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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/25/2008 6:26:04 AM

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have you seen a doctor and have them run a hormone panel for you? you may have something physcially wrong with your endocrine system - at least it is something to rule out

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/25/2008 7:50:57 AM

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You have gotten some great replies here....as for what your doctor, an endo, or gyno, considers within normal range, is the great misunderstanding in womens health. They are holding you to a level within the "norm". Thing is, everyone is different,.....what is normal for you may not be for another women. It's fine tuning you, that matters. Did you know that unbalanced hormones lead to depression in women? We have had to educate ourselves in this country. Europeans have been on bioidental hormones for a while, plant derived, holistic. Here in the good ol' USA , it can't be patented, so no money to be made for the big drug companies~! Therefore the FDA will not approve for doctors to get with it, and they would rather have their reps make visits with their latest pills. As for PCOS, if you are an over weight women, you are producing more estrogen then you need.,Fat stores and produces it, then making you estrogen dominant, and guess what that does? It cancels out your Testosterone. You need to have some of this for a sex drive period. Excess weight also produces too much insulin, taxing the pancreas, insulin is such an important hormone, ..never mind what it can do to your thyroid. You may not have proper insurance, but, you can read, research, so when you go into a doctor he won't give you a band aide. At your age you should be in your prime.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/25/2008 9:03:14 AM

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DesFIP: I have been classified as Bi-polar type I with more depression than Mania. I am not on any birth control pills because personally I don't beleive in stopping conception from happening. The thing with my job is usually I work til 11pm, so when I get home and eat dinner and finally wind down enough to sleep it is like 1 or 2 am. Then I sleep till 11am and then have to wake up and get ready for work. I have never liked doing anything sexual in the morning...I hate doing something like that when I wake up and I am sore and still pretty much tired. I was on a new med but I took myself off it because of the really horrible mood swings I was having. They were bad and I could see them in my self...I can't work when I feel like cussing every customer I have out becuase they are getting on my nerves.

angelikaJ: I can't take the generic prozac...god I wish I could, but the generic I am allergic to, something about the fillers in it don't agree with me. And I do plan on discussing with my doc some sort of anti depressant and hopefully one that won't zap my sex drive anymore than it is already.

Moongoddess40: I have been diagnosed with Insulin Resistance and have been given metformin to even out my insulin and it has helped me begin to lose weight and has given me more energy than I once had I guess because my body is using the Insulin like it should. I have had my thyroid tested.. so it should be fine. With the no insurance problem I don't see myself finding another doctor anytime soon so I have to stick with this one and she is good at what she does at least she is the only one that listened when I told her about a blood disorder my dad had and that I have the indicators for. Its hard to find a doctor that is willing to treat you for your mental problems as well as your physical health.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/25/2008 9:10:00 AM

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When I was having a very bizarre drop in sexual energy (which for those that know me know it disturbed me more than anything else) my doctor actually suggested I try something more along the lines of pheremones. There were several easily available pheremone enhanced colognes and such which I believe can stil be found. The right ones helped quite a bit. The scent triggered something that made me WANT the rest, and it tok care of the short term sexual disinterest.
And the best part for me was it was non-medicinal. I hate taking medications if I can avoid them, and a few dabs of a cologne on me or on my partner did wonders.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/25/2008 9:23:02 AM

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is_it_possible_to_try_a_different_manufacturer
often_more_than_one_company_makes_a_generic_form...also..
Prozac_is_Lilly_I_think...
you_may_qualify_financially_for_drug_assistance_from_them
(esp_since_you_can't_take_generic)

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/25/2008 10:03:03 AM

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Moongoddess40: I have been diagnosed with Insulin Resistance and have been given metformin to even out my insulin and it has helped me begin to lose weight and has given me more energy than I once had I guess because my body is using the Insulin like it should. I have had my thyroid tested.. so it should be fine. With the no insurance problem I don't see myself finding another doctor anytime soon so I have to stick with this one and she is good at what she does at least she is the only one that listened when I told her about a blood disorder my dad had and that I have the indicators for. Its hard to find a doctor that is willing to treat you for your mental problems as well as your physical health.
It's good you have a female doctor you like~! Great~! Yeah, insulin resistance is common in women. Hey, have you ever heard of Testosterone cream? My girlfriend uses it to help with the sex life,....she loves it, and only uses it when she needs too with her husband. Oh and she got it from her gyno.Says, it stimulates big time.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/25/2008 10:20:09 AM

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Well Moongoddess, I have read about the cream and I read that it can cause some problem like taking testosterone pills like facial hair and deepening of the voice and acne lol don't know if that is something I want. I need to talk to the doc about things that might be an alternative to not wanting it and see how the percentages of that happening with the cream is.

angelikaj, do you know if there are more than one company that makes generic prozac because when I was on it it had just came available by generic so there might be more than one company that makes it now.

I am not much for holistic or non medicinal approaches where it will cost me money lol I am on a very tight budget and can barely afford the doc and my meds I have to have...so I am wondering if there is anything I can do cheaply to help shift my sex drive.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 3:33:47 PM

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My apologies to the op as I had not read the entire thread prior to posting. By all means if antidepressants are needed, then they are needed. It may be surprising, however, to see how the same symptoms are viewed by mainstream and alternative practioners. My alt. doc has saved me from myself and my hormonal rollercoaster. In the end, there is no way out of the expense of taking care of yourself and you may be surprised what health insurance and other plans will cover outside of the mainstream. Just a thought.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 4:01:56 PM

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Well if I had health insurance I would be taking better care of myself but I do not have any and can't get any for awhile you have to be either full time or be there for a few years part time before you get health insurance where I work plus I don't really have the funds available to me right now to get insurance.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 4:27:39 PM

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Has anybody on here experienced low sex drive due to stress and how do you handle it?

