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thetammyjo -> RE: Dommes & penetration (5/15/2007 12:42:47 PM)
I don't need a tool to feel in control -- I have my fingers to wind in his hair and my voice to order him to go faster or slower, deeper or more shallow. On another level, I find it very odd that in general we see het intercourse as the male getting something that the female gives. On the biological level it seems to me that it is the opposite situation -- the male if he comes will deposit his sperm into her, her body may use it to help create new life a situation he has no control (of any type) over after that initial shoot. He gives, she takes.

pixelslave -> RE: Dommes & penetration (5/15/2007 1:03:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NCMISTRESS I have found this discussion very interesting. I have recieved an influx of many emails from subs/slaves that are looking for a Domme. I read profiles along with the emails and it always perplexes me that the majority of them all have this laundry list of thier demands things they like, dislike without even being asked. While I think this approach on a first contact is inappropriate and obviously unappreciated by the vast majority of women on CM, sexual compatibility would seem to be important to learn at some point in time if both parties are to be happy & content in the relationship. You do want a happy sub around to serve you don't you? [&:] quote: If they were a true sub/slave then they would only have on their profile is thier experiences and a note saying whatever you wish. So why is this an issue? Because none of us are "twue" anything! It's all relative. There are degrees to which people are either dominant or submissive. No man or woman is so totally selfless such that they have no needs or desires of their own! Otherwise, why would they even have the desire to choose you over some other available dominant?? [8\|] - pixel

DiannaVesta -> RE: Dommes & penetration (5/15/2007 1:04:45 PM)
I wanted to quote so many people and found it to be an excellent thread. It really all boils down to dynamics of a relationship and in authentic female domination it's about the pleasure of her, however she see's fit. So if SHE orders he boy to spank her then he better damn well hop right to it. Lots of women like flogging and spanking not because they are submissive but because it's erotic and feels good. Now on the subject of female supremacy this is a whole other issue. Now we've all been down this LONG ASS threaded debates about female supremacy so this is NOT about it being right or wrong. This is in hopes of helping you to understand the mindset and what it might mean to us/them. Female Supremacist, such as myself, believe in the spiritual process of the divine feminine. It has nothing to do with hating men or gong Hitler on the male race. It's a spiritual dynamic where the feminine is sacred. The woman/Mistress/Goddess is a direct manifestation of the Divine Feminine so in essence she is an aspect of Goddess. So in his eyes you are sacred and his body penetrating you is a violation. He will never feel worthy to do such an act and would prefer the OTHER rituals of adoration such as kissing the ground you've already walked on (lol- kidding sort of), body worship/adoration, receiving your golden nectar from the holiest of holy places where all life comes from. See what I mean? Very few men have penetrated me and its not because I don't enjoy fucking. I do. Actually I prefer fisting and normally have a woman lover to do this with. There are special males I teach to pleasure me this way and once in a blue moon I will allow penetration, however I do not ever allow a man to climb on top of me and fuck me. WHEN it does happen I prefer being on top and while he is still inside me I enjoy peeing. It's the whole ritual I'm into more then anything else. There are some men that will actually fall into depression over being made to penetrate a woman. Without heavy doses of subjugation they don't feel right. They need to be controlled and dominated because its part of them & they truly do believe that women are superior.

DiannaVesta -> RE: Dommes & penetration (5/15/2007 1:05:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo I don't need a tool to feel in control -- I have my fingers to wind in his hair and my voice to order him to go faster or slower, deeper or more shallow. On another level, I find it very odd that in general we see het intercourse as the male getting something that the female gives. On the biological level it seems to me that it is the opposite situation -- the male if he comes will deposit his sperm into her, her body may use it to help create new life a situation he has no control (of any type) over after that initial shoot. He gives, she takes. Very nice way to put it.

earthycouple -> RE: Dommes & penetration (5/15/2007 2:24:15 PM)
I once had a live in who felt the same way...he said he felt like he would be "stabbing me". I am married, and don't typically engage in penetration with subs...but I'm not against it and would if the situation in my home was right for it. Personally I feel it's like anything else...if I tell you to do it, damn it, do it. If someone tells me this is a hard non negotiable limit, that's fine as sex is not first and foremost on my mind anyway. I'd never "toss aside" someone I care for and want simply because he doesn't want to engage in intercourse.

