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How many subs share this situation? - 7/14/2004 4:26:43 PM   
anthrosub


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Status: offline 		i thought i would ask other subs out there if they feel they are in the same boat. i know everyone has a unique set of circumstances but thought maybe it would be helpful to see how wide spread they exist. Please understand from the outset that this is not a whining post.

To describe my own situation...i'm alone and have been for about 3-1/2 years. i think the need for companionship is one of the most powerful drives we all experience whether Dominant or submissive. When i began my journey into this lifestyle in earnest over 2-1/2 years ago, i quickly got a rude awakening as to how muddy the waters are when it comes to contacting others who are clear about who they are and what they are looking for. So i made a few mistakes that i feel are probably common experiences to any newbies.

Times moves on...today i feel i have a good understanding of myself and what this lifestyle is actually about (apart from the variations found from one person to the next). i know i have a submissive nature and would be best suited in a relationship with a Dominant partner. i feel this so strongly, i refuse to enter into another "equal" or "vanilla" union. i know i have rights, just as Dominants do. At the outset, it's completely reasonable for me to have preferences about who i wish to serve and how i wish to offer myself. As much as i wish to enter into a D/s relationship, i still have enough common sense to know it's not constructive to get involved with someone rashly.

Although it's invisible to others online...i know i'm genuine and have long since separated myself from those who are toying with this lifestyle. There's nothing inherently wrong with that as long as it's done in an upfront manner but that is generally the exception and not the rule, so i have to contend with being lost in the haystack so to speak. This is one of the two most frustrating aspects i find myself facing each day.

Probably the most significant hurdle for me as a submissive male, is the ratio of Dommes to subs. Their availability is even further narrowed by Their own success. It makes sense that an accomplished Domme is not going to be someone who is without a slave at Her feet for any long period of time. Next, add the issue of geography...those in the lifestyle are spread all over the place and seem to be concentrated in only certain parts of the country...most noteably NYC and surrounding areas, Florida, parts of California, Washington State, and Chicago. From there, they seem to be few and far between.

i live right next to Washington, DC and work three blocks from where the Black Rose holds its weekly meetings. i've been to the meetings, only to find mostly Doms in attendance. The region appears devoid of lifestyle Dommes and instead is inundated with ProDommes for the most part. i attribute this to the large population of potential "clients" making for a target rich environment.

So, to sum things up for comparison to others, i find myself ready, willing, and very available but far from any potential Partner in terms of location and faced with having to make myself truly visible to a very small group of available Dommes. And this doesn't even begin to address whether we would be compatible or not.

my questions are...how many others find themselves in a similar situation in terms of genuiness and difficulty in meeting a Partner? Is there anything i'm not listing that could be added to the circumstances? Are we destined to grow to be lonely old men because we are in the wrong place or have too many things working against us?

i will say once more, this is not a whining post. Please don't knock someone who's simply trying to understand his own situation. It's possible for a person to be so down that even good things begin to feel painful and it doesn't help matters to have insult added to injury.

With respect,
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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/14/2004 6:06:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: anthrosub
my questions are...how many others find themselves in a similar situation in terms of genuiness and difficulty in meeting a Partner? Is there anything i'm not listing that could be added to the circumstances? Are we destined to grow to be lonely old men because we are in the wrong place or have too many things working against us?


I've been single for just over a year, and have arrived at a Really Good Place in life (intentional caps ), where I'm now open and ready to look at exploring a new D/s relationship. I've started looking around (hence the reason I joined here), but haven't had much like finding men who are looking for what I am. I get lots of responses from people wanting casual sex, which is not what I'm after right now.

I think the most important thing is to continue to grow into the person you want to be, and to continue to be happy with who you are. I believe that relationships and love happen when you least expect it - and you're certainly more attractive as a person if you're not focusing on wanting a relationship. Being independant, assertive, in control of yourself and able to get what you want out of life is appealing to many - and it will be appealing to the man I choose to get involved with next.

I'm prepared to meet men who don't match my criteria, and to give them a go 'just in case'. I refuse to lower my standards or compromise on them (that's why fidelity is a must), but I'm ready to have it happen when it does. I'm enjoying being single so much right now, that I almost don't want to share my happiness with anyone else. I guess I'm still in my selfish phase (no kids, no partner, it's all about me!)

