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Ulnar nerve - 2/29/2008 9:17:50 AM   
subguyca2000


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Status: offline 		Somehow while being tied up with my arms in stringent bondage behind me, I have bruised the Ulnar nerve.  I did not safeword quick enough, and my right arm is impacted to where my last two fingers are numb.  The ulnar nerve is the funny bone nerve which not really funny.

Anyone know what the classic physcial therapy is to improve the numbness??
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RE: Ulnar nerve - 2/29/2008 9:43:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		to improve the numbness, get tied up again like last time.

otherwise, massage and range of motion.

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 2/29/2008 10:23:55 AM   
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RE: Ulnar nerve - 2/29/2008 10:36:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh christ, I am soooo not the person to ask on this one. I just had carpal tunnel surgery on both hands and see the surgeon on Monday to see what additional surgeries I have to have. That includes the possibility of what's called "ulnar translplant" where they go in at the elbow and relocate the nerve to allow it to heal and hopefully restore feeling in those last 2 fingers. I've been using chiropractic, herbs, massage and physical therapy to avoid the surgeries but I may not be able to avoid them. My damage is work related however.
 
OP, if it's only bruised, give it rest, heat to stimulate circulation and light stretching. Think about massage and a chiropractic adjustment to everything back into alignment. Don't strain it again, let it heal. Good luck!

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 2/29/2008 3:23:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is bruising of the ulnar nerve a self-diagnosis?  Because it sounds like you may have pinched something in your neck.  I'd get it checked out with a doctor before you try to self-treat.

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 2/29/2008 6:46:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had this as a result of working at a computer 8 hrs/day leaning on my elbows.  I think Ron hit it on the head.  (giggle)

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 2/29/2008 9:45:01 PM   
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RE: Ulnar nerve - 2/29/2008 10:23:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		i broke my right wrist, 4 and a half years ago now.  it wasnt set properly, it didnt heal properly.

my last two fingers are STILL numb.

definitely seek medical attention.

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 3/1/2008 12:34:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: subguyca2000

Somehow while being tied up with my arms in stringent bondage behind me, I have bruised the Ulnar nerve.  I did not safeword quick enough, and my right arm is impacted to where my last two fingers are numb.  The ulnar nerve is the funny bone nerve which not really funny.

Anyone know what the classic physcial therapy is to improve the numbness??


Please see a doctor. I damaged my ulnar nerve and have had to have two surgeries and I still lost 15% of my ROM. Only a doctor can treat and diagnose whether or not you should even have physical therapy. I had my accident over 15 years ago and started off with corn cob therapy and it just made things worse. My first surgery was an ulnar-radial transposition which did not work and then I had to go back and get a medialepicondialectomy to shave off part of my funny bone and give the nerve some wiggle room. It was only partially effective.

Good luck and I reiterate, please see a doctor and don't try to treat yourself and please, please don't listen to any medical advice on line that says anything other than .. please seek medical attention for your medical problem (or words to that effect.)

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 3/16/2008 10:12:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had ulner nerve damage for many years with my ast two digits being numb at the time, I had a dr recommend taking a super B complex which I thought had no merit but tried anyways. 2 monhs later after 4 years of dealing with two always numb fingers the numbness went away. Its worth giving it a try. I was rather surprised when I noticed one day that they were no longer numb.

Plus if you tend to rest your elbow on a desk or otherwise, this can make it worse of be the cause as the ulner nerve in the elbow sit when it can be pinced if you prop on desks.  And totally unrelated in the elbow area the ulner nerve is also the same as if you hit your elbow the wrong way and hit your funny bone its actually the ulner nerve. its a bit more exposed then the nerve which causes carpal tunnel syndrone. The term for ulner nerve pinching or damage is also cubital nerve syndrone. Hope this helps.

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 3/16/2008 12:27:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subguyca2000
Somehow while being tied up with my arms in stringent bondage behind me, I have bruised the Ulnar nerve.


I'ts quite possible that the bondage lead to this injury. Ropes over the upper arms are not a smart idea if you don't know what you're doing and nerve compression is probably the biggest risk of bondage anyway. If the numbness takes more than a few days to a week to disappear, go see a doctor. Massages may help, and I have heard vitamin B might increase recovery, but don't overdo it without medical advice.

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Anyone know what the classic physcial therapy is to improve the numbness??


The classical therapy to avoid it is to find a rigger who knows his anatomty and to indicate any numbness or tingling straight as it happens. That said, nerve compression is an inherent risk that cannot always be avoided. Fortunately, with non-suspension bondage damage is usually self-limiting and temporarily. It's still pretty scary though.

