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RE: Ron Paul...not so cuddly? - 1/11/2008 2:57:50 PM   
Stephann


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

I'm goddamn tired of being called a liar.

Here is the text of the 2005 Sanctity of Life act (HR 776) as written by Paul or his staff:
*see below please.
The pertinent section defining human life is <snip>

I'm not calling you a liar.  I'm calling you misinformed.  You've decided who, what, and how the man is without having done your homework.  Paul's stance on things doesn't follow traditional liberal or conservative  lines because, over time, we have shifted our political expectations from personal responsibility, to the Federal Government.  When a child trips and falls in the bathtub, instead of blaming ourselves for being bad parents, we blame Uncle Sam for not instituting federal housing codes on requiring non-slip surfaces in the bathtub.

Paul represents a very old political concept of personal responsibility.  That big government, is bad government.  That big governments pander to the military-industrial complex, that tells you to worry about Iran, when our own military aggression abroad against our corporate ideology is the very reason we have become the target for terrorists.  The point is that Paul's personal stance on abortion, marijuana, or even civil rights have nothing to do with the office he's seeking.  His opinion, so consistant that he's earned the nickname 'Dr. No' is that the the federal government shouldn't be in the drug, housing, abortion, or environment business.  That's why we have state legislatures; do you even know without looking up, who your state senator is?  The constitution was established with the understanding that there are no 'one size fits all' solutions to government.  This is why we even have state lines to begin with. 

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RE: Ron Paul...not so cuddly? - 1/11/2008 4:36:02 PM   
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You say he wants to let states decide what to do on abortion. I say "no, look at the Sanctity of Life act, it is quite clear on the matter." You claim I have my mind made up rather than going by the evidence. Since I have repeatedly and continually presented actual evidence this is calling me a liar.

Now I've actually gone to the trouble of posting the bill he actually presented to the House. You know the one the guy who never ever votes yes on anything and is always going on and on about how the feds shouldn't be involved in anything and guess what the bill doesn't say what you or he claims it says. It was a sleazy attempt to get a life = conception rule codified at the federal level with an added requirement that every state honor that definition of person and then further attemots to prevent federal review of a federal law. This piece of crap makes clear Paul isn't a Libertarian or a friend of the Constitution. Your failing to acknowledge your error in claiming this bill would devolve power to the states shows that you not I are blind to the evidence on this subject.

I further post a video where Ron Paul actually says he doesn't believe in the Theory of Evolution. How goddamn disconnected from reality do you have to be to be a MD and not believe in evolution? Is he still prescribing penicillin for the same infection he was prescribing it for 30 years ago?

What about putting earmarks for his district into a bill he then votes against knowing it will pass overwhelmingly? 65 pages of such earmark requests are here:
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/allpolitics/0706/popup.congress.earmarks/pdfs/tx.14.paul.pdf
Now that's just plain hypocritical.

He's an extreme conservative who has found a cushy niche pretending to be a libertarian.

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