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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 1/31/2008 1:11:41 PM   
youngsubgeoff


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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 12:22:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: youngsubgeoff
Is it just me, or does there seem to be some kind of stigma against younger subs? I just dont get it. It seems like nobody is interested in me because Im 20. I know Im not a bad guy, but no one is willing to give me a chance.

Isn't it a bit too easy to scream its discrimination? Bdsm is about preferences,
as is any relationship. What is good for one,
isn't for the other. That it's far from easy to find that
significant other, I fully agree, but that hasn't
only gotto do with your age, even people My age,
Dom/mes and subs have a hard time finding that one person.

This is how it is.
It takes allot of patience, hard work to invest in yourself, and even more patience, before that One will show geoff.

I wish you enough.

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 12:54:51 AM   
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Well, I think there's a stigma because people our age, in general, come off as sex-crazed, immature, and irresponsible.  The worst part about this is, of course, that there's some actual truth to it. 



I think that problem stems more from being attached to a penis than it has to do with age. In my experience, older men aren't particularly less sex-crazed, they've just been through being sex-crazed and shot down enough to know what doesn't work as well... sometimes. I have a theory that once past "middle age" some men revert to being teenagers again when confronted with a woman half their age, but that's another story entirely. ^_^

Anyway, the grass is always greener ont he other side, as they say. When you're young, no one takes you seriously, because you're too young... when you're older, no one wants you,because you're "too old" and those youngins are showin' you up!

There's no winning.

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 8:43:07 AM   
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.  Your sig just ain't in the same maturity category.




i realize this is a slight derailment so i apologize in advance.

i've been reading this thread, and your thoughts on this guy's sig line are interesting. i must be strange, in that i would actually rather read something goof ball in someone's sig line than something from a tony award winning play. while i admit to using churchill, i think that something "stupid" shows me something about someone's personality and not their maturity level. if this were true, a lot of comedians would be out of a job.  i guess i just don't put a lot of weight into their sig line instead of their posts (which i'm not saying that you're necessarily suggesting) since three quarters of the time i don't notice them in the first place.


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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 8:45:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: iammachine


Anyway, the grass is always greener ont he other side, as they say. When you're young, no one takes you seriously, because you're too young... when you're older, no one wants you,because you're "too old" and those youngins are showin' you up!

There's no winning.

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i personally am coming to think that this is the root of the entire problem. there's been a lot of these age vs. maturity threads lately and i'm noticing that this is a trend. people, as least IMHO, forget that they started some place at some time, and people also forget that other people have been where they are now.


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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 11:01:22 AM   
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people, as least IMHO, forget that they started some place at some time, and people also forget that other people have been where they are now.

No one forgets it. No one doubts it.

Maturity has NOTHING to do with age or experience level. Period. I know 12 year olds who are more mature than 50 year olds; and I know 20 year olds who are more experienced in some things than 50 year olds. Just as there are 50 year olds more mature and experienced than 20 year olds.

Some people are more mature than others; no matter what their age may be. Some people are more experienced than others; and this will never change.

Someone young and inexperienced; if they have a level of maturity about them...people respond to that in a positive manner.
If they lack maturity; then people respond to that in a negative manner.

It's really very simple.

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 12:03:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

i guess i just don't put a lot of weight into their sig line instead of their posts (which i'm not saying that you're necessarily suggesting) since three quarters of the time i don't notice them in the first place.

Of course you are correct.  I was only pointing to it as an example of a pattern.  Strong posts, profile and live contact, and a silly sig line - no prob.  Self-absorbed posts, profile and live contact, and who cares who you quote in your signature?  My point was to construct a different pattern of self-presentation, and details do make up the whole picture.

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 4:35:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with Juliaoceana that male subs seem to have a difficult time than female subs.  Either way I don't think its relative to ones age.  A lot of factors come into play...whatever the cause or reason is, enjoy your time or your journey to finding "the one" or whatever it is that you seek.  You'll get there eventually...kick back, have fun, laugh (there's tons to laugh about on here).

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 5:51:49 PM   
youngsubgeoff


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Status: offline 		What really pisses me off is that no one takes the time to get to know me, they just make a judgement based on what I have written in my profile. I am not someone that reveals all right away. Even in the first few meetings with someone, Im fairly quiet, prefering to get to know someone else before letting them know me.

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 6:04:32 PM   
RedMagic1


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Status: offline 		Remember she's a woman before she's a "dominant woman."  Women are often targeted in this society.  Many Dommes have had bad, dangerous experiences with men they met online.  Female subs have too, of course.  She's going to want to size you up, to know (#1) that you are SAFE, and (#2) that you are a relationship possibility, for whatever kind of relationship the two of you are considering.

You don't need to put personal things in a public profile.  I don't.  Many people, male and female, barely have any info in their profiles at all.  But early on, by the second email or the first phone call, you have to be willing to put yourself out there.  Yes, it's uncomfortable, and it hurts more when you are rejected, but look at it from her point of view.  You're physically stronger than at least 90% of women in the country, judging from your age and frame.  You have to find some way to communicate that you are intriguing and worth taking a risk on.  That means being willing to reveal what is below the surface.

