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breatheasone -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 5:44:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: batshalom

He made you cut contact with one of your friends but he still maintains contact with women who send naked pics / dirty messages. Something is kind of smelly.

You're young, bislave, and inexperienced. I don't know how old your master is but he doesn't sound like he's overly mature himself, regardless of his age.

Does he have time to play with these women? Does he smell freshly showered or like sex when he gets home? Do you have a home you can get back to easily?

Lots of lessons in here and I hope you learn them well so that you don't make these same mistakes again. I am sorry.

Yep.....this is EXACTLY what i was thinking....it sounds like you have a player on your hands....I personally would be V-E-R-Y leary of this man.




bislavegirl4434 -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 5:45:19 AM)

*raises eyebrow* Did i not mention that at the beginning? oops. Yes, he's a fair bit older than me...




DesFIP -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 5:46:59 AM)

If during the two year online relationship, he felt fine having you break off relationships, then why didn't he do the same? I don't believe that he couldn't have told these women he was know involved and wasn't interested in this anymore. Instead he welcomed and encouraged them to do this and didn't bother to mention it to you. Lies of omission, that.

I hope you haven't moved in, given up a job, handed over control of your money. This situation does not bode well. He had two years to be honest, so you would know what you were getting into. The fact that he didn't says volumes to me.




AtlantaMistress -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 5:47:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bislavegirl4434

Thank You Ironitulstahp Yes, this is my first 'proper' s/M relationship. All others have just been kinky sex, no actual 'control' outside the bedroom. My main concern with these other girls, is not that they are contacting Him, but the fact that He is regularly in contact with them through his work, and through a couple of His hobbies. It worries me that while He may just be doing something He loves, He may also be flirting with these other girls. Why else would a sub stil be sending Him raunchy pictures after two years?

Do I trust Him? ...I'd love to say yes.. but i'm not sure that would be the conplete truth. I trust Him with me. I know He would always look after me... but i don't trust Him with these other girls.

He isn't trying to hide anything, no, but i do not see why He needs naked pictures of girls everywhere (maybe its just a male thing... !?) and i don't see how its any different to me having a close guy friend... *sighs*

No, the pictures don't do anything for me, because they are intended to attract my Master into going back with them. I will play with other girls, sure, but not any of His old hoes.


Ok - the two most important things to have in any relationship - TRUST & COMMUNICATION! Trust is something that you have to build and earn, and is easily hurt, but you must give a certain amount even at the beginning of a relationship.  It seems you need to build trust and really need to be able to sit down and talk to him. Telling him how you feel and telling him what to do are not the same thing.

I am with a boy that had somewhat of a "sub-frenzy" - after 13 years in a bad marriage, never being able to explore BDSM - he jumped into the lifestyle with both feet - approaching any and every woman online and in person in a pair of high heels. I even had a Domme that a sub asked if she could watch our session. When it was over, my boy came out of another room - and she recognized him from CM and called him by his screen name - he had communicated with her. Does it bother me - NOT AT ALL. I am somewhat glad that he got it out of his system - really looked around before seeign me, and accepting my collar knowing what else is out there.I have been through a lot and have some major trust issues, but I had to decide if I was going to move forward, then I had to start with a certain amount of trust almost on blind faith - which is very hard for me. When I have felt that his or even someone else's behavior has been inappropriate - I have let him know. He and I communicate very well - but I cannot expect him to read my mind. I only have to say something once, and he is happy to correct whatever the problem is. I know he loves me, and I know he is smart enough to know what we have is good, and the more time passes, the more I trust him that he would not do anything to jeopardize it. What is funny is that even with him changing his profile - to put that he is collared by me right across the top, that does not stop some Dommes from contacting him. There was another thread recently about how once a someone is taken, it makes them more attractive to others. You would think that people would respect that he has made a commitment, but instead, he has had some Dommes come out and tell him they were interested that never really pursued him that way before he was with me. I love it. I love that other women would want him to submit, but he is MINE! He is very accepting of what I do (I am a Pro Domme) and knowing he trusts me and is not jealous helps me to trust him as well. Again - we have very good communication, and that helps to build trust.