Just keep positive and be happy with who you are and where you're not. That will attract the right person to you.

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 12:25:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		i too am alone right now....but and i say but, you have to have faith and a belief that you will find her. remember it only takes one! Enjoy your solitude, work on your self and take some time for introspection.
i think that being a happy, complete person with a rich life is attractive enough, be who you are and have faith.

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 12:28:22 AM   
PassionateNights


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Status: offline 		and btw kiki...thaty is just the coolest photo.....very cool

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 12:55:13 AM   
Sinergy


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Status: offline 		Hello,

I have to say that the nights being single are the most difficult.

I left swing dancing tonight because watching all the couples out on the floor
with their significant other for some reason reminded me that I dont have a
partner.

I would not say this is a "sub" issue, this is a human issue.

Sinergy

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 1:01:20 AM   
UtahGoddess


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Status: offline 		anthrosub,

I know you posted this to receive responses from fellow submissives, yet I felt compelled to reply. If my reply is unwanted, simply ignore.

There are a lot of statistics out there that show a glaring imbalance between Dommes and male subs. Some estimate the numbers as high as 100 male subs to every FemDom. Keep in mind those surveys have a very sweeping definition of "submissive" which includes everything from sensationalists. fetishists, roleplayers, masochists, etc as well as submissives.

It has been my experience that men who wish to submit to me and focus on my happiness outside of a scene (IE submissives) are few and far between. Therefore I don't hold much credence to the statistics in regards to a long term relationship. Those statistics are more accurate when taken from the viewpoint of scening.

Also....if you are dismissing a potential partner because she is a ProDomme, you may be missing an opportunity for partnership. Most ProDommes I know are also lifestylers...like myself. My professional life is seperate from my personal world, yet I am Dominant in both. If you want to get a ProDommes personal attention......see her as a woman first and a Dominatrix second.

Finally.....keep attending the local munches and groups. Some Dommes attend the meetings infrequently or come only to see certain topics or presenters. By attending often and becoming "known" in your local community, you increase your odds of finding a partner.

Good luck

Ms Sandi

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 2:18:32 AM   
kiki blue


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quote:

ORIGINAL: PassionateNights
and btw kiki...thaty is just the coolest photo.....very cool


Thanks :) Having a friend doing a photography course and needing a model = great sexy pics for me!

But to keep this on topic - the happier you are with yourself and where you're at while single, the higher the chances of meeting the right person.

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 10:19:18 AM   
January


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Status: offline 		Hi anthro,

Yes, I was lonely once. My man was in California, and I was in Boston. It was for a year and one half. I hated it. My misery had nothing to do with bdsm.

Okay, so here comes the part you might feel is picking on you.

When you write, "I know what I want", do you say that because you are afraid somebody is going to tell you to shut up and go vanilla? Or are you saying that because now that you've figured out what you need, it's time for the world to shape up and deliver?

The last would be whining, so I'm going to assume you're aren't meaning that at all. However, this vanilla thing (you never said it, but I'm going to comment on it anyway) deserves some thought, IMO.

There are plenty of dominant women who think they are vanilla. But rather than want a man to "serve" them, they want a man to "spoil" them. No, these women won't be going to munches. They won't know the nomenclature of bdsm. You say, "hi I'm a sub," and they'll run. But that doesn't mean you can't have a happy union with one of those women.

Certainly what I'm suggesting is utter nonsense if you are interested in heavy D/s, or SM.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, imagination and flexibilty counts for a lot in finding happiness in bdsm, and more importantly, in life.

January


P.S. Are you an anthropologist?

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 1:35:32 PM   
ManeSlave


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Status: offline 		Hey anthro....

