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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 5:29:26 PM   
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I am in awe.

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 5:32:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I am in awe.
it's spelled I-O-W-A...simple mistake

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 5:36:57 PM   
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 You can leave your nose on  


S’not on the program……..

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 5:39:41 PM   
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See, this is why I hate everyone equally ...


Damn, you sound exactly like an old Buddy of mine.  He hates everybody, just some people less than others.  LOL

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 5:42:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: catize

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 You can leave your nose on  


S’not on the program……..


What do ya think the nose is for?

Jeff

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 5:48:58 PM   
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What do ya think the nose is for?  


Everybody nose:
The answer, my friend, is blowin’ in the tissue


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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 5:54:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: catize

quote:

What do ya think the nose is for?  


Everybody nose:
The answer, my friend, is blowin’ in the tissue



As long as it's not on my belly..............the pancake makeup is bad enough!

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 5:55:07 PM   
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Women who dislike other women, it's quite obvious that there's something wrong with them.



It's all probally just a line of crap these women say, to make themselves appear to different from all the other Hoe's and Bitches.  LOL.. 

Mmmmmmm.... 

Does it really matter anyways, is it not all about shutting up and fucking in the end?

Oh damn, my male sexist pig mindset seems to be running amuck trying to bask itself in an abundant troth of whores. 

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 5:57:47 PM   
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i was here for the abuse.  did i come to the wrong site?

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 6:04:10 PM   
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Shut up before i kick your ass...that better?{{{i'm sooo not a Domme}}}

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 6:34:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

Shut up before i kick your ass...that better?{{{i'm sooo not a Domme}}}


That is not such a Domme thing, my ex used to say that to me all the time.  she always claimed to be vanilla. 

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 8:34:06 PM   
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This may be a time i should sit by and be quiet but nahhh not in that mood tonight! :)!
 
close-mind·ed (klsmndd, klz-) or closed-mind·ed (klzd-)
adj.
Intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others; stubbornly unreceptive to new ideas .... just saying :) 
There is also concern that femicide of Aboriginal women is taking place in Canada. Five hundred Aboriginal women have been reported missing or murdered since 1980, a disproportionate proportion compared to non-Aboriginal women. According to sociological studies, these women are seen as easy targets because their race places them at the bottom of the social and economic hierarchy. Many of the missing women have been dismissed as prostitutes and their disappearances have gone uninvestigated. A major factor in bringing international attention to Canadian women was the murder of Helen Betty Osborne in 1971. ....(Hmmm they were probably just sluts who cares right)


According to the Organization of American States's Inter-American Commission on Human Rights: The victims of these crimes have preponderantly been young women, between 17 and 22 years of age. Many were students, and most were maquiladora [workers in foreign owned factories]. A number were relative newcomers to Ciudad Juarez who had migrated from other areas of Mexico. The victims were generally reported missing by their families, with their bodies found days or months later abandoned in vacant lots or outlying areas. In most of these cases there were signs of sexual violence, abuse, torture or in some cases mutilation.According to Amnesty International, as of February 2005 more than 370 bodies had been found, and over 400 women were still missing.In November 2005, BBC News reported that Mexico's human rights ombudsman José Luis Soberanes as saying that 28 women had been murdered so far in 2005.Despite past and current unsolved murders, in August 2006 the federal government dropped its investigation. (murderers who dislike women...not saying you would kill but hate and stupidity does just that everyday)
 
The practise of female deselection in India could be attributed to socioeconomic reasons. There is a belief by certain people in India that female children are inherently less worthy because they leave home and family when they marry, a system known to anthropolgists as patrilocality. The high number of "dowry deaths" (about 7,001 were reported in India in 2003), in which brides are murdered by their grooms' family members or commit suicide after suffering abuse and neglect, is also a major factor in gender preference. (dead women can not lie, whine or be weak...not even whore around. they kill them before they have a chance!)
 
Point being this thread sucks! Who cares! i was raised to be subservient to men, but my father ultimately loved women. We just had a different place. But treasured for what we could do. i am a mother, a wife, a full time nursing student, i work, keep my house, pay the bills, and take care of my husbands wishes as well. i do not complain, i do it with joy (not a sign of weakness)i do not view myself in the way you mentioned women. i submit because it is how i was raised, it is what i believe, not due to feelings of being worthless, weak, stupid, dishonest. i would feel a Man would be happy to have someone who could stand on there on two feet, but choosing to "crawl, kneel, submit fully" much more amazing than one who is confused, confrontational and ignorant with a mask of strength on. But ignorance is bliss honey whatever works for you!! Just know stupidity like this kills...Jews, Homosexuals, Men, Women, Children, Blacks, Native Americans, i could go on and on. It may not be you but it starts somewhere with screwed up people just like you. i am appauled that they would a stupid thread of this nature to continue.




