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catia -> marriage and true relation (1/25/2008 5:08:04 AM)
Why it is so difficult to get married to a domineering woman when they are a slave trans or cd. I am a good man, I venerate the women, I am a true slave and impossible to find a true relation

LadyEllen -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/25/2008 5:14:38 AM)
Question - what about a dominant trans woman as a potential partner? Answer yes, and you shouldnt have too much problem I'd have thought, to find someone - we're all pretty desperate after all LOL! Answer no, and you answered your own question; women are as selective as you would be with such an answer! There are ladies out there who like crossdressers Catia, and more who will tolerate it - but its by no means everyone's preference. It isnt impossible, but its difficult even without taking into account what is a minority preference for women, going from what gets posted here on the subject. E

DiurnalVampire -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/25/2008 5:18:45 AM)
I would suggest focusing less on getting married and focus more on meeting and building something. I know personally no matter how good a man you might be, if you focus from the moment we met was how long until we were wed, Id be out the door. Not everyone is looking for marriage, regardless of if you are a CD or the most masculine man walking. You have to build to that with a god relationship. The marriage is the eventua goal, not the starting premise. Take that stress off and you might have a better time meeting Dominant women. DV

cloudboy -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/25/2008 7:15:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: catia Why it is so difficult to get married to a domineering woman when they are a slave trans or cd. I am a good man, I venerate the women, I am a true slave and impossible to find a true relation I'm curious, how would you answer your own question? Sometimes I feel ready to venerate women too, then I see something like the L Word and remember I'm glad I'm a guy. (This is a non sequitur.) Good luck. Keep faith. Stay flexible.

unforegvn -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/25/2008 5:00:01 PM)
Your Mistress doesn't wish to marry you? Maybe you should wait until YOU are asked to marry. Your duty is to serve her desires not your own.

unforegvn -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/25/2008 5:05:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Sometimes I feel ready to venerate women too, then I see something like the L Word and remember I'm glad I'm a guy. (This is a non sequitur.) I have the series on DVD, makes me glad I am a WOMAN.

YourhandMyAss -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/25/2008 5:21:47 PM)
True slaves wouldn't be whineing about what they want.

catia -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/25/2008 5:33:03 PM)
Thanks for your answer. I more wanted to speak true daily relation of. I don't have Mistress.

undergroundsea -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/25/2008 7:39:59 PM)
As long as one is not focusing only on one's own needs, I think it is fair for a slave to also be mindful of his or her own needs. I think the extent to which one chooses to forgo own needs is subjective and voluntary, and is a matter of compatibility. Cheers, Sea

LotusSong -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/25/2008 9:18:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: catia Why it is so difficult to get married to a domineering woman when they are a slave trans or cd. I am a good man, I venerate the women, I am a true slave and impossible to find a true relation Are you seeking a heterosexual Domme? If so, that could be the trouble..being they are attracted to men who identify as men 24/7. While they may dress a guy up for kicks on occasion, it wouldn't be a constant thing .I have no doubt you are a good man. The motivation between a coupling of a CD male and a het female would be entertained but from different motivations and probably leave you unfulfilled.

catia -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/25/2008 11:37:44 PM)
i hate freedoom, and i hate live as a man all time. i think i must be broken, train to become a trans permanently

HerBoudoir -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 7:06:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: catia i hate freedoom, and i hate live as a man all time. i think i must be broken, train to become a trans permanently Do you understand that making the decision to live your life as a woman and go through the trans process is something that is completely independent and separate from whether or not you can find a Domme to marry? Lady Ellen can jump in here and much more eloquently discuss the issues around going through the trans procedure much more than I can; HOWEVER, I will say that if that is something that you want for yourself, then you need to do it for yourself rather than try to find someone to do it for you. I say this because it will be taking your life, turning it completely inside out, potentially losing all you have, taking all of your relationships from family to friends and yes with your Domme and turning them on their head, with zero guarantee there will be anyone there to hold your hand at the other side, married or not. And ultimately, you will need to be strong enough in yourself to rebuild a new life for yourself when it's all said and done. It's a helluva process to go through unless you're absolutely certain that it's something you want in your life; essentially to correct the physical discrepancy that is out of allignment your gender identity. You have some huge agendas when it comes to relationships - you want someone who fits an extremely specific fantasy ideal AND you want marriage out of the relationship AND you want her to push you into going through a lengthy and comlicated process that will alienate you from the life you know now AND you want her to totally be into you as you are. I'm not saying your wrong for pursuing the type of relationship you want. I AM saying that the more specific your requirements, then the smaller the number of potential partners there are for you. You have an extensive agenda and frankly seem very inflexible about it. Again - that's fine if that's what it takes to make you happy - but you would probably be happier overall if you lived your life for you rather than in the hopes that you might find this half-a-needle in a haystack. I have to wonder - how much real time experience do you have actually being in a BDSM based relationship? Not playing dress up, not having someone spank you sometimes, but actually being in a long term relationship with a Domme? You may need to take some time, step back, and really consider what you NEED in a relationship for it to work for you, and what you can be flexible about. You should also take a step back and really think about the trans process - consult the appropriate health physicians - and investigate for YOURSELF what it will take to go through it. A health professional can also help you decide whether it's really something you want to go through or not.

thetammyjo -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 7:13:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: catia Why it is so difficult to get married to a domineering woman when they are a slave trans or cd. I am a good man, I venerate the women, I am a true slave and impossible to find a true relation A domineering woman? I frankly don't think that's too difficult. Look for the person and everyone pretends to like and respect but actually talks poorly about behind her back. Getting her to take you serious may be an issue but I suspect if you cater to her whims she might feel inclined to keep using you. ...... I'm in a mood this morning aren't I? As for looking for a DOMINANT woman, just your local community and become more than focused on an ideal or a fetish object. Become a person who is knowledge about the scene and about getting along with others.

