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Rectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/1/2005 12:33:03 AM

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A long time ago, I asked whether people at collarme had noticed any correlation between men who identified as submissives and impotence, and got various responses (because I had chat with one or two subs who weren't into phucking at all). Found this article, so wanted to share here for any thoughts or comments. M

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American Journal of Epidemiology, the Watertown, Mass.-based organization analyzed nearly 800 men of whom more than 160 had erectile dysfunction, and found that men who are submissive are much more likely to develop erectile dysfunction than those who are not -- and that problem can't be cured by the little blue pill.

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/29/1728_63120?src=Inktomi&condition=Home%20&%20Top%20Stories

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Erectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/1/2005 12:36:05 AM

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Can't believe I pressed send before double checking title spelling! M

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RE: Erectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/3/2005 11:50:06 AM

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Let's see now --- e-rectile dysfunction, then, would be the inability to engage in on-line sex due to dysfunction of e-motions (on-line counterpart of motions, which we all know are more important than size).

If I had a nickel for every time I hit 'send' before checking thoroughly, I'd be a little wealthier than I am now, to be sure. C/

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RE: Rectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/3/2005 12:33:01 PM

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RE: Erectile vs E-rectal dysfunctions. *laffing, sorry, couldn't resist!* Actually, this is a great topic. I have found that the prevalence of online submissive info available today has led a great many men with ED to wonder whether their willingness to engage in oral service might indicate that they are submissive in nature. I think they follow links and online stories that perhaps convince them they have always been submissive, when in fact they are not. Sifting through the ED afflicted sub wanna be's is about as difficult today as sifting through the latent homosexual crossdressers and transvestites. I realize that many fetishes are often linked together in a sub's identity, however, sometimes I grow weary of searching for a virile, distinctly heterosexual submissive male who can sexually perform without those little blue pills. If you find one out there, send him MY way, wouldya? *grinz* TexasMaam PS: No, I'm not saying that CD or TV or TS subs are insincere, I'm entitled to My 'druther's' just like anyone else, and CD TV TS subs are not what I'd "druther" spend time with. Neither are men who 'discovered' their 'submissive side' when they learned that little blue pills couldn't raise their sticks, either. Sorry boyz.

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RE: Rectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/3/2005 12:36:56 PM

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In other words, I think the study was flawed. I don't think that submissive men are more likely to develop ED at all. I think that men with ED are more likely to learn about and pursue a submissive lifestyle in response to their ED. I can't wait to read more responses to this topic!

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re:Erectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/3/2005 12:57:15 PM

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I think the study was flawed. I don't think that submissive men are more likely to develop ED at all. I think that men with ED are more likely to learn about and pursue a submissive lifestyle in response to their ED. I can't wait to read more responses to this topic!

Thanks for this view, and I suppose it is very possible. M

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RE: Erectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/3/2005 1:01:23 PM

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e-rectile dysfunction, then, would be the inability to engage in on-line sex due to dysfunction of e-motions (on-line counterpart of motions, which we all know are more important than size).

Thanks for the funny though apt reply, since a lot of what happens between subs and doms happens online. M

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RE: Erectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/4/2005 3:34:08 PM

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i read the article.
As a nurse who has alot of pathophsyiology knowledge, i think the article was worth zero....
my summary would be...ED from organic vs psychological reasons, period.
And in was a poor study being a selected random study with a portion of the males submissive, not indication as to how they came about that information.
I'd like to see a study...lets say 100 doms age 30- 45 and 100 doms age 45-60
then 100 subs 30-45 and 100 subs 45-60.
Do you think a study could get 400 from the lifestyle?
Then compare and analyze the study on ED...is ED organic vs psychological and also add a twist....why are you dom vs sub with and without ED.

i am not a domme or switch but i have had several male subs contact me to serve me...but when they realized that service to me, meant me serving my Dom as well...in other words, being His cock cumslut, they back off.
i figured obeying the desires of my Dom in being His cockslut would be welcomed by male subs...but it seems, they might not be able to get it up and thus, would rather paint my toes, suck my lily, clean my dogs stink out of the back yard or whatever, is far more up their alley of needs then doing my desires in obeying my Dom.

Did any of that make sense? i guess, i am really saying, from my lack of getting any male sub to serve me the way my Dom accepts their service, maybe they are inflicted with E-rectile dysfunction, thus submissive.

