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RE: Domestic service and power exchange - 10/1/2005 3:57:20 PM   
Rover


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Status: offline 		Yeah, I thought I was pretty clear when I said:

Question is, is the domestic service an expression of the ongoing control inherent to the relationship (denoting a power exchange relationship), or simply something done for mutual pleasure over a given time frame (denoting a scene).

But in case further explanation is required, domestic service that is inherent to ongoing control in a relationship (as you described), would denote a power exchange.

In case further edification is required, I never said or implied that kinky sex was required for a power exchange relationship to exist (in fact, nowhere in my post did I mention sex at all). I know of several sexless power exchange relationships.

I'd be pleased to elaborate further if anyone has some more words they'd like to put into my mouth (I have a big mouth).

John

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RE: Domestic service and power exchange - 10/3/2005 5:54:02 AM   
wantinaSireorSir


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Status: offline 		i agree

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RE: Domestic service and power exchange - 10/3/2005 3:44:46 PM   
sunshine333


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Status: offline 		one of the joys that i have found in slavery is its simplicity. as Mistress Melissa stated ... she provides her boy with structure and security in return for his compliance and eagerness to fulfill her needs. it's so wonderfully simple.

i tend to be very service oriented. but by service i mean any way that i can make my owner's life easier and more enjoyable. and there's an art to it ... much like the artistry of being a geisha. anyone can keep a clean house with food on the table (or hire someone to do so). but a slave will do these things in the most loving fashion ... and with pride and grace.

the exchange of power, in my opinion and from my own experience, is for each to know their place ... the Master/Mistress being the head of the house and the slave a servant. household chores and menial tasks seem to be a humbling reminder of a slave's position.

Lady Julie Ann ... the slaves who claim to want nothing in return ... hmm ... sounds questionable to me. i've never met a person who will do anything absolutely selflessly. if nothing else we get to feel good about ourselves for having been helpful.

humbly,
sunshine


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RE: Domestic service and power exchange - 10/3/2005 8:31:12 PM   
LadiesBladewing


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Status: offline 		In a case where both parties are clear about wanting a solely domestic service arrangement, the power-exchange presents itself in clear expectations from the Dominant and praise and affection lavished on the servant for providing good service. In addition, it is important the the Dominant appreciate the service being offered. Feelings of being "slighted" and needing more often develop because one party or the other wasn't clear about what the relationship would entail or what the needs were that would have to be met OR because the dominant is unappreciative of the service offered. Small affections, clear instructions and well-timed discipline when the service does not meet expectations help to keep the dynamic vibrant and provide a nurturing, growth-provoking experience for the submissive, and a joyful sense of comfort for both submissive and dominant.

Lady Zephyr

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RE: Domestic service and power exchange - 10/4/2005 4:53:30 AM   
MistressMelissa


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quote:

However, presuming for the moment that all that exists is the domestic service itself, I'd say that they're engaging in a scene (domestic service being no different than a flogging or anything else... just something enjoyable for both, engaged in for a finite period of time).


I took this statement to mean you equated service with a scene. If I miss understood you, then I appologize but you seemed pretty clear.

quote:

But in case further explanation is required, domestic service that is inherent to ongoing control in a relationship (as you described), would denote a power exchange.


This line tells me you understand what I was trying to express.

Thank you for your responses,

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RE: Domestic service and power exchange - 10/4/2005 6:04:55 AM   
nephandi


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Status: offline 		Some pepole like to be of service to others, they feel furfilled when aloved to serve, and do the best they can at it, others dont realy like service or only like it during play, some do so simply to pleese their Dominants, not liking it at all and some dont do domestic service, to eatch his or her own.

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RE: Domestic service and power exchange - 10/4/2005 6:12:29 AM   
krikket


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Status: offline 		Yanno, wolfie -- When i read your posts i'm often reminded that my submission isn't all about sex, per se, but it is about unconditionally offering that part inside me that they find pleasing, that makes their life easier, The fact is, that is where i find my joy, comfort and completeness as a submissive and woman. My other needs/wants desires can be fulfilled in other ways, but not this part. You said it so well there's nothing more i can add, except thanks...

jimini


quote:

ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

"I".........AM no strings domestics service.
i do not have fetishes so i am NOT a do-me-boy.
i have NO sex OR romance because She is married.
so WTF am i doing here?
SHE cares if i live or die. NO ONE ELSE ... EVER has. my elders didnt want me. my teachers hated me. my wives were a damned joke.

so THIS is why i am dedicated to HER and HER only.
SHE controls MY money, and my daily life..from when i wake to bedtime. SHE cares about me emotionally.. mentally and physically.
and HER answer here is;
SHE said to type in;
"She is happy because She gets the-control"

wolfie
any questions will be answered if you do not understand something.

thank you




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RE: Domestic service and power exchange - 10/4/2005 10:05:32 AM   
lonewolf05


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Status: offline 		Well said wolfie. Your level of service & devotion is hard to duplicate. Liver treat??
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liver? argh! make it beef/chicken/turkey treat and i will sit up with my paws in the air, wag my tail and be happy.......

sits up, puts one paw up, cocks his head sideways, ears up, waiting..

lol

woofie
thank YOU for the compliment


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RE: Domestic service and power exchange - 10/4/2005 10:07:49 AM   
lonewolf05


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quote:

Lady Julie Ann ... the slaves who claim to want nothing in return ... hmm ... sounds questionable to me. i've never met a person who will do anything absolutely selflessly.

=========

ya just did. waves his paw...

woofie

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RE: Domestic service and power exchange - 10/4/2005 10:09:10 AM   
lonewolf05


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Status: offline 		krikket
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Y V W........

woofie
wags tail and walks away

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