LadyEllen -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 7:48:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HerBoudoir Lady Ellen can jump in here and much more eloquently discuss the issues around going through the trans procedure much more than I can; HOWEVER, I will say that if that is something that you want for yourself, then you need to do it for yourself rather than try to find someone to do it for you. I say this because it will be taking your life, turning it completely inside out, potentially losing all you have, taking all of your relationships from family to friends and yes with your Domme and turning them on their head, with zero guarantee there will be anyone there to hold your hand at the other side, married or not. And ultimately, you will need to be strong enough in yourself to rebuild a new life for yourself when it's all said and done. It's a helluva process to go through unless you're absolutely certain that it's something you want in your life. Thanks HB - but I think you pretty much summed it up. I did see the post in question from Catia a while back, but to be honest I'm suffering what LotusSong describes as "transtedium" today - I've gone over and over and over the whole subject so many times, and strangely perhaps, its not something that normally occupies my daily thoughts nor one which I find so interesting that I want to have to explain for every instance we have like this one - especially when I already did a day or so ago on the "attitudes towards sissies" thread. Catia - check back through the many and varied threads here on crossdressers, sissies, trans etc matters? If transition is something you really need to do, there's lot of information there - and lots of warnings to take into account if its just something you want to do. E edited, 'cause I quoted the wrong thread! Catia - check out pages 5-6 in particular

catia -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 7:58:39 AM)
Madam I want to thank you for your analysis. I want to thank you for your interest on subject. I want to thank you for being discuss it seriously. All paradoxes which you raise are real. Under the inflexibility of requirement fright hides. There is a true masochism, a true sensuality, a true taste for salaciousness and hard sexuality, excés. But the fright at transforming me alone yes. I loved in madness a woman who at the beginning played for my pleasure and it has should take an ascendence true on me. While keeping me man it has me aliné in a relation vanilla. But I finished "woman in the home". I left my job for its carière which I had favoured. I patched his home, brought up both children, to disavow my pleasures and to change life sansm' in fifteen counts or that she gives the choice to me. I am graphic designer to indicate I transferred my creativity in the creation of art and pictures, and also a therapy. She left 150 days by years abroad. And it is that I became a woman insulated but also happy to live and to serve the home. I fantasized a lot by doing the cleaning etc... My ex woman, wanted me man but insane person in normality, her I understood that I was born slave. http://cichacki.neufblog.com/radikal/ look at my art work from 2000 till 2006 http://www.myspace.com/eric_cichacki look at my job of style of drawing that I make company for on myspace I have just changed life there is dtrois years, divorce, serious illness, judiciare procedure and resumption of activity. But I know that I am a slave trans. I need that a woman puts me under tutelage. I plan to be administered of traittements in hormones soft to begin. I know that I am going to make it, it would be only to see me in pics there. I know that I am going to make it, it would be only to see me photographs there. My masochism is also linked to the fright of the transexualité. Alone the courage of a ruler, the upper woman can conquer it. I am a weak-willed person thereupon. Thank you Madam for your help. I am ready to answer all your questions Slave catia

LadyEllen -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 8:18:39 AM)
OK Catia, just for you I'll suppress my transtedium and tell you what I think, based on what you've posted here and what's in your profile. I believe that you would be making the biggest mistake of your life to go for transition to female, because to be honest all I see is a male fantasist talking about indulging the outer limits of his sexual fantasy in the most psychologically and physically dangerous way imaginable. In the end of course, its your life - in more than one way. Please, if I'm wrong in my impressions, please tell me why? And apologies for the angry tone, but honestly, its just got to me today. E

catia -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 8:19:29 AM)
I lived three suit an experience of complete submission. All my time under influence, surveilé and decided for me. Not complétement, a woman who cécouvré and who a quick extremist power on me. I had to téléphonner him every hour. a dozen request of homage a day or that I am often in the toilets of coffee or in the school or I teaches. More right to look at a woman or to want a woman, I held a notebook of autodenunciation on all my errors, poor thought etc. A notebook or I had to write three hours every, my deepest sexual fantasies, my thoughts, menvies, my love etc everything. I came into the world to live as it under tutelage. I think that I must be broken by a clear, determined woman, without scruple and happy and proud because so. I am a prey indeed slave catia I like to be hit, I need it, not in scéances but in daily life, I need the power of other one

catia -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 8:21:37 AM)
sorry for my bad english

catia -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 8:27:42 AM)
You are perhaps right also madam Ellen. My feelings are also flustered on this subject. To attain true sensuality it is necessary to be opened up to women mentally but also physically. I am a creator. I want to belong to the upper woman, it is everything.

catia -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 8:35:25 AM)
Thank you for your interest. I search Mistress ...... fair an unique woman. who knows that life is short. Be able import sexuality, it is the whole life. A mystic. An identification. A radical revelation. I want to be the sequestrated slave of a woman who transfers me roughly, sissy, a maid, a whore...... the upper woman

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