Go with Miss Utah's advice! Don't rule out Pro for now. Many "Pro's" do seek fulfillment from their subs... especially ones with whom they "click" and are loyal to on a long term basis. i am "involved" in such a situation now and we have also had wonderful times outside of the dungeon!
Now, don't expect something for nothing! It is your (and my) "obligation" to contribute to the financial well-being of the Mistress,
and for the divine privelege of serving Her! You also have the excellent opportunity to experience several to ensure you find the one with which both you and She best meld. You must, of course, be honest and genuine (sounds like you are), be sincere in your submissiveness and
desire to serve (again sounds like you got it), and don't be afraid to get out there and try!!!
Personally i have experienced (Gee, i guess i lost count) probably up
to 12 to 14 professional Mistresses in the past 15+ years and each was both a wonderful and different experience! (There were NO bad ones)!
The most visits to the same Mistress up to my present situation was three. None, of course, even came close to my current Goddess who has permitted my presence before Her (Gee, i guess i lost count here also)... more than a dozen??? times, in the past year and a half! God, i hope She keeps me!
Now here's the good part! i know from posts from subs on some old..(very old) message boards that there ARE some very genuine, caring, and excellent PROFESSIONAL Dommes in D.C.! They are listed on the Max Finch Directory in D.C..... maxfinch.com me thinks.
i would NEVER reveal any Dommes name on a public board, but if you're interested, i might give you initials in a private request. Anyway, that's all... looks like you were looking for hope and there is hope to be found..... just gotta look in all the RIGHT places.

ManeSlave

Additonal... i HATE bad spelling and i'm the worst, but i don't see any spell checker on this thing. If someone can tell me how to do it i would appreciate.... apologies for any misspells on this post!

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 1:48:55 PM   
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Additonal... i HATE bad spelling and i'm the worst, but i don't see any spell checker on this thing. If someone can tell me how to do it i would appreciate.... apologies for any misspells on this post!


Collarme doesn't have a spell checker. One way to do it, especially with a long post, is to compose it in a program that has spell check then copy and paste it here.

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 2:11:01 PM   
ManeSlave


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Status: offline 		Thank You proudsub. Too much trouble though. I guess if i continue
to post it'll be with errors.... oh well! And if anthro checks back.. It's
maxfisch (no "N" instead it's "S")... Silly spelling actually!

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 3:34:20 PM   
anthrosub


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Status: offline 		Hello and thanks to everyone for their suggestions. i definitely need to reply to much of what's been said.

kiki blue...i'm very happy you're content with your freedom and have been there for some time now. But at this stage in my life, i'm more than ready to surrender myself. Making dinner for one gets old after a couple years. You are right about things appearing when you least expect it...that's always been the way things have happened for me.

January...my stating that i "know what i want" can be taken as saying "i know what i want out of life." i don't have any illusions about the world conforming to my needs. On the contrary, i wish very much to put myself into an environment where i can show what i have to offer and be seen. The problem as i stated in the beginning is that there doesn't seem to be much opportunity where i live.

i've made a promise to myself to seek out munches in this area. i've also placed an ad on a vanilla site hinting at my orientation by mentioning the book "Different Loving" in the profile text. So far, i've recieved one query as to what the book is about and as soon as i replied, contact ended. Even so, i agree there are probably a lot of Dominant Females out there who aren't involved in the lifestyle per se and maybe this will lead somewhere.

i remember reading a survey a couple years ago that said roughly 25% of the population in the U.S. practices or has been involved in some level of BDSM. There are roughly 300 million people in this country, subtracting the children i would think that would leave at least 40 million out there. One thing i've always pondered is why the community seems to be concentrated only in certain areas around the country. NYC, San Francisco, and Florida is explainable but the rest is a pure mystery to me. Where is everyone?

i appreciate everyone's suggestion at looking into meeting with a Pro and seeing what happens. This was actually my first introduction to the lifestyle over 10 years ago. i had a great relationship with a Pro Domme i met early on. But the fact that it was never heading for a relationship eventually brought it to closure. This is something i can't seem to get around...i want very much to serve someone i'm bonding with and visiting a Pro just feels so artificial. i don't think i can handle many cycles of "being there" only for a couple hours and then Poof!...back to reality.

In the past two years, i've met three married Dommes, two Females who were essentially looking for someone to buy them a house, and four Females who simply wanted to wear the pants but had no interest in the lifestyle beyond that. i met one Domme and things were developing wonderfully until She discovered She has a serious heart condition and decided we would just be friends (we still are). The rest (roughly half a dozen) were people who for various reasons were essentially dysfunctional and would have been self-destructive to become involved with.

