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RE: In response to those frustrated with the submissive... - 2/14/2008 9:19:58 AM   
Leatherist


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Some of us are just here on the off chance of finding a few pearls in the mud.

In which case, patience is a good thing..Instant gratification outlooks are masochistic in this realm.

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RE: In response to those frustrated with the submissive... - 2/14/2008 9:25:59 AM   
Scarlet28


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Thank you for all your wonderful responses.

BTW, there was no anger, nor do I have a specific "problem" in writing this post.

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RE: In response to those frustrated with the submissive... - 2/14/2008 10:39:06 AM   
Dnomyar


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I dissagree with the part of exploring with little or no experience. Find a experienced person or a Mentor to talk to first.

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RE: In response to those frustrated with the submissive... - 2/14/2008 12:43:19 PM   
persephonee


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the Doms ive met in real life are very interesting individuals who end up spending a lot of time with me...have become friends and more. i still deal with all of them on some level on a daily basis. i dont hesitate to meet if the sequence of events is not interrupted. i chat then call then meet then...whatever happens after that. i dont feel threatened or afraid of Dominants anymore than i would another man on the street. the problems some Doms find with "getting" the sub to meet, im willing to bet is more than likely due to overreaching and doing it too soon. subs will have problems everytime they back down from one of their own rules. the rules annoy some and those are the ones who need them the most.
imho
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RE: In response to those frustrated with the submissive... - 2/14/2008 5:08:48 PM   
Noah


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well, I guess it does have its charms, you wouldn't have to kiss it right away after it blew you........so thats a plus right there.

Ron 


There isn't much I hafta do.

I just don't think the typical needle-and-knife player is going to find these pneumatic damsels all that terribly perfect.

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RE: In response to those frustrated with the submissive... - 2/14/2008 5:12:17 PM   
Noah


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Scarlet28

I mean no malice, or disrespect.  All I ask is that you consider another perspective.

Most of you have been placed in unfamiliar situations.  Scary, isn't it?  Even with outgoing personalities.

Some of the bottom personals on this site are people completely new to The Lifestle.  Add the threat of cultural taboo.  Social backlash.  Recluctant "outing".  The not-knowing when it comes to the people you are speaking with on the internet.  Online dating is risky is it's own right.  Lifestyle dating?  Even harder.

I'm a submissive unwilling to relocate or travel, yet I'm still on the site.  Why even put myself out there?  I wish to learn from those who have experience.  Now that I've chosen to recognize and embrace it, this lifestyle is will be apart of my life forever.  It is who I am -- yet, that doesn't mean I'm willing to jump into something with someone in the near future.  I wish to learn and grow.

Online dating is hard enough.  Lifestyle dating?  Even harder.  This site is free -- as many of you have mentioned -- and therein lies the risk of those who either don't understand/don't care.

There are those who look at these sites in search of those who will withstand their emotional/physical/mental abuse easier than the average Joe.  These people are abusers, not Lifestylers.  They are predators.  Am I being paranoid?  Yes.  Am I being unrealistic?  No.

That's enough to make anyone reluctant.

No one person is alike.  We're all in different stages in our lifes.  Whether we are new, looking, experimenting, growing.  For all of those angry from messages left unrepsonded:  Did you really read their profile?  Grasp what they are looking for?  Did you relate to what they were looking for?  Were you local, and if not, did they say they were willing to relocate?

If there is no profile, and you are serious, why are you contacting them?  It doesn't make sense.

People are people.  There could be extreme social and familial repercussions for coming out as kinky, or a slave, or a submissive, *insert label here*.  We are not blow-up dolls, with no lives, no connections, no friendships.  There is more to a BDSM relationship than a few messages exchanged on some site.  It takes an amazing commitment to be a submissive, especially a slave.  There has to be an undeniable connection to even want to meet in person.  If they back out?  Oh-friggin-well.  Move on.  There's someone else just waiting for your message.

Anyways, the point of my post is that there is more to the story then most consider.  Period.

I wish you luck, all of you, on the search that completes Who You Are.  Just don't be so judgemental, so discouraged, so bitter, over failed communications.  It's the internet -- what can you expect? 


My ever-so-fallible impression is that frustrations expressed by others have begun to frustrate you. That's borrowing trouble, isn't it?

I hope that airing these feelings out helps you to leave some of this second order frustration behind.

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RE: In response to those frustrated with the submissive... - 2/14/2008 5:29:50 PM   
lronitulstahp


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quote:

 Even with my LD friendships, some of them have slowly faded and some of them have become much deeper and personal.  So regardless if one is using this site for making friends, finding somebody for serious LT relationship, or even the proverbial fuck buddy.   The dynamics of making a connection still all apply.   We all are human with different desires, needs, wants and interests.  

  So true.  For me, it's nice having a connection with Doms as friends only.  Perhaps it's my make-up, having four brothers and lots of boy cousins growing up, i'm not exactly sure, but i enjoy and feel comfortable having guy friends.  Many times, a Dom friend makes an excellent sounding board, they can be like "big brothers" that help when i feel unsure,or just need to laugh at the absurdity that BDSM can be at times.  And even if there is harmless flirting, it's understood that we are friends...the lines are not blurry on either side. 

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