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 6:06:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		The reason I personally, do not have any interest in younger men is for many reasons. I have never, in my entire life, met a younger man, that I feel is mature enough to be on the same level with me. I used to give them chances and many of them would seem very mature at first until I got to know them and they broke my heart because they could not stay committed or got bored, or cheated. I know this can also happen with older men, but it seems to have happened alot more in my time dating and having relationships with younger men. I have also had trouble in the far past with me being the sexual teacher of younger males....It was fun for a while but after a while I got sick of being the teacher and would rather have  someone with at least a little bit of experience because it seems most younger men take a long time to learn how to please a woman as apposed to an older man with more experience, maturity, and knowledge.

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but I just don't trust younger males as much as I would trust an older one. And when I mean older I don't mean someone that could be my dad either lol.....

Right now I guess it doesn't matter anyways cause I prefer ladies.

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 6:28:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		As a domme my wife Diane gets approached by males subs of all ages,some are wonderful men and some are to be blunt assholes.AS for her age limit set at 25 its mostly a legal thing.Like someone said you have to be at least 21 to get into a bars or to attend most major events...Hang in there someone special is waiting just for you....

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/1/2008 6:31:10 PM   
TracyTaken


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quote:

Is it just me, or does there seem to be some kind of stigma against younger subs? I just dont get it. It seems like nobody is interested in me because Im 20.


That is not discrimination - it's personal preference.  It is possible that you are putting something out that results in a reluctance to engage.  I would think that there is a demand for young subs.  There are successful subs here, so you might want to check out what they are doing that you are not, or what you are doing that they are not.

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/2/2008 5:45:25 AM   
GoddessTeaze


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quote:

ORIGINAL: youngsubgeoff

What really pisses me off is that no one takes the time to get to know me, they just make a judgement based on what I have written in my profile.

Hello pissedoff laddie,
Tell Me, what else do Wwe've to go on from ?
your profile, so make it good!
If it's intriguing, it will atract
the right people laddie!


have a good weekend.

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/2/2008 6:04:20 AM   
Justme696


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quote:

ORIGINAL: youngsubgeoff

What really pisses me off is that no one takes the time to get to know me, they just make a judgement based on what I have written in my profile. I am not someone that reveals all right away. Even in the first few meetings with someone, Im fairly quiet, prefering to get to know someone else before letting them know me.


But you talk here aboput you beeing quiet. IS it in your profile mentioned too?
As the profile is the first thing Dom(mes) see, it is pretty logic they judge first about the content. It is human...and yes I agree...it is just a "peek" of the real person behind it.


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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/2/2008 6:14:05 AM   
rubberpet


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Status: offline 		Geoff, I agree with those who have a preference of age.  During my search for an owner, I had my age limit set at 25 because I didn't think a domme younger than that had enough life experience, relationship experience, and BDSM experience.  Until I found Mistress, I was right on the money.  Most were space cadets with no real concept of what it meant to be a domme.  Most profiles I read were all about how cute they were and how much tribute they wanted.  Ugh...so not for me.  It seemed like everywhere I looked, there were only profiles for pro-dommes.

One day, without really thinking about it, I dropped the age limit down to 21 (Mistress was 22 at the time) and Her profile popped up.  I immediately started drooling over Her gothic beauty, but realized She was only 22.  Her profile mentioned nothing about tribute or how cute She thought She was.  It stated what She was looking for, Her interests, and Her requirements.  It took about a week to decide to write to Her because of Her young age.  After getting to know Her, I happily discovered She was the perfect domme for me.  She is much more mature than Her age.

My point is not all young people are immature.  It is up to you to display that maturity.  I admit I can be a complete goofball and love to post weird and wacky stuff in the Humor and Randon Stupidity section, but I feel I give sound advice and worthwhile opinions, too.  Try to present yourself more as a fine young man.  If you want to attract a woman who is worth her weight in gold as a domme, then appeal to what interests her.  Refine yourself and be sincere in your search, but don't make yourself into something you are not.  It's like going to the junkyard and picking up a rusty, beat-up, old '69 Camaro.  After putting in the restoration work, it's still the same car...just restored.  Be that Camaro, geoff...be that '69 Camaro!

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/2/2008 11:49:39 AM   
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I adore younger subs, so long as they are emotionally mature and willing to work hard.  Just be patient.

And always look at the bright side -- you are getting older every day. Why worry?  You should be worried if you were 55 years old and realizing all femdoms wanted *younger* subs -- not much you can do about that....

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/2/2008 4:28:53 PM   
youngsubgeoff


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Status: offline 		Ill admit, patience is hard... But, I guess every other male sub has to go through the same shit.

rubberpet... bastard! shooting Dr Pepper from my nose is not a good feeling!  

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/3/2008 4:51:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Youthful arrogance and testosterone tend to create a less-than-submissive sub. I've only ever topped younger men professionally, and all but two have had to be tied up for the majority of the session, because they kept trying to touch me inappropriately. (I also added a gag for those who addressed me in a less than respectful manner.)

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RE: Discrimination against younger subs? - 2/3/2008 7:13:35 PM   
youngsubgeoff


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Status: offline 		its really sad that you judge someone based on others actions. I genuinely feel sorry for you, and everyone else that does so.

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