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differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 8:54:33 AM   
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Is there a difference in House slaves vs Other slaves? Does one have sex with them or is that all in the arrangement agreed upon in the begining? What happens when a slave drops from a Reg slave to a house slave? DO the first agreement still apply?

I was just curous because i have read many posts that use different terms for slaves and their *jobs* in the household.

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 9:28:01 AM   
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Is there a difference in House slaves vs Other slaves?

If you want there to be. Generally, a house slave is there for domestic service only, and a "general slave" is there for "general service" OR it could be the slave that lives in the house versus a slave that doesn't.

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Does one have sex with them or is that all in the arrangement agreed upon in the begining?

One hopes that no matter what relationship it is, that the arrangement was agreed upon in the beginning. Some have sex, some don't, whatever you prefer.

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What happens when a slave drops from a Reg slave to a house slave? DO the first agreement still apply?

It's not a drop, it's a change. Some slaves take great pride and love in being domestically inclined and it's certainly NOT a skill that I have.

If the relationship changes, then you can change it however you want.

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 1:55:38 PM   
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House slave? You mean I could have such a thing as a domestic slave to work in the house and not feel obligated to have sex with her? What a wonderful concept.... If that's what that means.

I have often wished I could find such a slave... to live here as "kinky roomie/ house slave" to help out in the pressures of My life. I have so much on My shoulders that cooking, cleaning, washing, folding, and shuttling My child to football, cub scouts, and such is sometimes more than the old camel's back can bear.

God that would be wonderful! Anyone knowing of such a slave willing to serve without having sex with Me.... please do give her My email addy? lol

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 3:23:40 PM   
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Not me Sir...i need the sex and lots of it( with one person of course)
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House slave? You mean I could have such a thing as a domestic slave to work in the house and not feel obligated to have sex with her? What a wonderful concept.... If that's what that means.

I have often wished I could find such a slave... to live here as "kinky roomie/ house slave" to help out in the pressures of My life. I have so much on My shoulders that cooking, cleaning, washing, folding, and shuttling My child to football, cub scouts, and such is sometimes more than the old camel's back can bear.

God that would be wonderful! Anyone knowing of such a slave willing to serve without having sex with Me.... please do give her My email addy? lol



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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 3:44:50 PM   
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I think we are getting into this one size fits all mentality, again. There are no rule books that apply to ALL M/s relationships. There are individual agreements and even written contracts that are adapted to fit...but no Community Endorsed Rule Book.

I could call myself an apartment slave or a car slave or a whatever-slave...the bottom line is the rules need to be set up between me and the person I am "slave" to. No one else need have any say in it.

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 4:05:05 PM   
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sweetpetjenny wrote

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Not me Sir...i need the sex and lots of it( with one person of course)


lol in your case, jenny, I would gladly keep you "overemployed" heh heh.

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 5:15:44 PM   
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I have wanted a house slave..Someone to come in and keep up my house. Nothing more, nothing less. I hate housework and am not the best at it..It just makes sense to have someone else do it for me..lol..It has nothing to do with me being submissive/slave..Just practical!

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 5:54:06 PM   
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Who would not want that, a person that you only needed to feel and show a bit of love and afection and the house get cleened, i want one to. What a perfect birthday gift for my Master.

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 6:00:56 PM   
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From my own perspective there are House Slaves (Slaves owned by House Iron Bear) who under the control of my Wife/FC, yet as are all things in my home, my ultimate responsibility) and there are Personal Slaves (These wear either My Collar or my Wife/FC’s Collar) both types are part of our lives. There are many reasons why a slave may wear a House Collar in my home. If however a slave is designated as a “Domestic Slave” she will wear a House Collar with a marking on it designating her as a Kettle Slave.

I’ll not enter into lengthy descriptions of the whys and wherefores of how each operates for which you all may now breathe a deep collective sigh of relief. However, other than slaves in personal collars, all slaves, i.e. all slaves wearing a House Collar are available for sexual use as and when either I or my wife/FC so desire. (Its part of the original deal).


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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 6:11:51 PM   
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What aboute guests? i am trying not to sound like a pervert here but it hit me, how common is it that House slaves are open for sexual use by guests?

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 6:23:06 PM   
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quote:

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What aboute guests? i am trying not to sound like a pervert here but it hit me, how common is it that House slaves are open for sexual use by guests?


Theyr'e kajirea. They bed who they are told to.

Realistically if I have a trik who loves being screwed by what ever swinging dick nearest to her, she is most likely to be the choice .. "House Whore" y'know. At a gathering if the triks are nakid to the waist, all bare flesh is available for touching By other Frees. If sex is going to be involved that safe sex is used or the dog will be having aditional sausages for a treat (still attached or detached). End of the day I am responsibile for the well being of all in my home and we do life in a Western Country on Earth not in the Middle East or S/e Asia or even S/America and certainly not on Gor.