Halley -> RE: Dommes & penetration (5/15/2007 5:45:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MizSuz If I am sexually intimate with my property it is because it is what pleases me. I happen to like very rough, animalistic sex (giving and receiving). I see no conflict with my dominance in this. It's what I enjoy and as the dominant it is my prerogative to dictate and even make demands regarding how my enjoyment will be manifested, and what form that will take. I too enjoy rough sex and I am not about to restrain myself in order to prove my dominance.

Najakcharmer -> RE: Dommes & penetration (5/15/2007 5:50:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo I don't need a tool to feel in control -- I have my fingers to wind in his hair and my voice to order him to go faster or slower, deeper or more shallow. Sure, but I can't reach around nearly far enough to smack his ass without something convenient in my hand. And I surely do like to smack his ass. :)

forluvofmaria -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/10/2007 9:06:21 AM)
I as well have had both sides of this coin, some feel that they lose the perspective of Me as a Top, some feel it is the greatest reward granted. Personally, I will get My way irregardless. Sometimes just making slut bill wear a strap on and giving Me all the pleasure I want...I can be in control no matter the trappings with or with out props of any kind. I always have My voice, low, deep and seductive.I agree with Many of the Dommes, if it is Not about what I want, when I want it, then Next contestant, please...My way, My pleasure, Always! ~Maria~

thetammyjo -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/10/2007 9:20:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo I don't need a tool to feel in control -- I have my fingers to wind in his hair and my voice to order him to go faster or slower, deeper or more shallow. Sure, but I can't reach around nearly far enough to smack his ass without something convenient in my hand. And I surely do like to smack his ass. :) Tools and toys are nice but are they necessary?

slavekal -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/10/2007 9:39:54 AM)
You can have it all. Ms. Mlicious has intercourse with me on a regular basis. But she only lets me orgasm when she wants. Usually, when she is done, she pats me on the ass as a signal to withdraw and stop.

Shawn1066 -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/10/2007 12:14:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika I’ve had mixed feeling regarding this topic for a while now. So I open it up to all of you for your feedback. Let me explain a little further. When I was 27, I had a male sub my own age who told me that he would find it sacrilegious to penetrate me with his penis, that since he accepted male submission, he realised he gave up his right to ever penetrate another woman, as that would be a form of dominating her. At the time, I was quite perplexed. Since him I met a few men who have a similar perspective, though not so extreme. I don’t necessarily agree with this. And on another level, I don’t disagree entirely. I’ve reduced men to the state of a toy (either tying them up or making them remain immobile), referring to them as nothing more then a dildo for my pleasure. I’ve also strapped face harnesses with dildos to male & female subs. So far, I still feel in control. But what about straight up fucking? I’m not one to limit myself but I’m trying to reconcile the idea of a man actively fucking me and still retaining control. I know control is a mental thing and the act should never override the dynamic… Anyhow, as I said, I have mixed feelings about this. This may seem basic for some of you. This might be something you struggle or have struggled with as well. I’m eager to hear your perspectives/suggestions. - LA Anybody who says being penetrated by a male submission in regular sex is somehow allowing him to dominate her in some form... I just don't see how people see that. My Owner is utterly dominant of me no matter how she's decided to have sex with me. It's quite amazing how powerful she can be.

