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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 12:30:08 PM

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What a great question… about time…lol

Okay every one is different and every relationship has a different twist but I can give you what my roll is in the relationship that I am in.

Basically my sub is everything to me. I am responsible for her physically and emotionally meaning that I make sure she is taken care of medically, I make sure she is emotionally grounded, I take care of her financially (although I don’t have to she is a career woman).

She is my best friend who can pretty much come to me about everything. If she has a need I am the solution to that need. I protect her with my life if need be without hesitation. I show her attention and make sure that I am aware of her well-being meaning that I make sure I pick up on those little cues that woman do without talking. Every day when I get home from work I pull my daughter into my lap and talk to her about her day (she is six). After that its my subs turn… both of them get twenty minutes of completely non divided non interrupted attention from me to discuss the best part of there day and the worst part.

If lets say the house work gets to much then she is allowed for instance to get a maid to help her with the work so she is never over burdened. The house we live in is my home and I am responsible for all things involving it and I am responsible for the behaviors in it (kind of like a soldier being responsible for the people under him). I take care of anything to do with the cars including gas and all things done as far as paying bills and keeping track of back accounts ect. Is done by her by my direction. She does not have to ask to spend money and has been known to spend as much as $400 a week in spa visits.

In return for all this she does everything I ask of her. As part of taking care of her, I make sure that what I do is not abusive at all to her… If she has any emotional problems or thoughts of any kind of what it is that we do then its totally open for discussion however I always get my way but I do listen. She is expected to be grateful for the life she lives and the options she is given.
That pretty much sums it up.

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 12:31:03 PM

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Steel,

I liked a lot of what you wrote, but calling it a job? isnt it about enjoyment at the end of the day?

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 12:33:11 PM

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My question to you is, what are the responsibilities of a Master?

There is no universal answer... attempting to find one is a waste of one's energy. One needs to find their own answer to this question that may or may not be similiar to others view.

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In my opinion, a Master should take care of His slave just as well as a slave does her Master. (Obviously, in different ways.) Am I wrong?

Some might think of this as wrong ... some might agree.... Regardless... what matters is how you would like it in Your relationship.. and not in Everyone's relationship.

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Isn't it the responsibility of a Master to care for his slave as he would any other prized possession?

May and then again.. Maybe Not

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You can love your car and ride it fast and hard but you have to take the time to repair any damage you may cause to it, and also make sure you keep up on regular maintenance that it will need to run properly, correct?

So they say... but... If I can afford to buy a new car whenever I want... maybe I don't bother with maintenance and just get a new one when the old one is starting to look bad for use. It might seem harsh... but how do you explain people that are in and out of relationships like guys in and out of a whore.

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do we not deserve to be appreciated or treated with kindness when deserved? Or are slaves only possessions, inanimate, like a car? Something to be used and expected to function properly when needed?

for some... they might feel this... some might feel it's not a question of getting what they deserve... but getting what their Master desires to give them. There is no right way or wrong way... this just a way of doing it... some it works and for some it doesn't... I think it good that one finds what works for themselves instead of trying to fit everyone into the same box.

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So, my question to you all, is how does a Master best care for his slave and her needs?

Their is no universal answer to this... looking for one is again a waste of energy. Best to understand how an individual cares or not cares for their slave. My way is not everyone's way.... but my way does work for Alandra and Kyra. Just might be one of the reasons' they are with me... but not the only reason.

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 12:35:15 PM

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Steel,

I liked a lot of what you wrote, but calling it a job? isnt it about enjoyment at the end of the day?

does that mean calling it a job means one can't enjoy it? I kinda of thing calling it a job is irrelevant with regards to enjoyment. Some enjoy their job and others not so much

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 12:36:14 PM

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You can love your car and ride it fast and hard but you have to take the time to repair any damage you may cause to it, and also make sure you keep up on regular maintenance that it will need to run properly, correct?

Let's face it, we are human, not robots.
do we not deserve to be appreciated or treated with kindness when deserved? Or are slaves only possessions, inanimate, like a car? Something to be used and expected to function properly when needed?

i should probably let my Master answer this but i'm home because i had to take the car in for maintenance.