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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 10:50:11 PM   
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I am gonna be shocking and answer the posters question.
Stunning I know.
I have a Mom and two sisters. All are accomplished strong women with post graduate degrees and good lives, I admire them and love them and think they are great.
I have watched them walk through the pains of life with grace and dignity-they sure as heck are not weak
More than 1/2 of my close friends are women, from all walks of life. Again I choose quality people to share my life with. If they aen't about something on the inside, things like decency, integrity, giving etc..I have no time for them.
I admire most of the women I am friends with, I respect them as people and their opinions. I for sure respect the ones in my family.
I like strong people, I like people of character, I like intelligent, vivacious, passionate people, male or female.
People who aren't that way don't last long in my life.
And you know what, that has zero to do with me dominating women. I sure as shit like the hell out of doing that too.



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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/6/2008 11:26:55 PM   
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I'll chime in on this one.

I feel women in general say they want honesty but cant handle the truth. They demand respect and to be treated as equals then look down on the man that gives that too them. I think woman say one thing and mean another. I think when a woman is allowed the ability to make a man feel abligated to her whim, she is no longer with the man she really wants.

I have watched a woman whom I never thought capable of deciet to her man do exactly that and more. I was not romantically involved with that woman.;She was along time friend. Her husband was  the perfect husband by any womans magazine standards. He was handsome, built like body builder. Kind, loving and good father. She left him for a guy that just got out of prison for the 3rd time. I searched the entire world for 6 years to find the woman I thought would never betray me. We dated for 6 years and were married for 14. Her and her boyfreind conspired to take over my company and destroy me. They nearly succeeded. I got the kids and the business in the divorce. She got the rest of her life to look over her shoulder. Only two things for certain in this life. Death and Taxes. And Im not the IRS.

Women do not function on the same level as men. What woman would let a man she hates fuck her? Any woman want to say that she would want to fuck a man she hates? But guess what, most men would fuck a good looking woman even if he hated her. We dont think the same. I couldnt be paid any amount of money to sell out my best friend. But a woman? Give her a good reason and she is on the move. Women hate deeper, cause more destruction and vent rage in ways that make absolutely no sense to me. It bothers me that we may actually soon have a female President. But on the other hand, we have too many nukes that are going to waste and places like Iraq and North Korea need big parking lots cleared with them to make room for Wall Marts.

So to the OP (Action) . There is my input to your question. Im a man as you requested and my oppinion is as honest as it can be as you also requested. Now I have a request. Since you and I seem to see things in the same light, how do you compare yourself against the masses of other women in which you (we) have delcared is the way we perceive them? Do you think your different or the same?

TC

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/7/2008 12:09:14 AM   
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Okay so I am not a man and the OP was pretty adamant about hearing from men for her learning/research. I am going to throw my two cents in anyway.

I feel women rock! I think women are amazing. I love the way women function. Women bring so much to the table all the time. They are magnetic in nature and for the most part (generally speaking) are so much stronger than our men. Women have the ability to stand and face their fears. Women's emotions are generally much more a part of them and at the same time they have not often been encouraged to express, or accepted if they did--express deeply felt things. I feel the 'sisterhood' is alive and well. Women who would not take another woman's man, for example. I feel there are a lot of women out there who love their women friends deeply and are emphatic with the sorts of things both men and women go through and are present for each other in a very supportive and nurturing stance. I am not saying there is not gnarly stuff in there needing sorting out, but I dont feel this is the fundamental layer of who women really are, I see it more as an aberration in our history which will balance out in the end.

I feel women have not fully blossomed as the beings that they are. I feel men and women heal each other. I believe when two people who are bonded in love, make love and orgasm simultaneously, they genuinely create Light.

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/7/2008 12:25:05 AM   
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I love chicks. I love fella's. Some of each are arseholes, some average, some fabulous. Saying one gender lies, is weak, blah, blah, blah is like the song from primary school:

Girls are weak, chuck em in the creek,
Boys are strong, like King Kong.

As none of us is at primary school, this is a stupid fucking thread.

Now where's the free drink I was promised???