Oh, and to answer January's question...i have a degree in (cultural) Anthropology with additional learning in philosophy, metaphysics, science, and dabble in reading about the nature of what all this is (life). i guess you could call me a renaissance man. i taught myself computer programming while in college and that's what i do for work. i went to college for the sake of an education...not career training.

i greatly appreciate everyone's input!

anthrosub

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 3:46:45 PM   
angelthighhighs


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Status: offline 		sigh... i was divorced when i was 23, i'm now 47... in that time i had to raise kids, go to school, support them, take care of a mom that was dying. i was able to examine myself during this time and to know what i needed and who i was. i didn't have much time for dating or anything and it didn't bother me too much at the time. now, my kids are all grown up and i started exploring this lifestyle, i felt like i was home. in some ways i think i lived in a fantasy because i thought finding a Master would be easy and life would be happy ever after... omg was i wrong. there are many good Doms out there, many i have become friends with, enjoyed many discussions with. but finding the right one for me has been a long hard journey. there have been a few times i've thought i found him........ only to be mistaken. sometimes i've wanted to just give up on everything. forget that i'm a submissive and that my soul yearns for one to surrender to....but then i would be denying myself and in a way i would be letting life win out. when i lived in NJ i use to belong to a few groups, some were groups of people that had met online. i still recommend munch groups and i also recommend those that are uumm a bit on the brave side to perhaps find others perhaps from online and plan a public place to meet and meet in a group. i found many that were perhaps not as brave to meet one on one would go to those type of things besides it sorta takes pressure off of people. you're going to meet everyone, not just one person. if you don't hit it off with that one...perhaps another one you might.

i wish all searching best wishes and luck.

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/15/2004 7:50:07 PM   
Laura


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Status: offline 		We aren't in the same area but this (Toronto area) is also a place where there are a lot of groups. There are a lot of guys (m subs were what I was looking for) on this site. I found most were not what I was looking for. Every one I emailed to wanted a Domme for hire, not me. They didn't care who I was, only what I could do for them. When I read profiles here the subs list all kinds of things that hold no interest for me. Several turn me off completely, maybe if I was a pro Dom... but I'm not. I'm just me, a woman who likes D/s and was hoping to find someone to share that with. I've given up now. But, for you I'd suggest either toning down your interests to what you really must have versus what you think sounds interesting. Also, look at women who are not hugely experienced, without a following of subs. We are out here. We're just getting tossed aside a lot.

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/16/2004 2:07:36 AM   
MzBerlin


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Status: offline 		Hey, Y'all (especially anthro)-
I hear ya, brother!! At least from this side of the gender spectrum. I focused on getting my stuff together and BAM!!!! He Who Must Not Be Named popped up, and not even in a BDSM manner. It JUST HAPPENED. I know I'm being gushy, and I don't want to brag. I just want you to know that it's POSSIBLE. One thing that I've been doing while I work on myself (taking classes, keeping busy, all that stuff, too **you go, everyone!!**) is post positive affirmations around the house. (I am such a hippie/Gen Xer) Several of mine are- "Expect A Miracle" "We are all Buddhas" "Peace" "Growth" "Wisdom" and "It's OK." I know this sounds silly, but I believe what you see/hear can shape a part of your outer self. (If this is to spiritual, I'm sorry. I'm Buddhist and General Spiritualist, and it affects my outlook.) Meditation is great. You have to send the universe a message. And keep your energy positive in the process. It's circular.
I hope that makes sense and that y'all feel free to interpret it. It is only my opinion, and what I believe. Things happen when you least expect them and it is least convienient. The things that matter most, I mean.
*IMNSHO*
As Always
Berlin

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/16/2004 5:51:32 AM   
January


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Status: offline 		Hi anthro,

Ow! Women who want you to buy them a house? I'm sorry. I didn't mean that kind of spoiling. I was thinking more a long the lines of foot rubs and errands...

I'm really glad you're already trying some vanilla avenues, too.