You cannot change his past, or control what other subs do. You cannot control his actions or how he responds. What you can, and should do - is talk to him about how this makes YOU FEEL. I think you may also need to think about restrictions he has put on you though - and where his possessive or jealous nature comes from. Often, people expect in others what they see in themselves - so if he doesn't want you talking to other men, it may be from his own thoughts and/or actions dealing with these women. Jealousy is not a pretty thing, and can really ruin a relationship, however - it is something that comes from insecurity, and on either side, should be examined why it rears its ugly head. The more secure you are with each other, the less you should have to deal with issues like this.

Good luck to you!






bislavegirl4434 -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 5:53:42 AM)

I am living with Him, but with extended family living practicallt down the road. He has no control over my finances/passports or anything else that he could possibly use for His own gain. I'm not stupid enough to hand such things over to Him.

I want to believe i can trust Him, and maybe thats where everything is going wrong. I don't want to believe that He is playing me, or that He actually has more than just me. He'll be home in a few minutes, so i will sit and talk to Him if possible. I know He has to rush out tonight, so even though it is important, it might have to wait.





Bound2One -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 5:55:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bislavegirl4434

He's 37, i'm 18.

No, he doesn't have time for another woman, he works in a school, so is up and at school by 8.30 every morning, and home just after 4. Which seems resonable to me. After that he has his writting career, which means he spends alot of time in his study typing away. Apart from his 'social outings' (which often include me or running off to the gym to return hot and sweaty) I don't see how he could see these girls.

I just don't like the fact that one of them (his most recent girl) is his boss.


I'm sorry - his boss, his most recent girl, both of whom work at a school, is sending him naked pics of herself and dirty texts?  There's a lot of lack of judgment going on here.  He needs to stop the girls from sending him emails/texts, whatever.  Is he committed to you or not?  You've obviously not in a poly relationship, so he has a responsibility to you to not be in a compromising position. 




breatheasone -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 5:58:26 AM)

PLEASE do talk to him....AND listen. Don't hide your head in the sand or let him try and convince you that little voice nagging at you is wrong.....that will do nothing but make you doubt yourself. Listen to yourself ...trust yourself..... good luck hun....




OmegaG -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:05:45 AM)

FR

you are 18 and had an on-line relationship with a 30 something man for 2 years?

personally, I have no issues with pictures/communication et al.  After all, my concern is with who he's fucking and if he's honest about fucking someone else.  I also don't see an issue with the double standard because of the age difference.

though the mom in me has other issues on another level.




bislavegirl4434 -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:11:51 AM)

*laughs* We both thought people would object to the relationship because of the age, but apart from my family (who think he's 26, he does look young) and his family who think i'm 21, everyone else knows the age difference, and a fair few of his friends know about the dom/sub thing.

It did scare me the first time he answered his cellphone and said into the phone "Oh, yeah, she's here. She's laying at my feet with her collar on."!!

I can see why the mother side of you thinks that, but its not about age...




CelticPrince -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:22:44 AM)

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I just don't like the fact that one of them (his most recent girl) is his boss.


bislave,

This your reply says tons of unspoken words.

A prediction, your gone in 6 months. The reasons I will put in a private id you choose to hear them.

CP




breatheasone -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:23:14 AM)

I think she means that you because you were 16 at the time you started your relationship with him wouldn't be cool with us "mom" types....




bislavegirl4434 -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:27:16 AM)

Ah, then you 'mum' types wouldn't be impressed to know i met him while i was 15, only when i turned 16 did he show me his dominant side though.

CelticPrince... please email me your thoughts. I'm curious as to why you think only 6months!




breatheasone -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:33:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bislavegirl4434

Ah, then you 'mum' types wouldn't be impressed to know i met him while i was 15, only when i turned 16 did he show me his dominant side though.

CelticPrince... please email me your thoughts. I'm curious as to why you think only 6months!

You are correct....I'm not impressed....and i'm impressed less and less with a man of 30 something getting involved with a child of 15.....WOW and I will shut up now before I get my fuckin ass kicked off this site![:@][sm=mad.gif][sm=banghead.gif]




KatyLied -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:34:09 AM)

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but not any of His old hoes.


Has it occured to you that the description may fit you in the future?  Just something to think about.




Bound2One -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:36:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bislavegirl4434

Ah, then you 'mum' types wouldn't be impressed to know i met him while i was 15, only when i turned 16 did he show me his dominant side though.

