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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:34:13 PM   
dollparts85


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Status: offline 		and I've been in therapy for nearly 7 years now...never found it helpful...they just push the meds route...which doesn't help...just makes me feel worse...off meds I feel great, no depression or anything...on meds I get really sad...and more anxious...

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:34:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is medicine that can help with the acid reflux.

I think the day program is a great idea.

You know you need help...and you even want help.

Accept the help that is offered.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:37:24 PM   
dollparts85


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Status: offline 		I've tried everything OTC and all the prescription medications that Medicaid will cover (Nexium, Pepcid, Prilosec) nothing works...Nexium worked for a while...untill my last relapse...I was purging like 5 times a day for a few months and taking 25 laxatives a day...and it stopped working...I ended up stopping taking it like two months ago b/c it was pointless if it didn't even work and I hate putting more chemicals in my body than I need to...I may try again...since I haven't really been purging much lately...maybe it will start working again...

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:40:39 PM   
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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:43:20 PM   
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  I actually had to make the appointment at my eating disorders clinic myself. My therapist doesn't think my eating disorder is serious...he actually told me they wouldn't put me in the hospital, but well, they did. He never wants to talk about it either...changes the subject fast. .......


BINGO!!!!

Now THAT is the most interesting clue you have revealed!!!

You have Hypochondria, don't you?  Maybe even Munchausens.  Your doctors won't feed your obsession, will they, so you are here hassling us (and other boards no doubt)

Munchausen syndrome is a psychiatric disorder in which those affected fake disease, illness, or psychological trauma in order to draw attention or sympathy to themselves. It is in a class of disorders known as factitious disorders which involve "illnesses" whose symptoms are either self-induced or falsified by the patient. (wiki)

Your "illnesses" (variously, PTSD, bipolar, bulimia, hypothyroidism and - maybe - anorexia) are completely self induced and/or imaginary.  Too much of your story does not add up.

You practically boast about your illness and how incurable it is.  You have a bizarre obsesson with your own medical statistics and medical definitions.  Normal sick people would just be worried and seek help but you are revelling in the role of "incurable" patient.  You seem to visit heaps of doctors for someone who doesn't trust doctors.  You have even set up your life to live on welfare benefits so you can be a full time patient, haven't you?

And you are so proud to have been hospitalised involuntarily, you could not wait to come on this board and boast that you might be hospitalised again.......

And your story about untreated hypothyroidism really does not stack up.  Lady, you love being treated.  You even have your own nutritionist!!  You know it all about your electrolytes, cholesterol, blood pressure, BMI etc etc 

No wonder Food Addicts Anonymous (for bulimics) would not work for you.  No wonder you have pooh-poohed every other suggestion people have made in this thread. You want to be sick.  For the attention and sympathy.

This thread is an insult to the sufferers of genuine eating disorders and their loved ones.  Stop hassling innocent well-meaning people for concern and sympathy

A psychiatrist I know says there are really only two kinds of insane people: the miserable and the horrible. 

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:44:01 PM   
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No-carb is not good for your body. Carbs are the fuel that keeps your body going. Your body STORES protein; it BURNS carbs.

If you're having so much trouble with your stomach -- please, let your doctor hospitalize you. Listen to the nutritionitss, do what they say, and stop doing your own "medical research." A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

You have come to us. If you are trying to rationalize your actions, you must realize by this time that it has backfired. If you really want help, take the advice given you and let the medical professionals do their job.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:56:53 PM   
dollparts85


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ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne

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ORIGINAL: dollparts85

I actually had to make the appointment at my eating disorders clinic myself. My therapist doesn't think my eating disorder is serious...he actually told me they wouldn't put me in the hospital, but well, they did. He never wants to talk about it either...changes the subject fast. .......


BINGO!!!!

Now THAT is the most interesting clue you have revealed!!!

You have Hypochondria, don't you?  Maybe even Munchausens.  Your doctors won't feed your obsession, will they, so you are here hassling us (and other boards no doubt)

Munchausen syndrome is a psychiatric disorder in which those affected fake disease, illness, or psychological trauma in order to draw attention or sympathy to themselves. It is in a class of disorders known as factitious disorders which involve "illnesses" whose symptoms are either self-induced or falsified by the patient. (wiki)

Your "illnesses" (variously, PTSD, bipolar, bulimia, hypothyroidism and - maybe - anorexia) are completely self induced and/or imaginary.  Too much of your story does not add up.