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/7/2008 12:41:29 AM   
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Action

 I admire what you are trying to do in this forum. I think its a great intelectual debate but many people are not so great at seing things from outside themselves. the topic here is on the same level is applying logic to drivers on the freeway. it is difficult to give you an honast answer becuase even though you are open to it this is an open forum and all guys are forever burned by the laughing chick click that scorned us the first time we were turned down. (though I admit I have probably scorned a women or to in the same fashion, so I am not without Guilt). with this in mind we are hesitant to answer is there is no simple way to reply and we will be forever remembered for what we say. howevdr I do find that its alot like a Jerry Signfeil episode were no matter how things go there is always somthing wrong and it is never the same thing twice. that is my greatest frustration with people no matter how much I learn it never aplies to the next.

if you are curious in stories I will share with you outside the forum my email is listed in my profile.

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/7/2008 12:52:33 AM   
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Im not a male dom but may I offer my opinion sis if you dont mind?

PERSONALLY, I feel alot of women are if not kidding themselves are acting as how they feel this society wants them to act. Its not really popular (not counting the bdsm aspect of life here) for women to be submissive to their husbands anymore. Like we arnt "strong" if we wish to stay home and take care of our children, insted we are supposed to juggle, kids, marriage, jobs, school and everything else and still be happy and supportive to everyone and oursevles. Can you see how alot of us are confused and maybe cheat/lie/whatever to (not saying anyone is doing this actively but more subconciously) have some sort of controll over our lives, and see something happen because of a direct action that we took?

not really an answer perse but more of another question to add to this thred.

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/7/2008 1:59:29 AM   
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Good question Action,

Personally, I'm a reflexive person.  I tend to respond to people in a manner I think is most appropriate for that person.  Another term is social chameleon.  I like that term, because no matter the color the lizard takes, it's always the same lizard.  I'm most at east, when those around me are at ease.  I'm comfortable in a tuxedo, combat fatigues, or beat up jeans and a T-shirt.

Emotionally, I don't let very unstable or dangerous people close to me.  So any woman I allow close enough to really have an impact on me, is someone who's earned my trust over time.  I don't trust quickly, and I don't easily open up.

Women are people, and I have a strong distaste for any line that says "most/all women are ....." because invariably it's only true when it also applies to men (like "most women are afraid of being hurt.")  I find by focusing on how a specific woman behaves, specifically to me, her sex ceases to be a determining factor in our relationship.

Well, unless I'm fucking her of course.

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RE: Men I want to hear... - 3/7/2008 3:06:36 AM   
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Since so many have you have been kind enough to answer my question as honesty as I dare you could be to this original post I'll answer some of the above questions as to my own feeling about myself and on this question of gender. Step back, again a warrning no one has lived my life, no one has seen what I've personaly been through but me so again I expect no pitty, I expect no understanding this is something Im doing for myself for a reason.

How I view myself:

Im happy with myself. The two woman in my life my mother and later my step mother are the greatest examples of how not to be woman to me. I believe it is not in our nature to lie, to cheat, to betray, to any of the moral things I find wrong with most everyday woman today, but rather we do it do compinsate, we are in my mind raised as most feminsist would say in a very "Male driven" world. Even the woman around us incourage us to take on more male disinctions, some believe we should be without men, others like my mothers twisted the men around them into weakness. I won't go into it so PLEASE don't ask but I was abused for 20 something years, most of it minor, some involving the ploice photographing the violence, it all adds up to this.
Dispite all thats happened to me, I feel the natural things I had to do to cope where not in fact natural at all, do I blame myself for thier actions? No. Never. I still call my mother to this day, tell her I love her, even my step father who had to watch me through alot of it all, me and my real father don't speak becuase of how twisted his wife has made him against me.
The point being is the reason I feel nothing toward these woman but lingering bitterness and no more then that is that I feel I am better then they are. I will never become what they where to me to others. I actually don't seek to tear down woman but rather I feel there has to be another way, great woman have lived and died with atributes I aspire to, honor, bravery, ability to adapt, strength, to need only myself.
Don't be mistaken in thinking I am not loved, I have the unindearing love of a man, a husband, a step father, brothers, male friends and more. NO one will fully get the extent of my reasons but I figure I'll give you a glimpse if it'll keep back the people who feel Im doing this for wholey "trolling" means not that seeing the ladies get up in arms wasn't fun. But again, the worst thing you can do is assume anything about anyone, including myself.

Thank you.

Action


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