Playing devil's advocate for a moment.... my Master's first girl, a Heritage Softtail, is not capable of taking care of herself, because she IS an object, she cannot drive herself to the Harley shop and fix herself. Were she actually capable of this, Master may well expect her to do so.

Because i am NOT an inanimate object, i AM expected to take care of myself and to take care of all of my Master's other possessions and to take care of Him as well. Why else would He need a slave? Would be easier to get a dog. i say all this because too often a submissive or slave goes to a Master/Mistress looking for a meal ticket and freedom from all responsibility save "service" as she defines it. i'm not saying that's what your mindset is, just a word of caution to many who do feel that a Master must take care of her or him.

In my opinion, a good Master does not abuse His possessions, He does not treat them wantonly so that they break and become unfit for use. He assigns tasks and expectations based on capabilities. He does not try to dry His socks in the toaster for example and neither will He expect me to perform beyond my limitations or capabilities. Because i am a human being and not a toaster or a motorcycle, He expects me to behave like a human being. It is not His duty or responsibility to be in love with me or to be responsible for my physical or emotional well-being. That He is in love with me and that He does care for my physical and emotional well-being is icing on the cake.

The one thing that i believe is the responsibility of a Master is to be open, honest, and communicate clearly and with consistancy His expectations and His goals for the relationship.

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 12:42:28 PM

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Steel,

I liked a lot of what you wrote, but calling it a job? isnt it about enjoyment at the end of the day?

Granted.

But I am also the kind of person who knows that any relationship is work. It takes Patience, Persistence, and More Patience. So in that direction it is a Job. One that I took as a Career. LOL. See again we go about on definitions I don't see a Job as being something I hate I see a Job as being the thing I do that Affords me the Ability to do what I want to do. In that a Relationship is a Job in a way because the relationship I have affords me the ability to be the person I want to be.

However I never really called it a job I simply said it is My JOB to so this or that. I have to go back and reread what I wrote to see if I misspoke but either way this will clearify. I see it as a responsibility and I see most responsibilities as jobs. Not in a negative way but rather it is how I define the word responsibility.

Understand?

Steel

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 12:46:49 PM

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Yeah, sorry often when i read things they make it sound like a chore, esp on this site, the amount of ads that look like they are recruiting an employee rather than a PARTNER, it kinda makes me a bit sad. All relationships take work of course, but when i get to the stage that i am jaded enough to refer to it as though its overly hard work i think thats when I would have to walk away.

I know I have had a few of these picking up on things you say Steel I think it may just be the formality that comes across in your writing more than anything else, sorry im not picking on you, I often agree with you its just sometimes the way you express things can be taken to be a bit stuffy. Thanks for clarifying though.

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 12:47:55 PM

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My Responsibilities are Omnipresent and Ever Changing. To me the sign that I am doing my Job comes from how rarely I have to correct or pamper her. I see it this way because if I am holding up my responsibilities she is never doing anything that is beyond her abilities and I am not useing her too hard.

If this is what you meant by Job, No what I meant was the way I know I am meeting my responsibilities I just used JOB to shorten the concept. I do not see being a Master to my slave as a Labored Position. I am there by Choice, but then again I am at my place of employment by Choice as well.

Take it as you will. LOL

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 12:55:54 PM

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What makes me wonder a lott is that subs/slaves often talk about love...and Masters/Doms always often about it beeing a hard job (not mentioning emotions).
(propably because we need to look tough)

It is good to think, but soemtime it can do damage also..when you don't let feelings/emotions some space

(not aimed at any-one)

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 1:00:22 PM

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I agree JustMe696

I am married to my slave and we have a UM together.

I love her VERY VERY Much. But we discussed My responsibility to her. My Responsibility to her is NOT to love her. It is my Desire and Choice to love her. It is what makes me WANT to continue my Responsibilities to her.

But I agree with what you said.

I often myself wonder why so many Masters are so afraid to allow themselves to love thier slaves.

I do not see Love as a weekness I do see it as something that changed our relationship but it made it stronger not weaker.

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 1:02:49 PM

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that is nicely put. It takes strength to let yourself fall in love as Master. It can have great impact.