You practically boast about your illness and how incurable it is.  You have a bizarre obsesson with your own medical statistics and medical definitions.  Normal sick people would just be worried and seek help but you are revelling in the role of "incurable" patient.  You seem to visit heaps of doctors for someone who doesn't trust doctors.  You have even set up your life to live on welfare benefits so you can be a full time patient, haven't you?

And you are so proud to have been hospitalised involuntarily, you could not wait to come on this board and boast that you might be hospitalised again.......

And your story about untreated hypothyroidism really does not stack up.  Lady, you love being treated.  You even have your own nutritionist!!  You know it all about your electrolytes, cholesterol, blood pressure, BMI etc etc 

No wonder Food Addicts Anonymous (for bulimics) would not work for you.  No wonder you have pooh-poohed every other suggestion people have made in this thread. You want to be sick.  For the attention and sympathy.

This thread is an insult to the sufferers of genuine eating disorders and their loved ones.  Stop hassling innocent well-meaning people for concern and sympathy

A psychiatrist I know says there are really only two kinds of insane people: the miserable and the horrible. 


LOL and where did you get your medical degree?

My hypothyrodism is being treated, I take Levothyroxine...but last I knew my BMR still was really low. I need to have blood work again to see if the dose is okay...it may be too high or too low...it hasn't been tested since Nov, shortly after they increased the dose.

My mental health clinic is just horrible...which is why I'm changing to another clinic...my nutritionist says I'm too sick to be treated by a psych np that doesn't know what she's doing...but my mental health clinic won't return her calls or switch me to a psychiatrist. My psych asked ME what *I* thought she should prescribe...wtf...I'm not a doctor...then she ended up calling the psychiatrist I saw in the hospital, 250 miles away, to ask HER what to prescribe...and now won't return my calls either, my nutritionist says I need my meds increased b/c I'm symptomatic and stuff but I can't even get ahold of her b/c she won't return my calls...I'm only on 100 mg of Neurontin, 3 times a day...which is normally a dose only used the first week or so of taking it. Normally they bump you up to 300 mg, 3 times a day really fast. Plus I'm only on 20 mg Cymbalta...which is basically like taking nothing at all...but I don't really care cuz I don't want to take either of them anyways. I feel better off meds. But I get manic and do stupid shit like meet men from online and sleep with them LOL

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:59:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SubbieOnWheels

I've stayed out of this until now. But --

No-carb is not good for your body. Carbs are the fuel that keeps your body going. Your body STORES protein; it BURNS carbs.

If you're having so much trouble with your stomach -- please, let your doctor hospitalize you. Listen to the nutritionitss, do what they say, and stop doing your own "medical research." A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

You have come to us. If you are trying to rationalize your actions, you must realize by this time that it has backfired. If you really want help, take the advice given you and let the medical professionals do their job.


I do get some carbs...just not a lot...

and protein builds muscle...muscle burns calories...and if you don't get enough protein, your hair will fall out (problem I've been having...) my nutritionist wants me to get 120 g of protein a day but I get like 60 or so...which is a lot better than I used to get...and I have been increasing in lean muscle weight the past couple weeks, so thats good...means I'm not really eating too little...if I was, I would be losing muscle mass.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 7:13:08 PM   
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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 7:14:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dollparts85

I've tried everything OTC and all the prescription medications that Medicaid will cover (Nexium, Pepcid, Prilosec) nothing works...Nexium worked for a while...untill my last relapse...I was purging like 5 times a day for a few months and taking 25 laxatives a day...and it stopped working...I ended up stopping taking it like two months ago b/c it was pointless if it didn't even work and I hate putting more chemicals in my body than I need to...I may try again...since I haven't really been purging much lately...maybe it will start working again...


I have a friend whose child had surgery to double his esophagus double up (as it was described to me) an inch or so from his stomach, since the acid reflux was a weakness in the esophageal muscle and doubling it up would add more strength to the valve.

The surgery cured the problem 100%.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 7:25:26 PM   
dollparts85


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Status: offline 		I've gone to my gp several times for stomach problems and she's never ordered tests...I know I probably need an upper GI or something...but she hasn't ordered tests...I may mention it to my eating disorders doctor tomorrow...he seems to know what he's doing better than she does....

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 11:25:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't go to doctors complaining I am over weight. Or for weight related concerns. I know what they'll say and I know I have no interest in going on diets, or following programs or joining gyms.

