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ORIGINAL: batshalom

I've done a lie or two of omission in my day. I won't pretend I was in the right, or that there were good reasons, or offer any excuses for it. It was what it was, I was an adult and capable of making my own decisions and suffering through the repercussions of those decisions.

That was some time ago, however, and I agree with toserv that there is no point in having a D/s dynamic if one's Dom's orders aren't carried out or if one lies about the task's completion.

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ORIGINAL: toservez

I would never lie about this because otherwise what is the point really. A common punishment for me is no orgasms for a certain amount of time but that is always in days not months.

To me it is a compatibility issue. I would not be trained or be with someone that practiced this. I have zero issues with those who do this from both roles and do understand the dynamic that is used. I am just saying if my Master told me my next orgasm was slated five months from now, I would just laugh and walk out the door. For me personally it would simply violate my trust that he cares for me and wants me to be happy.

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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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ORIGINAL: toservez

I would never lie about this because otherwise what is the point really. A common punishment for me is no orgasms for a certain amount of time but that is always in days not months.

To me it is a compatibility issue. I would not be trained or be with someone that practiced this. I have zero issues with those who do this from both roles and do understand the dynamic that is used. I am just saying if my Master told me my next orgasm was slated five months from now, I would just laugh and walk out the door. For me personally it would simply violate my trust that he cares for me and wants me to be happy.

"Service" is probably a foreign word in this one's vocabulary.

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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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ORIGINAL: toservez

I would never lie about this because otherwise what is the point really. A common punishment for me is no orgasms for a certain amount of time but that is always in days not months.

To me it is a compatibility issue. I would not be trained or be with someone that practiced this. I have zero issues with those who do this from both roles and do understand the dynamic that is used. I am just saying if my Master told me my next orgasm was slated five months from now, I would just laugh and walk out the door. For me personally it would simply violate my trust that he cares for me and wants me to be happy.

"Service" is probably a foreign word in this one's vocabulary.

really? Is that like saying that because she wants certain things for herself - stated up front at the beginning of a relationship, she's not submissive enough?

I don't see how making the choice to not be involved with someone who chooses this route somehow makes her any less than sure of what she wants as far as a relationship goes.

To each their own, y'know?

Someone doesn't want abstinence. someone does. Someone doesn't believe in punishment.. someone does, find the person who works for you and be done with it. It doesn't take putting someone else down for her choices. She didn't say it was wrong. She said it was wrong for her.

juliet

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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

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ORIGINAL: toservez

I would never lie about this because otherwise what is the point really. A common punishment for me is no orgasms for a certain amount of time but that is always in days not months.

To me it is a compatibility issue. I would not be trained or be with someone that practiced this. I have zero issues with those who do this from both roles and do understand the dynamic that is used. I am just saying if my Master told me my next orgasm was slated five months from now, I would just laugh and walk out the door. For me personally it would simply violate my trust that he cares for me and wants me to be happy.

"Service" is probably a foreign word in this one's vocabulary.

really? Is that like saying that because she wants certain things for herself - stated up front at the beginning of a relationship, she's not submissive enough?

I don't see how making the choice to not be involved with someone who chooses this route somehow makes her any less than sure of what she wants as far as a relationship goes.

To each their own, y'know?

Someone doesn't want abstinence. someone does. Someone doesn't believe in punishment.. someone does, find the person who works for you and be done with it. It doesn't take putting someone else down for her choices. She didn't say it was wrong. She said it was wrong for her.

juliet

Not at all. I said what I said because often times, as it's been explained TO me..service is about putting another's needs and wants before your own. Her answer of "I'd laugh and walk out" tell me she places her needs before another's. Didn't say that made her a bad person. Just stated a fact as I see it and as it was explained to me long ago. I had an ex once who I often asked if she would abstain from orgasm if I wished it. Even (jokingly) made her promise it to me a few times. She said it was a huge (great) mind f- because she never truly knew if I was serious or not. But she stated many times that if it were my wish, she would indeed give up that pleasure for me. That's a far, far cry from "laughing and leaving."

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ORIGINAL: OmegaG

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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

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ORIGINAL: toservez

I would never lie about this because otherwise what is the point really. A common punishment for me is no orgasms for a certain amount of time but that is always in days not months.

To me it is a compatibility issue. I would not be trained or be with someone that practiced this. I have zero issues with those who do this from both roles and do understand the dynamic that is used. I am just saying if my Master told me my next orgasm was slated five months from now, I would just laugh and walk out the door. For me personally it would simply violate my trust that he cares for me and wants me to be happy.

"Service" is probably a foreign word in this one's vocabulary.

really? Is that like saying that because she wants certain things for herself - stated up front at the beginning of a relationship, she's not submissive enough?

