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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/20/2008 11:31:37 PM

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Nah.

"I'm very new to my fantasies. What really makes me wet is thinking..." indicates one of three things:
- It's a fake. You can find messages like that on Craigslist any week, and they're all fake.
- It's a setup. Which is worse. If there's a husband involved, this is likely.
- It's someone who overdosed on romance novels, and when it gets real, they'll freak.

I've known four women who were into that sort of thing. One ran seven miles a day and rode horses. One ran an all-girl motorcycle club; her idea of a good run was SF to San Diego and back, through a storm. One had had a tough life in a tough neighborhood and worked out with Special Forces types. And one was a roadie for heavy metal groups. All very athletic, outdoor types, who could handle themselves and were used to getting a few scrapes and bruises.

This doesn't sound like that.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/20/2008 11:37:14 PM

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I've recently been contacted by a lovely lady that wants me to be a part of her Rape/ravishment/intruder Fantasy. I'm not really into this but thought it might be fun and I do have an open mind.

Here is a copy of what she wrote me.....
"I'm very new to my fantasies. What really makes me wet is thinking about after my husband leaves for work at midnight. Forgetting to lock a door or window and someone is waiting for me...or comes to my bedroom. I have a lot of different scenarios, use your imagination..lol "

Keep in mind she has also explained that she is in an open marriage and allowed to play, her husband is sub.

My question is........What advice can you give me to protect myself. Does anyone know of any kind of Contract out there on the net pertaining to this kind of play? Not that contracts are legally binding but in a worst case scenario it would prove that it was consenual. Maybe I'm being too cautious or have seen too many movies but I don't want to be set up in any way.

I think the thing all these threads sometimes miss is that legal standards are made and enforced by the vanilla community. It's foolish to think a contract or video tape will protect you when being judged by people that cannot conceive of wiitwd. It may very well prove a case against you for misdemeanor assault. There is no legal protection OP and acting out a rape fantasy with someone you don't know is just a silly risk in my opinion.

The fact that you respond that you don't want to get to know her is a huge red flag to me. How the hell will you know what she is actually consenting to if you know nothing about her? That's just foolish. Some things are better left for fantasy. If you don't have the inclination to do it safely and consenually, don't do it.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/20/2008 11:37:37 PM

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my god this sounds so hot. If she is as sexy as you say. Man don't hesitate. Agree on a safe word and do it.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/20/2008 11:42:30 PM

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my god this sounds so hot. If she is as sexy as you say. Man don't hesitate. Agree on a safe word and do it.

Yes, good idea. By all means do it. Her having a safe word is BOUND to keep you out of jail when the cops come.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/20/2008 11:48:45 PM

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my god this sounds so hot. If she is as sexy as you say. Man don't hesitate. Agree on a safe word and do it.

Yes, good idea. By all means do it. Her having a safe word is BOUND to keep you out of jail when the cops come.

You can use the same one in prison, I hear rapists are REALLY popular there!

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/20/2008 11:53:03 PM

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Look there are risks inherent with all sex. You do what you can to manage or mitigate those risks. But beyond that it is out of your hands.I think it is a much bigger risk not to live life to the fullest and enjoy every moment you have. That's just me.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/20/2008 11:57:20 PM

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Look there are risks inherent with all sex. You do what you can to manage or mitigate those risks. But beyond that it is out of your hands.I think it is a much bigger risk not to live life to the fullest and enjoy every moment you have. That's just me.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, however, one can enjoy life and minimize risks and one doesn't have the right EVER to maximize risks to another human being.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 12:13:24 AM

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Look there are risks inherent with all sex. You do what you can to manage or mitigate those risks. But beyond that it is out of your hands.I think it is a much bigger risk not to live life to the fullest and enjoy every moment you have. That's just me.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, however, one can enjoy life and minimize risks and one doesn't have the right EVER to maximize risks to another human being.

how is really getting hurt here? I mean if you come to me with a fantasy and you are a willing partner who wants to pretend not to be a willing partner how is that bad? As long as there is a way to stop this if it gets out of hand, As long as both parties are willing then it is game on. I am not saying he should actually rape or ravish her...