I also don't eat much junkfood, and the little bit of junk I did eat, Ie hot pockets and pizza bites, and bagels and cream cheese, and hungry man tv dinners  I haven't eaten in over 2 plus years.

Of course I am lazy  and I am on my pc much more than I should be, and I don't exorcise, and somedays I don't eat at all, untill midnight, But I don't go to the doctor about my weight problems or concerns regarding weight, get them to spend time treating me and talking to me, and then just ignore  their advice.

Our situation is diffrent cause you keep going to the dr they spend all the time and energy on treating you,  and then you're just ignoreing what they say and doing what you want anyway . You're supposed to be on all these supliments and vitamens, and you refuse to take them, you're probably supposed to be eating regularly and normal amounts and you're choosing to starve yourself.  If you're not going to help the dr's help you then simply stop going and wasting their time and energy.

Now I'd say the same thing about myself if I was going to doctors and nutrishionists for an issues pertaining to my health and then ignoreing the dr's instructions. but I'm not.
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ORIGINAL: dollparts85

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

It's quite callouse sounding of me I know, but I feel if people insist on hurting themself and slowly killin themself by ignoreing dr's advice and refusing to get help, and refusing to do the simplest things to help themselves out, let them, and let the dr's spend the energies and efforts on people who want to take care of themselves, and are willing to help themselves out.
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ORIGINAL: Rayne58

*fast reply*
I know this girl from the Literotica forums, she has numerous mental and physical issues.  People have tried to help her over there but she never listens.  I am sorry for her but she needs to get off her butt and listen to her doctors



if that is you in your avatar...I'm sure your doctors have told you to lose weight, do you listen? Do you stop eating junk food? How is my situation any different?

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 11:34:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		No,, I doubt you're healthier than me you're starving yourself, you've done tons of damage to your body by making yourself throw up tons, you've said so yourself it's a chance your esophogus can burst, they worry about your stomach from all the vomting you've forced yourself to do over the years, and dr's are thinking about hospitalizing you against your wishes, because of your eating disorders you're passing out, you're not eating right. You're not taking good care of your bod. You're purposely making sure you don't hudrate yourself well enough by severlly limiting your water in take* you said so yourself*

That's not healthy mentally emotionally or pysichcally.  My cholesteral is healthy levels, and so is my blood pressure, It's always low, Before assuming someone who's over weight is unhealthy look in the mirror you by your own admited words are the poster child for unhealthy and damaged.
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well, maybe she shouldn't lecture someone if she isn't going to take her own advice. I bet I'm healthier than her. My cholesterol is low, my blood pressure runs around 90/60, my blood sugar is normal.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/27/2008 2:15:59 AM   
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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/27/2008 4:07:25 AM   
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I'm going back to Day Treatment soon...which means I would be going out from 8 am until 4 pm most days...and having group therapy all day long...I used to go like two years ago but it got too overwhelming (I'm recovering from agoraphobia) and they used to have a volunteer group where they would go to the SPCA or food bank or something...which would be fun and get me used to going out...and they give you free gym membership to the YMCA so I can get off my lazy ass and try to strengthen my body (I'm really weak; bad knees, hips, ankles, back...) and then after I'm doing well there, I'm going to start vocational training...I'm thinking about going for a medical billing degree...my local doctors office you don't even have to see the patients in the medical billing department...so thats good...and I'm a fast typer and all...and it's only a few blocks away from where I live now so I can walk there. :)


Ugh, group therapy.  They tried to shove me into that, but it made me feel horribly uncomfortable and the "therapist" didn't know her ass from a hole in the ground.  I never went back and instead stuck to one-on-one therapy.  The one useful thing I did learn from the experience was DBT, or Dialectical Behavior Therapy, which involves recognizing the damaging behaviors and analyzing why you're indulging in them.  Basically, when you realize what you're doing, tell yourself it's not good and stop it.  It's hard in the beginning, but it does get easier.  And more than anything, it's helped me a ton.

You did mention in another post that you didn't like how the therapist pushed meds on you.  I understand that very well.  I resisted meds for a long time because of the side effects, but finally did find one that is not addictive, has no withdrawal period, and doesn't cause the ridiculous weight gain and sexual side effects.  It's called citalopram, and it's $4 at the Wal-Mart pharmacy for the 20mg dose.  If therapy isn't working, or you decide to try meds, I recommend this one (and believe me, I've been on 'em all).  Any therapist worth their salt should, however, stress the importance of good therapeutic sessions in conjunction with medication, not that one is more important than the other.  It's a team effort that way.