However I am NOT a Brothel Keeper (Buggers wont give me a licence to open "The Fancy Fadu" (fadu = Gorean for C**t).. I cant even afford to open a Gorean styled "Cyote Ugly" bar....

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 6:31:14 PM   
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How do one go aboute ensuring safe sex is performed. my Master want to make me available, at least when we get more lifstyle frinds but the problem is i worry aboute them not acepting my requirement for safe sex, i mean i spoke to this fellow once and i said, yes, my Master will leand me out but there will be safe sex, and he says, oh well can you not just use P pills, and i say well no becouse pregancy is not what i fear most, what i fear is desise. Oh ok he says but do that i can come on your face and i say no, that means no contact whit you body fluids, period, it do not only endanger me, it endanger my Master to, and he called me alot of mean things, so i am a bit worried. But i am babeling, insomnia will do that to you.

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 6:38:28 PM   
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1. All triks in my home will be on some form of contraception. (I favour the implant but that is up to the trik and GP).
2. All members of the Home will have regular medical checks.
3. Any male wanting sex with any member of my home will wear a condom or forget the sex.

This is all discussed and agreed to by all parties. Guests can’t agree, they are no longer Guests. The try to force or coerce a trik to do anything other than safe sex will be immediately removed and will not be welcomed again.


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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 6:42:33 PM   
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It can get a bit uncofortable i think somtimes, i am a person that hate saying no, but when it come to the health of me and my loved ones i can not make compermises. i also have a feeling this can get worce if i get the planned sterilisation, you see i should not have babies for i carry an enormeous risk of getting an autistic child and while i dont see anything wrong whit being autistic, i could not care for one.

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 8:03:52 PM   
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quote:

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Oh ok he says but do that i can come on your face and i say no, that means no contact whit you body fluids, period, it do not only endanger me, it endanger my Master to, and he called me alot of mean things, so i am a bit worried. But i am babeling, insomnia will do that to you.

Gosh I'm a huge slut and have lots of sex with multiple partners.

Number one rule is safe sex, no exceptions.

If someone doesn't want safe sex, they get no sex.

And it's up to ME to protect the property. I can smile and laugh and have a great time with a guy, but until he puts a condom on, there's simply NO sex, and there's NO negotiation on that point. Get comfortable with saying NO, and being firm, there simply is no room for leniency here and it's your job to do it well.

It continues to amaze me how stupid these men are who try to not have safe sex.

And as for your original question, it's fairly rare for a person to be offered up for sex to anyone who's willing to fuck them.

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 8:35:52 PM   
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So the different labels for the differnet slaves are Gorean? Or are their other thigns as well that make the difference?


Just because inquiring minds want to know



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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 8:43:00 PM   
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Emerals, i agree fully, and i know it is somthing i must work on, i do say no, no way and get lost when it come to unsafe sex, but it is still uncofortable.

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/27/2005 8:51:51 PM   
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How do one go aboute ensuring safe sex is performed.


You have the right idea, just not the conviction to follow through. It IS your responsibility to protect yourself and your Master. Like ES2 says, "No condom, no sex. Period." Maybe your Master would let you wear one of those tee shirts that shows the cartoon of a bolt chasing the nut and the nut is screaming, "No, not without a washer." Then when you're asked about sex you just smile and point to the front of your shirt.

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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/28/2005 2:00:40 AM   
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So the different labels for the differnet slaves are Gorean? Or are their other thigns as well that make the difference?


Just because inquiring minds want to know




Actually teapaw, in the Gorean books you will find a whole variety of labels for slaves, usually designating the primary job. A kettle slave is one who usually handles kettles and pots (Domestic or kitchen hand if you will), A bath girl would be found in the public baths and were there to attend the Frees who came to bath. Their duties included massage. A coin girl was one who was available for hire for sexual reasons for a coin. A paga slave was a girl serving in a page den or paga hall (think of a bar girl/waitress). A pleasure slave was bread and trained in the arts of pleasuring her Master. Some say they were the most valuable of all. I may add here that a Gorean slave in the books was never permitted to candle coins but would have the coin either placed in a pocked sewn into her tunic or placed in her mouth.

However labels for sub/slaves are not particularly unique to Gor. I surmise that suitable labels were around for as long as slaves has been. I tend to use the ones I mentioned in an earlier post such as a personal slave, a house slave or a kettle slave. However if I had a slave whose primary task was to look after the car and drive me about I’d find some amusing label for her as it suited me. I suppose I could call her a borsk wagon slave but I’d need to work out the ratio between borsk power and horse power for a car. If I had a slave who was also my bodyguard or similar I’d probably refer to her as my slave sleen (you need to read and understand about sleens to see why). I guess that each slave owner may well use personalised labels if they desire.



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RE: differences in slave titles - 9/28/2005 3:00:49 AM   
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i adore sleens, i wonder how a weresleen would look, now that is for catwoman, move over batman you are aboute to be eaten.

i do say no, as it is my resposibility, i still think the situation is uncoforable though, hehehe the T shirt was a good idea ;)

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