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 12:14:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: chaos9071

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ORIGINAL: chaos9071

Look there are risks inherent with all sex. You do what you can to manage or mitigate those risks. But beyond that it is out of your hands.I think it is a much bigger risk not to live life to the fullest and enjoy every moment you have. That's just me.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, however, one can enjoy life and minimize risks and one doesn't have the right EVER to maximize risks to another human being.

how is really getting hurt here? I mean if you come to me with a fantasy and you are a willing partner who wants to pretend not to be a willing partner how is that bad? As long as there is a way to stop this if it gets out of hand, As long as both parties are willing then it is game on. I am not saying he should actually rape or ravish her...

Did you read the part about him not wanting to get to know her or talk to her about what she really desires and is consenting to?

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 12:26:44 AM

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I just responded to the original post. So let me get this straight. He is confronted by this fantasy but HE doesn't want to lay down ground rules. Then he comes here asking if he should just do this? that doesn't make sense. I am not calling you a liar. I am saying I don't get it... Why would he do something like that unless he is the biggest idiot on planet earth...

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 12:37:09 AM

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Read the thread.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 6:50:49 AM

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It's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't situations - if you ask for all kinds of assurances upfront, she may lose interest, since a big part of the hotness of this is the anticipation, and lack of planning, on the other hand if they neighbors see you and/or she starts screaming, you'll have a lot of explaining to do and she might not be willing to admit her part if she suddenly decides her repuation is at stake or something.

I guess it boils down to: do you feel lucky?

Fortunately for me, this is not a huge fantasy of mine, so the couple of times I've been confronted with it, I've gone the safe route and asked questions until she lost interest - save the e-mails.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 7:10:17 AM

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Too many variables,and the cheating part is the worst-I'd call a red flag on it all.

She sounds unstable. Someone would have to be emotionally and mentally rock solid and trustworthy for me to go there.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 7:17:03 AM

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I think this will end in lots of prison sex...so it is a win win situation

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 7:47:50 AM

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mistoferin Perhaps if you would have read what I had written, you would have not come to the conclusion that I was a bumbling idiot. Whoever put you on the pedestal that you stand, seriously needs to be drawn and quartered. This was a question, not an invitation to show everyone how high and mighty you are. Oh my, how Grandoise you are.....................

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 7:54:04 AM

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As for the rest of you, thank you for your comments. I asked for information on the subject hopefully from people that are experienced in this kind of play. If I wanted an opinion of the "risks" involved , I would ask my mom.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 7:59:22 AM

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Well, I would be some more circumspect than you are in talking to my good friends out here.

First off, I would at some point be going out to dinner with him and her, I would have pictures of you and them in your place and theirs, I would keep every cmail and have her handwrite some of this on snail mail, to you.

If she wants to fuck you, you could still go to court, but you would give your voicebox some papers to shuffle around while you are in the slam and would have at least the appearance of a defense if you had to go down to see the judge.

And if it never comes to that, you have some stuff to look at in your old age.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 8:06:33 AM

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As for the rest of you, thank you for your comments. I asked for information on the subject hopefully from people that are experienced in this kind of play. If I wanted an opinion of the "risks" involved , I would ask my mom.

And I gave you mine. And have done this sort of thing, and am NOT in jail. If the husband does not know-you are burning a candle at both ends, not just one.

If you do not like hearing things that don't agree with your fantasies, then don't ask us.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 8:27:15 AM

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I didn't start this thread to get into a pissing contest. I was asking for advice from people that are experienced in this kind of play. I might not have been clear on my original post so I asked again. Alot of you are coming to conclusions and even deviating from what I have said and then arguing about it. To those that gave insightfull opinions I thank you, to the rest of you lets just call it a day, this is going nowhere.

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RE: "Ravishment" Fantasy - 1/21/2008 3:26:26 PM

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OP, I see no pissing contest here, apart from your stinking attitude. You posed a question in a public forum. ANYONE, whether they agree with you or not, can post here. ANYONE can offer opinions if they choose to and yes the CM god, in his infinite wisdom, also gave us the right to deviate by giving advice, even if it wasn't asked for. Just because you started the thread doesn't make you king of the hill.

You'll find it hard to find anyone who's done this, because few people would be that stupid. So I suggest that you and chaos get this girl and give her an almighty scene. You have no need of anyone elses opinion, because you are both so domly.

Let's hope you get the same cell, because then you'll have lots to talk about.

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