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 1:22:55 PM

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Steel,

I liked a lot of what you wrote, but calling it a job? isnt it about enjoyment at the end of the day?

does that mean calling it a job means one can't enjoy it? I kinda of thing calling it a job is irrelevant with regards to enjoyment. Some enjoy their job and others not so much

No you can enjoy your job but i dont like the idea of relationships being refered to as Jobs its silly no one is more noble in what they do they do what they do because it makes them happy, not for payment

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 2:02:43 PM

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It's the same as in every relationship. People just try to glamorize M/s in an attempt to overcome the stigma attached to it.

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 2:12:48 PM

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See I don't see Job Meaning something one does to get payment. However I do have to admit that the relationship between a Master and a Slave is a Symbiotic one. Each is only there because of what they GET from the other, This is the true Nature of ANY relationship. It isn't payment it's the nature of I am with you because I get from you what I don't get from anyone else even if that thing that they get is only a precieved notion such as happiness. or a Physical Notion Like Sex.

It is really individualistic. I tried really hard not to break it down for everyone because there are people who are with thier partner because the sex is good or thier financial situation is what is being wanted.

I made it about what I thought My Responsibilities were not about why I think we do the things we do.

I do it because I really don't know how NOT to.

Know what I mean.

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 2:21:55 PM

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Certainly physical abuse affects your emotions and can cause you to loose your self-esteem and self-respect. Knock you down, lift you up, knock you down, lift you up [......................].

Of course. Physical abuse is not something that should be hidden behind the mask of D/s. However,

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Master's who hit are brutes. Stay away if you don't want your esteem going south.

I just wanted to point out that there is a difference between hitting and physical abuse. If you don't want to be hit and he does it anyway than yes that is abuse. But someone who desires a Master who hits them is not necessarily heading for a sour relationship. I wouldn't be with Master if he didn't hit me.

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 4:18:26 PM

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glenin,
Your own post answered your question. You have a solid idea of what a Master needs to be for you. That is all that matters, to find the one that will compliment your needs as you can compliment his. Subs should always keep in mind that they may be submissive, but they choose to whom they will grant that submissiveness.

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 4:20:20 PM

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Slaves are more valuable then a winning lotto ticket,
They are more valuable then 10,000 shares of Microsoft bought in 1979
They give of themselves fully and completely- How can you put a price on that ?
I would not trade mine for a billgates credit card (Limit 4 midsized african countrys.)

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 4:43:45 PM

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It's the same as in every relationship. People just try to glamorize M/s in an attempt to overcome the stigma attached to it.

Yea I know. Try the KISS method.... Keep It Simple Stupid. No ones getting out alive anywho.

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/14/2008 10:13:29 PM

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My question to you is, what are the responsibilities of a Master?

Oh, the old debate of good master or bad master. I think you will find that there is not a list of "responsibilities" for a top because it varies from relationship to relationship.

I feel that trust, honor, communication, responsibility, dedication, respect and commitment should be the traits of a good top. Please keep in mind that some people don't want that and others feel it interferes with a TPE relationship. Some people like to be treated like an object and want/expect the actions and ideals behind that to be real.

Anyone looking to enter into a relationship with a top should make very clear their wants, needs, expectations and desires. Don't fall for the "Bow before me when you read this email slave" crap, if a "top" doesn't want to communicate with you as an equal before entering a relationship then he doesn't deserve your submission.

This is all personal opinion... they are my ideals... others will be different...

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RE: A Question for the Masters - 3/15/2008 1:16:25 AM

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Slaves are more valuable then a winning lotto ticket,
They are more valuable then 10,000 shares of Microsoft bought in 1979
They give of themselves fully and completely- How can you put a price on that ?
I would not trade mine for a billgates credit card (Limit 4 midsized african countrys.)

uhmmmm a good slave... yes, but a slave is human too, can cheat, can manipulate...can hurt...
they are like other people..they have the same abillities...
(the good ones are very loyal though..that is endlesly valluable)

Not that I would compare a human life with any amount of money...but they are not "more" special

well talking about money..slaves can be sold ;)

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