CelticPrince... please email me your thoughts. I'm curious as to why you think only 6months!


You're right - not impressed.  Wow, he waited to show you his dom side until you hit 16 (which I assume is legal age in your country?).  What a gentleman.  How old are the kids he works with at the school?  And the fact that you have to lie about both of your ages - that doesn't disturb you at all? 

I must apologize for being sarcastic, but there is so much going on that's wrong here I don't know where to start - but you do.  Please be sure to have that conversation with him when you have a good solid time to sit down and talk it through sufficiently. 




bislavegirl4434 -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:40:19 AM)

Breatheasome, Bound2one... please.. breathe... inhale.. exhale! inhale! exhale!

16 is the legal age, yes.

He works with juniors, so 9-12 year olds.

Yes, at first it disturbed me alot. I didn't think it coud work, etc. But now its just normal, much ilke hiding some of the kinkier parts of the lifestyle.




velvetears -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:51:49 AM)

Everything else aside i have concerns that he is in a position to work with underage people and he started an online relationship with someone 15.  You say he has a writing career and is in his study a lot writing... sorry if i sound like a cynic but i think that's his cover to go online and recruit more "young hoes"




breatheasone -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:52:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bislavegirl4434

Breatheasome, Bound2one... please.. breathe... inhale.. exhale! inhale! exhale!

16 is the legal age, yes.

He works with juniors, so 9-12 year olds.

Yes, at first it disturbed me alot. I didn't think it could work, etc. But now its just normal, much ilke hiding some of the kinkier parts of the lifestyle.

Look....I breathe just fine.....but there is NO WAY in hell I would EVER be ok with a man of 30 something being with a child of 15.....and its NOT like just hiding a kink or two.....you both are lying about something very fundamental to a person....their age....




Viridana -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:53:13 AM)

FR

Based on what has been written on this thread, this situation doesn't seem right to me. As a person that has been cheated on in the past, I also thought that he spent all his spare time with me... being at work in the mornings and such. As it appeares, he spent his mornings fucking another woman. So you never know.

I do believe one shouldn't accuse someone of something as horrid as cheating without giving it a careful thought. Somehow, with what you've written there are just too many red flags for me to feel comfortable if I were you. If those really are exes, why do they still send him nudie pics? If the guy wouldn't respond in a flirty or sexual way, I'm sure they would have stopped it long ago. Yeah, occatioal women have done the desperate deed to send the exes all sorts of sexual messages in the hopes of him coming back to them or him giving them attention. But I very much doubt that somehow he's landed in a semi-harem of women doing that. It just smells really fishy. I'd ask him straightforwardly what is going on....

just my two cents... hope you'll work things out for you.




bleusparkles -> RE: Master's 'old' girls... help?! (2/21/2008 6:55:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bislavegirl4434

Ah, then you 'mum' types wouldn't be impressed to know i met him while i was 15, only when i turned 16 did he show me his dominant side though.

CelticPrince... please email me your thoughts. I'm curious as to why you think only 6months!


I'm not even a "mum type" and I'm unimpressed ... With both of you at this point.

Its not so much about the age thing for me though because I had an early start into BDSM. Mostly its because of your attitude. You refer to his previous girls as "old hoes" when you may well become an "old ho" yourself in due time. Reality check here ... I broke up with my first Master something like 8 years ago ... Break ups happen, especially during your teens and early twenties.

Also, the fact that you claim you're "not stupid enough" to give up control of your assets. Thats not stupid ... Thats called trust. Sometimes that trust is well-founded. Other times it is not. There are many D/s couples where the submissive has willingly surrendered control of his or her finances. When that trust is founded, it can be a good thing. I've been there. Its quite freeing. When that trust is unfounded its a terrible thing. I've been there too. I'm not willing to go there again but I don't look at it as a matter of being more intelligent now than I was before.

You're expressing valid concerns but when other people who seem to care about your well being also express valid concerns, you throw it back at them. My advice, which you'll probably ignore, is to have a bit of a reality check. He made you cut communication with a close friend. Why? He said you were too close ... That smacks of insecurity on his part, in my experience. If you're both feeling a bit insecure about things there needs to be some major communication going on before this whole thing blows up in your face and you become just one more "old ho" ...




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