As for the stomach issues, try Aciphex (I think that's how you spell it).  Nexium just made me sicker, and Prilosec only worked for me as long as I took it every single friggin' day which they recommend against, but Aciphex was some good shit.  I've got horrific stomach issues and am no stranger to vomiting up stomach acid and bile on a fairly regular basis, so I know what I'm talking about on this one.  For an easy fix when the daily med isn't doing enough, try getting a chewable antacid tablet.  Mint flavor, though, the fruit ones will make you gag even worse.  BLECH.  Oatmeal is fairly non-offensive if you can get past the consistency and you're on the right track to avoid sodas and spicy foods.  For a long time I was in the same boat; I've only now recovered enough to eat my beloved pepperoncinis.  Food is going to be very uninteresting for a while.  You've just got to grit your teeth and get used to everything tasting like mush until your stomach recovers.

Oh, and you don't have Munchausen.  But you have to admit that, whether intentional or unintentional, you were seeking attention with this post.  That's fine.  I've done that a lot in my past.  Don't be ashamed and don't feel like a bad person for it.  Just shrug your shoulders, move on... and more importantly, don't respond to anyone else in the thread, not even me.  I know I'm giving it a bump by posting this, but don't give it any more after this.  Let it die, live your life (you have a good plan for yourself)... and I wish you luck.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/27/2008 10:15:33 AM   
dollparts85


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I don't go to doctors complaining I am over weight. Or for weight related concerns. I know what they'll say and I know I have no interest in going on diets, or following programs or joining gyms.

I also don't eat much junkfood, and the little bit of junk I did eat, Ie hot pockets and pizza bites, and bagels and cream cheese, and hungry man tv dinners  I haven't eaten in over 2 plus years.

Of course I am lazy  and I am on my pc much more than I should be, and I don't exorcise, and somedays I don't eat at all, untill midnight, But I don't go to the doctor about my weight problems or concerns regarding weight, get them to spend time treating me and talking to me, and then just ignore  their advice.

Our situation is diffrent cause you keep going to the dr they spend all the time and energy on treating you,  and then you're just ignoreing what they say and doing what you want anyway . You're supposed to be on all these supliments and vitamens, and you refuse to take them, you're probably supposed to be eating regularly and normal amounts and you're choosing to starve yourself.  If you're not going to help the dr's help you then simply stop going and wasting their time and energy.

Now I'd say the same thing about myself if I was going to doctors and nutrishionists for an issues pertaining to my health and then ignoreing the dr's instructions. but I'm not.
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ORIGINAL: dollparts85

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

It's quite callouse sounding of me I know, but I feel if people insist on hurting themself and slowly killin themself by ignoreing dr's advice and refusing to get help, and refusing to do the simplest things to help themselves out, let them, and let the dr's spend the energies and efforts on people who want to take care of themselves, and are willing to help themselves out.
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ORIGINAL: Rayne58

*fast reply*
I know this girl from the Literotica forums, she has numerous mental and physical issues.  People have tried to help her over there but she never listens.  I am sorry for her but she needs to get off her butt and listen to her doctors



if that is you in your avatar...I'm sure your doctors have told you to lose weight, do you listen? Do you stop eating junk food? How is my situation any different?




You need to go back to school. Your spelling is fucking awful.

and get off your ass and exercise. There's no excuse for not exercising.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/27/2008 11:56:51 AM   
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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/27/2008 12:33:17 PM   
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and get off your ass and exercise. There's no excuse for not exercising.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/27/2008 1:05:58 PM   
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-subject change cause this thread is BS-
Anyone know the difference between psychopath and sociopath?

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/27/2008 1:20:28 PM   
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-subject change cause this thread is BS-
Anyone know the difference between psychopath and sociopath?

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While some people will assert that they are entirely different, or even that one doesn't exist, in more general terms, it depends upon which discipline you are drawing from.... both terms describe the people who match Cleckley's or Hare's revised checklist, but psychopathy was deemed unPC and replaced by socio-path in fields such as sociology... some criminologists still use 'psychopathy'.
Medical diagnoses tend to refer to various types of antisocial personality disorders.

In any case, should you find yourself alone with a charming, verbose individiual, and they stop showing you their photo collection of dead kittens and suddenly leave the room muttering something about 'Shut up mother!'...and you hear the sound of knives being sharpened....

Don't bother asking them if they are psycho-, or socio-, or anti-social.....

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