But i can tell you, i have served many a Dom, knowing i am a cockslut, cant get anything going on either. And if this girl is gonna suck cock, she'd like a hard one after i worked it up as they desire.

my 2 cents in the think tank jar.
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RE: Erectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/5/2005 2:55:51 AM

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Your study controls sound GREAT to Me. I'd love to see the results of that study! I wonder where there's a University we can send those paramters to? <laffing. ED in and of itself is not a condition that bothers Me, if the submissive is sincere, devoted, intelligent, humorous and active. I suppose it helps that I can orgasm while simply flogging a sub. My ability to orgasm with our without clitoral stimulus or penetration certainly would take the pressure off of a fellow insofar as performance issues are concerned. What interests Me with regard to ED, intimacy and it's impact upon a BDSM relationship is the subs response. Without the erectile response to give me a benchmark as to what the sub finds erotic or mentally/physically stimulating, it forces Me to look deeper into the psychological and emotional needs of the submissive male heart. In a way, it's liberating and deeply gratifying to know that a sub keeps wanting and needing contact with Me for more than sexual stimulation. Because I know from experience that men with ED can cum without an erection and can find satisfaction and fulfillment without an erection, it makes the exploration of our BDSM activities even more entertaining. I think it's important for a man to re-evaluate his identity when coping with ED. A key objective is to take him back in time and find out who he was before he ever engaged in sexual contact. Who he became after that point in time is always the sum total of who he thinks he is today. I love to watch a man metamorphosize into the boy he once was, or might have been, when it dawns on him that perhaps there was more to life than he ever realized. One has to lead him to recollect what his interests were, hobbies were, dreams were, before that fateful meeting that led him to become a husband and a father. The act of sex is such an ingrained part of a man's identity that it takes time, and considerable effort, for him to 'rediscover' himself without sex. A man with ED needs to come full circle, and finally reconsider old boyhood dreams, interests, activities that were such a part of his personality before he reached his teens, when everything changed. Suddenly, as a teen, a man's focus changes completely. Men develop lifelong careers, pursue educations or professional training, all based on who they were with an erect cock and sexual pursuits and activities, they identify as a 'partner', 'husband', 'father', when their primary interest before that time might have been say science, or something they did at home with their mothers or their fathers: cooking, gardening, reading, music, mechanical repairs, who knows! It's a fascinating journey to watch the engineer or the attorney rediscover a deeply motivational interest they forgot long ago; history, or art, or a sport long forgotten. I'm sure that My ability to take him there satisfies something maternal in Me, in return. A man with ED tends to forget how much he has to offer and can destroy himself with negative self talk; it is deeply satisfying to help him rediscover his manhood in an entirely new light. It is even more satisfying when he hands over that new identity to Me in trust, honor, devotion and complete submission. Texas Maam

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RE: Erectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/5/2005 3:59:54 AM

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I think it's important for a man to re-evaluate his identity when coping with ED. A key objective is to take him back in time and find out who he was before he ever engaged in sexual contact. Who he became after that point in time is always the sum total of who he thinks he is today. I love to watch a man metamorphosize into the boy he once was, or might have been, when it dawns on him that perhaps there was more to life than he ever realized. One has to lead him to recollect what his interests were, hobbies were, dreams were, before that fateful meeting that led him to become a husband and a father.

Thank you for your post TexasMaam! Learning a lot from reading 2 or 3 of yours already, and like your sense of humor.
Welcome to the boards. M

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RE: Erectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/5/2005 6:36:33 AM

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Your insights into a man's seucality is indeed enlightening TexasMaam....

and i concur with BlkTallFullFig...i have indeed enjoyed reading your posts.

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RE: Erectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/5/2005 6:55:59 AM

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btw TexasMaam, i went to look for yur profile, but none.

Your comment.... "My ability to orgasm with our without clitoral stimulus or penetration"
was indeed my expereince. I can do the same while sucking cock, which my therapist has views on... much like your discussion on men's sexuality from early childhood.

Would be nice to correspond with you on the other side.

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RE: Erectile dysfunction and subs? - 9/5/2005 2:22:05 PM

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Thank you slavedesires, and BlkTalfullfig! Thank you both for the kind compliments. I enjoy these boards, and am tickled to be able to contribute something. I have much to learn, so I read as voraciously as I write. Just remember, My opinions are worth exactly what you pay for them! *chortle*

PS I was SO exasperated at a member here who kept flooding My email inbox with 'gee you're beautiful, i think you should beat me' emails under a plethora of different ID's that I took the profile down last night. It's back up now, sans photo, but give Me time. I'm sure as soon as I can take out these frustrations on a sub who wants to be flogged I'll be in a much better mood. email Me anytime.

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