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 3/17/2008 11:58:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		My Daddy just had ulnar nerve relocation surgery a couple of weeks ago. He was injured from an industrial accident. A bruised nerve needs to be treated by an person that specializes in this sort of injury, namely an orthopedic surgeon.

This is not something to play with, you may need to have your arm in a brace to help the nerve heal, and if you do not get it treated the nerve can even die... extreme scenario, but it almost happened to my Daddy


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RE: Ulnar nerve - 3/19/2008 9:51:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: subguyca2000

Somehow while being tied up with my arms in stringent bondage behind me, I have bruised the Ulnar nerve.  I did not safeword quick enough, and my right arm is impacted to where my last two fingers are numb.  The ulnar nerve is the funny bone nerve which not really funny.

Anyone know what the classic physcial therapy is to improve the numbness??


My mother fell in early December landing on her left side hard. She lost feeling and use in the last 2 fingers of the left hand. She went to see a neurosurgeon who sent her for a specific test to check the nerve. It showed definite damage of some kind, likely pinched. She had surgery done 2 weeks ago on the left elbow and is already regaining feeling and use of the fingers. The nerve had gotten pinched and moved out of place when she landed on the elbow.

I hope you've seen a doctor by now. If not, please do. Without it being looked at by someone who knows about such things, there's no way of knowing what's wrong and what needs to be done to correct it.

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 3/20/2008 3:36:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have ulna nerve damage on both arms, which means I can't put my elbows up on the table or lean on them,
everymorning i wake up with numb fingers on both hands which can take half a day or even a few  days sometimes to go away, making some things a little hard to do at times,
but my dr has said at present it is something I have to live with.


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RE: Ulnar nerve - 3/20/2008 8:21:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Could be an impinged nerve in your neck. Try a massage therapist or a chiropractor

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 3/21/2008 6:14:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Most nerve damage from bondage will eventually heal. It may take longer than one or two weeks though, since nerve recovery takes a very long time. I wouldn't recommend exercise or massage without a definitive diagnosis though -  if you don't know what you are doing you may increase damage, or prolonge recovery.  Just learn from this episode and be careful with bondage. As a sub I understand the desire to please and not complain, but nerve damage is nothing to sneeze at.

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 5/1/2008 3:18:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Although, not much help with a cure, hopefully my study on upper body bondage nerve damage might prove preventative for others: http://www.esinem.com/msic/nerve damage part 1a.pdf

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 5/1/2008 3:24:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		For anyone that is interested, I am 10 weeks out from when I was injured and I am happy that things are getting better.  I would say that I am about 40% better.  My doctor told me that it may take 3 more months to completely heal.  I wear an elbow sock/pad, and slept with my arm straight at night for the last 10 weeks.

I had an EMG and nerve conduction test that confirmed that I had nerve damage (pretty serious) but that it appeared to not be permanent.  An EMG test really sucks because they shock you and measure the time it travels in the arm.  You sit waiting for the shock and then your whole body jumps up and down.  I was sweating like crazy.  The nerve conduction test is actually easier but they do insert needles in your arm and measure the same thing.  Hurts a little bit more but I would take that over the zap.

If the nerve did not calm down, surgery was the only real route to give the nerve more room to heal.

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 5/1/2008 3:41:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is touchy for me, My ulnar nerve was severed in a work accident, and never fully healed, I have the Pope's claw(still an electrician).
first: GO TO A DOCTOR!! as was pointed out it could be something else, and you haven't the 4+yrs medical training,
of course I'm being hypocritical here cause I've told many doctors they were wrong, and what the problem was, and I was right. In this case I found good doctors
and I followed their lead.that and my primary care physician right now is a good one.
Anywhy, the nerve takes time to heal, it takes a month for it to start to heal, then it creeps up it's path 1" every month. It runs up the pinky side to the knuckles, then across to the index finger.
as it attaches to each finger, it starts running up each finger. If you've lost motor control the nerve needs to reattach in 2 years, otherwise it will probably never reattach( this was found out in WWII,
soldiers were comming home with injuries,and not getting the scar tissue removed in time for the proper healing. But sensory nerves, there was no time limit. they can reattach many years later, and it would work)

Added: Eat well balanced meals, stretch, keep full range of motion.

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RE: Ulnar nerve - 5/1/2008 3:59:18 PM   
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You are exactly right.

1.  Go to a doctor - this injury is a disability.  You cannot have a moment without discomfort.
2.  For the first 4 weeks, the pain was the same or got worse.  After 4 weeks, it started to get better.  My doctor said that it was great that I felt better every day.  I corrected him and said every week.

Tom

ps, the worse problem is that I cannot be tied up with my hands behind my back.  I really enjoyed being tied this way, and being forced to service.....  that is another story.  Have no desire to masturbate either, just does not feel the same with numb nuts, I mean fingers

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