MsRaisingKane -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/10/2007 12:55:02 PM)
Ditto!!! If they don't like it they can see it as forced punishment but either way it's my Dominant pleasure. quote: ORIGINAL: forluvofmaria I as well have had both sides of this coin, some feel that they lose the perspective of Me as a Top, some feel it is the greatest reward granted. Personally, I will get My way irregardless. Sometimes just making slut bill wear a strap on and giving Me all the pleasure I want...I can be in control no matter the trappings with or with out props of any kind. I always have My voice, low, deep and seductive.I agree with Many of the Dommes, if it is Not about what I want, when I want it, then Next contestant, please...My way, My pleasure, Always! ~Maria~

Koala -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/10/2007 10:57:54 PM)
It all depends on how it's done. The male can still be the one doing the physical fucking, but as long as you're doing the mental fucking, you're still in control. When in doubt, slap him. [8\|]

twobtheone -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/11/2007 12:19:08 AM)
you are still in control because you are taking what is your right. you can make him taste himself inside you by making him clean you afterwards making sure that he gets everybit of his and your cum in his mouth and sallowing it

HeavansKeeper -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/11/2007 12:55:19 AM)
Since it's been bumped, I'll add... I found three traits over and over. 1) Many people saying many people would have varying answers. 2) Many people giving the same answer, effectively "Well.. Whatever floats your boat, but if you want cock take it." 3) Many people suggesting ways to re-establish dominance after being penetrated. I'm a very openminded person, so I find it hard to comprehend how having sex lowers a dominant's "absolute" power. Someone mentioned biology and how we can easily share pleasure. I take it one step farther: One member has a tab, the other a slot (this topic was kind of focused on heterosexual female dominant relationships, but lesbian submissives with strap-ons apply). ANYHOW. Tab and slot. It's not an act of dominance to put the tab in the slot, it's just the way of things. I liked the "Well, just look at it like the vagina consumes the penis." I know this sounds like I'm dogging on women who feel like they've lost power for being dominanted - I'm not. I just wanted to add how I would justify it if I were a dominant female with a submissive male.

NovelApproach -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/11/2007 3:02:44 AM)
Well this is an interesting topic. I personally haven't thought about it much, and don't see any problem with having my boy penetrate me. I remember reading something a long time ago, where sex was described as the man playing the role of a preist offering worship to his goddess by striving to please her, and the woman as the representative of divinity, receiving his worship as fully and joyfully as she wills. That's more or less how I've always looked at it. As for position, my boy and I spend an equal amount of time on top, and its not really an issue. When I'm on top, I'm physically in control -- he's tied up or being held down or something of the sort. When he's on top, he's doing all the work because I shouldn't have to. Either way we both have a good time and if he fails to please me in either position, he has to go down on me until I'm completely satisfied. ^_^ N

ShaktiSama -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/11/2007 5:50:15 AM)
Dominance is very much an issue of taking what I want. If what I want is every inch of him inside me...then I'm afraid I'll have to insist. And any woman can assert herself during interourse. That's what fingernails are for.

Boondoggle -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/11/2007 8:10:20 AM)
From my experience, it's quite easy for a woman to maintain control of the situation, fingernails or not. I've found that during heavily sexual activities my higher cognitive abilities are, how do I put it, dormant. Obedience comes very naturally in such a state. I think it would even be fair to say I'm especially eager to please. As nonsensical as the old notion of 'not enough blood for two heads' is, there's a lot of truth in it. I generally find I don't mind being 'taken advantage of' in that sense, either. In fact, I might even like it.

Machts -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/11/2007 8:16:40 AM)
Why is it so evil for a Domme to want sex her way? Nilla women do it all the time. So why freak out over liking a pole in your hole? Is it a sin?

thetammyjo -> RE: Dommes & penetration (12/11/2007 9:13:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Boondoggle From my experience, it's quite easy for a woman to maintain control of the situation, fingernails or not. I've found that during heavily sexual activities my higher cognitive abilities are, how do I put it, dormant. Obedience comes very naturally in such a state. I think it would even be fair to say I'm especially eager to please. As nonsensical as the old notion of 'not enough blood for two heads' is, there's a lot of truth in it. I generally find I don't mind being 'taken advantage of' in that sense, either. In fact, I might even like it. To paraphrase something my mother once told me: If you are doing it right, you both should be tired and unable to string even a few words together by the time you're done.

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