January

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/16/2004 7:30:30 AM   
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I hear ya, brother!! At least from this side of the gender spectrum. I focused on getting my stuff together and BAM!!!! He Who Must Not Be Named popped up, and not even in a BDSM manner. It JUST HAPPENED. I know I'm being gushy, and I don't want to brag. I just want you to know that it's POSSIBLE. One thing that I've been doing while I work on myself (taking classes, keeping busy, all that stuff, too **you go, everyone!!**) is post positive affirmations around the house. (I am such a hippie/Gen Xer) Several of mine are- "Expect A Miracle" "We are all Buddhas" "Peace" "Growth" "Wisdom" and "It's OK." I know this sounds silly, but I believe what you see/hear can shape a part of your outer self. (If this is to spiritual, I'm sorry. I'm Buddhist and General Spiritualist, and it affects my outlook.) Meditation is great. You have to send the universe a message. And keep your energy positive in the process. It's circular.
I hope that makes sense and that y'all feel free to interpret it. It is only my opinion, and what I believe. Things happen when you least expect them and it is least convienient. The things that matter most, I mean.
*IMNSHO*
As Always
Berlin


Hello,

I work this psychotic job which is basically on-call 24x7x365. I was living a life of no sleep schedule, no outside interests, coming home, perhaps sitting on the internet at whatever time I was not working (8am, 5pm, 2am, etc) and then going to sleep.

I have met some wonderful people on the internet, but only one or two really clicked with me. I looked at my life and thought "is that all there is?"

Went to a local BDSM club and found myself driving home depressed having spent the entire evening watching people scene their partner. It simply reminded me that I dont have a partner, and the available number of single women there was fairly limited.

So I did an internet search and found a place (www.atomicballroom.com) to go dancing. Went dancing, had a lovely time being able to actually hold and move with a real human being. Got involved with a local club (www.ocswing.com) and started going to other venues. Then my dance teacher tells me to get my ass out into dance class for things like Rueda Swing, Salsa, and Ballroom when I show up early for my EC Swing class.

I usually grumble and drag my sorry keister out there to dance. Some day I may actually have talent at it.

Bought books and read them. Bought more books and have not yet read them. Redid my apartment. Bought furniture. Started branching out into other aspects of cooking. Went next door and offered my neighbor a glass of wine, and now she invites me over to play gin rummy with her friends every so often. Was invited by another neighbor to a discussion group as part of her PhD on psychological aspects of religion and spirituality. We have not met, yet, so I dont know what it actually means, but I hope I dont sound like too much of an inarticulate cretin.

To me, my life is what I make it. I am sure by putting myself out there in the Real World I will end up finding somebody to make/be made complete.

Although it could just be me, and I could be wrong, but I refuse to go meekly into the fading of the light.

Sinergy

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/16/2004 3:42:09 PM   
anthrosub


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Status: offline 		MzBerlin...since you're a psychology major and involved in Buddism, i was wondering if you've read "The Positive Psychology of Buddism and Yoga" by Marvin Levine? It's really an excellent walkthrough of eastern understanding of the human mind. i highly recommend it. A friend of mine met the author and described me to him. His reply was, "He sounds like he's a Siddhartha." i was flattered.

Sinergy...Your discription of life as You've experienced it reminds me of my own in a lot of ways. Sometimes i think the Internet is an unintended trap regarding this lifestyle. What i mean is, nobody's going to go out tomorrow and find a public place where they can meet others practicing BDSM. So it seems logical to look here where people can safely explore and contact others. But since it's not as simple as that, we get drawn into expending our energy here online instead of out there where there are living, breathing human beings.

anthrosub

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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/16/2004 4:01:40 PM   
lara


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Status: offline 		Be true to yourself, you can have fun with vanilla relationships but you will always know they don't give you what you need. You can persuade/force a vanilla to Dominate but the sadness will fill your heart when you know they aren't there with you. Takinig second best yes, it serves a purpose, you cum:-) but reality strikes how happy can you be thinking about what could be. So my comment is are you willing to settle so you won't be alone.


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RE: How many subs share this situation? - 7/18/2004 10:19:26 AM   
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MzBerlin...since you're a psychology major and involved in Buddism, i was wondering if you've read "The Positive Psychology of Buddism and Yoga" by Marvin Levine? It's really an excellent walkthrough of eastern understanding of the human mind. i highly recommend it. A friend of mine met the author and described me to him. His reply was, "He sounds like he's a Siddhartha." i was flattered.

anthrosub


Anthro-
I will check it out. Currently on my nightstand is "Awakening the Buddha Within" by Lama Surya Das. I recommend it highly.
As Always
Berlin

PS- I am also currently working on getting my certificate to teach yoga. What synchronicity!!

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