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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/29/2008 2:24:31 PM

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Wow... you seriously sound like my ex... he can't hear when people talk. I'm thinking the Cliff Notes version of the responses here was "no thanks, we're not sharing our deep dark secrets" with some humor thrown in. You know... humor.. breaks the ice, supposed to make you laugh, feel welcome, all that fuzzy shit. And we know who is sending you mail, that's no big secret. Hey... maybe THEY will share their big secrets with you.

I missed the bitter bile... could you point it out please?

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/29/2008 2:53:24 PM

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I was one of the people who sent you emails, Mr. Heart. If you recall, I related some of my online experiences, how they differed from yours, and suggested how you might change your approach to get positive results. Your response left me underwhelmed.

I have posted opinions that many people have *strongly* disagreed with. However, no one has ever been sarcastic with me, or offended by what I've said -- because I try my best to respect other people as people, and I think it comes through most of the time.

Picking on MadRabbit, who for my money is almost always right when he posts, is another example of your poor judgment.

I finished a telephone conversation not 20 minutes ago with a woman who said she met a man online recently who put her in serious physical danger, but even so she was willing to put that behind her and meet with me because we were getting along so well. If you build other people up (instead of denigrating them, which is your current MO) you will discover an entire world of humanity that you presently don't know exists.

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/29/2008 3:38:09 PM

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wow josh, youre seriously pissing people off AND cracking them up on this thread, well done! 11 pages, i am impressed. AND, every single one of my personal favorite posters has shown up. im glad i came back.

ive got to say, all the fluff, and bs, and teasing, and shit talking around this site is a good thing, if you can get thru it all, its all really quite uplifting. theres alot of humor to be found, and alot of good advise. you are recieving alot of attention here, sheesh, my threads NEVER last this long!

but, you are pissing people off, and thats not a good thing. you made a comment to me pagessssss ago that still has people pissed off, and thats not ok. not at all. people have asked questions which youve chosen not to answer, i have asked you questions and got no answer. this is usually dont so people can know you a little better, to know how better to answer you.

why would anyone want to be straight up with you if youre unwilling to answer a couple simple questions? think of this, if you have a new patient who is scared and unsure of you because they dont know you, and dosent want to tell you anything because they are afraid, how do you treat them to get the information you need?

its my guess that youre some sort of level I counselor fresh out of school, or maybe even treatment. and i can tell you since i was there once (ooh a secret revealed!- level I is a drag folks, trust me!), youre going about it the wrong way. the way to get client or anyone else , to share, is to be open, willing, respectful, empathetic, and non-judgemental.

try it, i bet youll make some new friends, and maybe even get a raise!!!!!

and please come back and let us all know how it worked out for you, serioulsy

- domahpet

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/29/2008 5:06:53 PM

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mad rabbit...et al.   the prospect of a forum asking people to share ideas & thoughts still sound like a very useful mechanism to me.
unfortunately, MOST of you mistook my example of sharing - for a bleeding heart. it was not   simply a story of some early disappointment here.
so rather like blind sharks...SOME smell vulnerability in the CM waters, and offer helpful support ("put on your big-boy pants...etc.)

you know i still get mail from people who've scanned these postings, reminding me the sour & bored here belch-up sarcastic shit whenever, and as ofetn, as possible. OK...that's apparent. each nasty piece has a name attached...some with thousands of postings. do you get benefits with this posting work kids?

i am quite surprised that my initial post drew so amny. as i said...as sharks smell blood...an op to practice their newest sarcastic BS.
those who have spit some bitter bile in posts, i'm sorry for you and the fact you enjoy a shot at making some one feel badly.

children, look to the start and notice my post was no cry for help.  the thought was mine, and i shared an early disappointment to get
the ball rolling. immediately the ignorant and smarmy comments began. so keep it up. of course you'll feel better, briefly, in 'shared' bitterness.

Joshua

You know Joshua, it is really quite sad that a seemingly intelligent young man like yourself would continue to behave in the manner you are despite hearing what we have told you, all, I might add, in the best of spirits.

