do you ever fantasize about":
 
1.  raping a woman?  If so, how violent is the rape?  Does she like it or does it matter?

No I could not do that at all!
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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy
2.  being raped by a woman?

Yes, in fact it is the only way I will lose my virginity.
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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy
3.  being raped by a man? (even if you are straight)

No I do not like men sexually at all nor do I fantasize about them in any senerios.
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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy
4.  any other rape-related scenario that i haven't listed?

No I could not hurt or rape a woman.



KnOcala -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 2:01:03 PM)

I have never had a rape fantasy but have played it out a couple times for different partners that had one.  I'm not crazy about it, I like to take what i want which is along the same lines, but I know my partner is willing.  If she ever really did not want the event to occur, then it is rape and it is a horrible crime.
Never had a rape me fantasy, would like a woman that took charge and took what she wanted but not rape.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 4:03:00 PM)

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if you were to be attacked by a rapist, would you be better able to handle the situation because of your rape play experience?  Of course, i know that no one knows how they will react to a situation until they are actually in that situation.  But, do you feel that you might be better prepared for such an event, if it were to happen?

No.  I'm more prepared to deal with it becuase of good self awareness and self defense.

Fantasies and rape play is nothing like rape.

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  Does the thought of being raped (not in fantasy or in play but, in an actual attack) frighten you more, less or, just the same, as it did before you experienced rape play?  Thanks again.

Less- because when I was a young teen it scared the shit out of me that I wanted something so horrible to happen to me and was freaked out by enjoying it if someone actually did so.

Only thing about my fantasies that freaked me out.  Once I realized I could have what I REALLY wanted- the fantasy rape, it all came clear.



GreedyTop -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 4:31:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

Thank you, to the women who have responded so far.  Your answers have been very interesting and insightful.  Since all three of you said that you have experienced rape play, i'm wondering whether you feel that, if you were to be attacked by a rapist, would you be better able to handle the situation because of your rape play experience?  Of course, i know that no one knows how they will react to a situation until they are actually in that situation.  But, do you feel that you might be better prepared for such an event, if it were to happen?  Does the thought of being raped (not in fantasy or in play but, in an actual attack) frighten you more, less or, just the same, as it did before you experienced rape play?  Thanks again.
 
slave joy
Owned property of Master David


Having been non-consensually raped, I use rape scenes (as the victim) as a way to 'slay the monster'... rape scenes give me back the power I *didnt* have when the actual rape occured.
I've talked to other women who have been raped and are in this 'lifestyle' who can't do rape scenes because of the association, I guess it's  all in one's perception.

I've never thought about raping anyone else.. I guess my experience kinda puts a damper on that...LOL



tigerstyle -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 4:45:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

  Of course, it's well-known that rape isn't 'about sex'

This piece of dogma never made any sense to me. The idea that rape could be "about power, not sex" is only coherent if sex and power are somehow separate. Which, as BDSMers, we know not to be the case.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: The other side of the Rape Fantasy (1/9/2008 4:52:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tigerstyle
This piece of dogma never made any sense to me. The idea that rape could be "about power, not sex" is only coherent if sex and power are somehow separate. Which, as BDSMers, we know not to be the case.


No "we" don't. 



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