I don't see how making the choice to not be involved with someone who chooses this route somehow makes her any less than sure of what she wants as far as a relationship goes.

To each their own, y'know?

Someone doesn't want abstinence. someone does. Someone doesn't believe in punishment.. someone does, find the person who works for you and be done with it. It doesn't take putting someone else down for her choices. She didn't say it was wrong. She said it was wrong for her.

juliet

Not at all. I said what I said because often times, as it's been explained TO me..service is about putting another's needs and wants before your own. Her answer of "I'd laugh and walk out" tell me she places her needs before another's. Didn't say that made her a bad person. Just stated a fact as I see it and as it was explained to me long ago. I had an ex once who I often asked if she would abstain from orgasm if I wished it. Even (jokingly) made her promise it to me a few times. She said it was a huge (great) mind f- because she never truly knew if I was serious or not. But she stated many times that if it were my wish, she would indeed give up that pleasure for me. That's a far, far cry from "laughing and leaving."

Many of us have times when we are not allowed to come for relatively short periods of time, but most of us who are reacting to the other thread where a gentleman in not allowing his girl to come until June 17th.  Personally if I went through 5 months of arousal without release I'd be nuts.  It's not something that I could do and remain emotionally stable.

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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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ORIGINAL: toservez

I would never lie about this because otherwise what is the point really. A common punishment for me is no orgasms for a certain amount of time but that is always in days not months.

To me it is a compatibility issue. I would not be trained or be with someone that practiced this. I have zero issues with those who do this from both roles and do understand the dynamic that is used. I am just saying if my Master told me my next orgasm was slated five months from now, I would just laugh and walk out the door. For me personally it would simply violate my trust that he cares for me and wants me to be happy.

"Service" is probably a foreign word in this one's vocabulary.

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ORIGINAL: toservez

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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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I would never lie about this because otherwise what is the point really. A common punishment for me is no orgasms for a certain amount of time but that is always in days not months.

To me it is a compatibility issue. I would not be trained or be with someone that practiced this. I have zero issues with those who do this from both roles and do understand the dynamic that is used. I am just saying if my Master told me my next orgasm was slated five months from now, I would just laugh and walk out the door. For me personally it would simply violate my trust that he cares for me and wants me to be happy.

"Service" is probably a foreign word in this one's vocabulary.

No, it is calling living in the real world and not in a fantasized cyber theory world.

I am a slave in the real and sane world. This does not mean I have no right to my needs or strong desires. Anyone that is in healthy relationship, including BOTH parties in a power exchange relationship have most if not all of these things met by their partners. For most human beings regardless of gender or rolls a satisfying sex life is a strong desire we kind of want to have met in our relationship. Five months without an orgasm does not cut it for me.

You can dream, preach and fantasize that a slave obeys and serves unconditionally and that alone in life makes us happy but that is not reality. We are as selfish as the next human being. We want to be happy and when we cease to be happy in term of long-term projection not just from a bump in the road a mentally a healthy slave is going to dump their Master.

As you ignored the writing in my post and another response that Juliet pointed out, I would not be in a relationship where this type of orgasm control would have been agreed to. For my Master to come to me and go by the way the next five months no orgasms and WAS serious about it that would be his breaking our trust and my hard limits. Not a test.

For you to defend your one note by qualifying it could be a mind fuck when clearly none of what has been written or referenced has been about this being an actual mind fuck you should simply be embarrassed to have typed that cheap and false justification for your argument. Plus grow up if you think that a slave measures in years would actually laugh and walk out after something like that leaves the mouth of their Master. It was a figure of speech.

You may be the greatest Master in the world real time and your slave may be the greatest slave in the world as well. But reality and then self idealized typing on a message board using convenient made up assumptions because some slave has the nerve to state she has rights other then just to leave are two different things. Sorry, I do not play that game. I take some pride in typing words based on reality and life time experiences. Not as a slave to write in powerful poetic tones I will always unconditionally and no matter even if it breaks my hard limits and violates the trust and love established for each other will always put my Master needs in front of my own even if it leads to a very unhappy life. So I can look like I am the greatest slave in the history of the world.

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When you've caught up and read the rest of the discussion on this statement, let me know.

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ORIGINAL: toservez

I did before I posted it. You seem not to be able take your own advice and continue to ignore clear statements about orgasm control being a hard limit of mine and "laugh and leave" being a figure of speech.

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ORIGINAL: parttimehotty

Understood, but to elaborate on the question further, what if your Dom wanted to amuse themselves by humiliating you and having you wear your underwear drenched w/their cum  to work. The Dom left for work before you did....would you change your underwear but give the impression that you did wear the crusty underwear all day?