What you are failing to realize, is that the "people" who are possibly writing you about all the "awfully bitter" posters here who rejoice in being snarky to newbies, are really just jealous because they cannot discern the humor and fun that we all have here. They are not part of the group that is entertaining, fun and yes, smart as a whip, who are as likely to give you a good smackdown comment as some heartfelt advice.

Do you honestly, honestly think that we post what we do to make anyone feel badly on purpose? Are you delusional? No, we all start off with the best intentions until the poster refuses to hear the answers or does not like the replies and gets condescending, as you did. You fail to see your part in all of this. Sad.

I have often re-read something I posted and later went back and apologized for my attitude. You know why? Because I am not a know-it-all snob who cannot see another point of view. And guess what? Those who I have tangled with the most in some cases, turned out to be the most empathetic people yet and we both were the better for our communications, mis- or otherwise.

This forum is great fun and very informative and supportive when you let down your guard, your ego and develop a sense of humor.

If not, you can continue to drink the Kool-Aid that those "people" keep feeding you.

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/29/2008 5:53:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: JoshuasHeart

I don't find people terribly willing to go beyond convenient truths, and what is fairly politically correct. This is in Life (real-time), and certainly my experience in a short time on CM.   Just a few have I found remarkable to offer up head & heart, putting armouring aside, embracing vulnerability, to allow for the deepent revelations. And I certainly understand this. Everyone is interested in keeping the soft underbelly guarded. No one wants to be cast-off, disregarded...or eat bad news.

As a teen, I knew a girl for a summer, adoring her but assuming I could never win her heart. Late that summer she approached me and asked if I disliked her. Aghast I said, "No." I pointed out what I just shared, the truth. She explained she had been hoping I'd say something since she had a bit oif a wild crush on me.

I learned an important lesson that summer. ASK.  Mathematically the odds are with you in large numbers. Never let that one who looks sogood get away without saying,"You're really quite pretty. Want to grab lunch sometime?"
A no and you've lost little. A "yes", and anything can be. THEME: Toss a bit of unpoken honesty out here. Honesty on CM? What a concept.

My honest burp? I signed with CM as a hoot. Thought this would be "interesting." After talking to one woman (talking being PMs, then phone), for a week, I was astounded at how she "got me" faster than I can recall in the last several years real-life. I looked so forward to our talks, and was, maybe for ther 1st time in a LONG time, anxious before she'd phone. Then she told me she "thought it possible she could love me..."   My mouth went dry. I poured my heart out about how stunned I was at the intensity of my feelings. I 'gushed', if you will...smile.

We said in the next call we'd make plans to fly her to me. I believed her words as I knew I was alive. The time came for the phone call. I was so damned prepared.   I told a good friend. He raised a brow, "online?"

The time arrived for the call. It never came. after 3 emails, and no response i let it go. Bitter pill. Did it hurt...good god. I decided to keep the account here open...just to make certain I was not running away.

Yup. Sometimes people go "poof" and all the e-mails won't bring them back. She probably lost interest or found someone local. It's happened to me.

But I've met several sensational women on CM. Don't let the one spoil the many for you!

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 9:18:18 AM

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sweetwenchie try learning yoga. That may help you attain your dream. Then help me with my dream and let me watch. To the op get to the back of a long line of people who have been what you went thru. Subtee you make 43 sound like a bad number youngster.

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 9:23:11 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JoshuasHeart

mad rabbit...et al.   the prospect of a forum asking people to share ideas & thoughts still sound like a very useful mechanism to me.
unfortunately, MOST of you mistook my example of sharing - for a bleeding heart. it was not   simply a story of some early disappointment here.
so rather like blind sharks...SOME smell vulnerability in the CM waters, and offer helpful support ("put on your big-boy pants...etc.)

you know i still get mail from people who've scanned these postings, reminding me the sour & bored here belch-up sarcastic shit whenever, and as ofetn, as possible. OK...that's apparent. each nasty piece has a name attached...some with thousands of postings. do you get benefits with this posting work kids?

i am quite surprised that my initial post drew so amny. as i said...as sharks smell blood...an op to practice their newest sarcastic BS.
those who have spit some bitter bile in posts, i'm sorry for you and the fact you enjoy a shot at making some one feel badly.

children, look to the start and notice my post was no cry for help.  the thought was mine, and i shared an early disappointment to get
the ball rolling. immediately the ignorant and smarmy comments began. so keep it up. of course you'll feel better, briefly, in 'shared' bitterness.

Joshua

Ok... lemme try to explain this again.

You asked people share something that they have never shared before.

That means you asked people to share something that they haven't shared with anyone before.

That means putting something on an internet message board that you haven't told your owner, your pet, your parents or your friends.

Usually if something isn't shared, there is a reason why.

CM does not require anything to join. Anything at all.

Anyone can look at this thread. Anyone at all. There is already a website that someone made a time back where you search through all the userpics on CM.

So sharing that which has never been shared before here is a huge emotional risk that simply is not reasonable for many people.

Can you understand this?

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 9:43:01 AM

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and yea, we do get benifits

ice cream cones

hand cuffs

paddles.....

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 11:15:17 AM

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Ok... lemme try to explain this again.

You asked people share something that they have never shared before.

That means you asked people to share something that they haven't shared with anyone before.

That means putting something on an internet message board that you haven't told your owner, your pet, your parents or your friends.

Usually if something isn't shared, there is a reason why.

CM does not require anything to join. Anything at all.

Anyone can look at this thread. Anyone at all. There is already a website that someone made a time back where you search through all the userpics on CM.

So sharing that which has never been shared before here is a huge emotional risk that simply is not reasonable for many people.

Can you understand this?

Apparently .....no........seems to be alot of this going around

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 11:16:46 AM

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Well I tried.

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 11:38:54 AM

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Takes the pointed cap off of Jeff's head. Now do you underestand. Wait. Sorry. I didnt know it was pointed for a reason.

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 12:06:37 PM

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 12:46:28 PM

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how come whenever anyone says anything directly to this guy, we get no reply?
god i hate when people do that
bitch bitch bitch moan moan moan
then, nuthin

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 12:49:41 PM

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Thats the kinda thing that makes me feel.....people post stuff just to stir up shit.

Jeff

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 1:13:56 PM

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Oh furkin hell. Lil joshy resurrects a quickly cooling thread simply to have yet another bitch about how awful everyone is except himself.

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 2:30:43 PM

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Thats the kinda thing that makes me feel.....people post stuff just to stir up shit.

Jeff

OMG. I am laughing so hard at the irony of that... my cheekbones hurt - the ones on my face. Yeah yeah yeah, cmon, Jeff, make the other ones hurt (stole your line!).

Cali

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 3:14:35 PM

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how come whenever anyone says anything directly to this guy, we get no reply?

I have a theory. It's based on the character of his posts, and the, um, niceness of what he wrote me on the other side.

People are thinking he's part of the internet-wanker-no-showed-on-me club. I'm not so sure. My guess is he was flirting with a woman and making nice. She kinda liked him, because he can turn a phrase and is not dumb. They agreed to meet. He thought he had "landed" her, stopped flirting so much, and returned to his regular cuddly self. She in turn said, "WTF!" and bailed.

He's not answering your questions, domahpet, because facts would cause him to look even more like a cad.

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 4:03:37 PM

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youre probably right, but all i wanted to know was what kind of work he does

i never once tried to hit on him!

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 4:14:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: domahpet
how come whenever anyone says anything directly to this guy, we get no reply?

I have a theory. It's based on the character of his posts, and the, um, niceness of what he wrote me on the other side.

People are thinking he's part of the internet-wanker-no-showed-on-me club. I'm not so sure. My guess is he was flirting with a woman and making nice. She kinda liked him, because he can turn a phrase and is not dumb. They agreed to meet. He thought he had "landed" her, stopped flirting so much, and returned to his regular cuddly self. She in turn said, "WTF!" and bailed.

He's not answering your questions, domahpet, because facts would cause him to look even more like a cad.

I got one too

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RE: Honesty. That which you've never put out there. - 1/30/2008 4:23:47 PM

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Yeah, I saw your comment in the fantasy thread and had a sneaking suspicion.....

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