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 4:30:17 PM

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Well if I had health insurance I would be taking better care of myself but I do not have any and can't get any for awhile you have to be either full time or be there for a few years part time before you get health insurance where I work plus I don't really have the funds available to me right now to get insurance.

"I had health insurance I would be taking better care of myself".

Taken unfairly out of context as I have done, this sure sounds upside down to me. Shame on me for doing that.

Earlier in the thread someone recommended walking as a means to increase physical activity. That's really good advice and has the capacity to help a lot of problems.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 4:44:22 PM

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Has anybody on here experienced low sex drive due to stress and how do you handle it?

I am experiencing low sex drive second-hand (my wife is the "victim of stress") and I cope by spending time here on CM showing off and flirting and trying to fool myself into thinking I'm not cheating.

I think regular exercise is the simplest, least expensive and most effective means to start improving one's self confidence, outlook, heath, and well-being and is also a means of coping. I may never experience "sub-space" but I do hit a runners high on occasion.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 10:17:48 PM

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I think my low sex drive has to do with stress and depression and well all the factors that you read about on it. I am not positive but it seems most likely. Trying to find ways to destress my life.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 10:44:21 PM

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Excuse me, I have seen some ignorant posts on CM over the years, but "Moongoddess" you win for the most harmful, stupidest statements I've seen in ...well...a blue moon. Viz:

You have gotten some great replies here....as for what your doctor, an endo, or gyno, considers within normal range, is the great misunderstanding in womens health. They are holding you to a level within the "norm". Thing is, everyone is different,.....what is normal for you may not be for another women.

That's right. Tell the poor woman that "normal" in medicine is meaningless. Indeed, why go to a physician at all? They'll just measure your blood chemistry and give you some hooey about how your hormones are not "normal" and treat the problem.

Lets expand this brilliant analysis, Moon.   Indeed, miss, you say you are pissing blood and feeling like your lower body is on fire? Don't bother with that silly report that the white blood cell count is 10 times "normal" because YOU my dear need a WBC tailored to your unique chemistry. DON'T take the antibiotics -- learn to love and nurture your unique blood counts and temperature of 105. NO really...lobster red skin, vomiting and fever are normal for a special girl like you.

or...HEY, you?   T-cells down to the low dozens? That's NOT sick...that's your unique chemistry that some idiot male infectious disease doctor might call "immune system failure". But no, MOON knows better -- that is your special low T-cell count. Nurture it. Treasure it. Die from it.

OH, and the end of "Moon's" oh so helpful advice, when she says to the poor OP: "at your age you should be in your prime." YAH..that's nurturing, that's helpful.  Why not say: "There is something wrong with you and you are not like other women (i.e. ME) you poor sick bastard." Of course veiled in all of Moon's oh-so-helpful advice is her disdain and hatred for anyone overweight...maybe THAT's why the poor OP isn't "in her prime" eh, Moon?   Boy, someone's parents sure saved money on buying the "compassion" genes, eh?

Am I angry? Yes. I am angry. The OP asked for advice. The best advice she got was to see a health care professional. But the thread has been taken over by outrageous, irresponsible "advice" to disregard medical science and substitute some half baked holistic hooey. This could seriously hurt an ignorant reader who thinks there is one iota of legitimacy here. Sometimes you just gotta wonder why people are allowed to use a computer without being licensed.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 10:57:23 PM

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OP.. here's a site that may be able to help you with med costs: PPARx

Good luck, sweetie!

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 11:10:32 PM

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Fast reply: On the question of testosterone, there is some fairly credible research that "T" in doses scaled for women can increase sex drive and ability to orgasm. However testoterone, like any hormone, is very potent. The usual dose for a woman is 5 mg applied topically daily -- 1/10th of the usual male dose for T. replacement therapy. That is a TINY amount...if you've ever seen the little tube of daily testosterone gel a man uses, the woman's dose is 1/10th of that.   But be careful. Increased T levels may be implicated in certain birth defects, so its use in women of childbearing age is questionable. Also there are reported cases linking it to deepening of the voice, roughening of the skin, hair growth and (reportedly) increase in size of the clitoris.

A NOTE:   HORMONES ARE LINKED TO ACCELERATION OF CANCER CELL REPRODUCTION. Before embarking on any hormone therapy, your physician will check for prostate cancer (in men, obviously!) and breast, cervical and uterine cancer in women.   Taking hormones without medical supervision can be very dangerous.

As an aside, our helpful non expert (see my admittedly spammy spew, above) talks about "testosterone cream" for women. There is no such thing on the legitimate pharmaceutical market. T is administered either through a shot, or through an evaporative gel that men spread on their shoulders and upper arms so the hormone is absorbed. These gels are available under the trade names "Androgen" or "Testim".

Several "sex therapists" of various stripes and scams have compounded T gels and a creamy base and sell it online as a women's sex aid...the idea being you put the creamy stuff on the labia and rub it in.   In fact, most of these online products have little or no testosterone in them, and as the drug is quite volatile, even if there is some T at the beginning, the product tends to break down. You will see them marketed as "herbal testosterone" "Natural T" and the like.

Now there are legitimate therapies using T in women, but usually they involve a low dose of the gel applied to the back of the calf or thigh. I know, its not as sexy as the pussy cream, but its real. It is not impossible that someone could go to a compounding pharmacy and order a mixture of Testim in a creamy base...but why? You don't put it on your genitals...you would rub it into arms or legs as above. Seems to me someone is promoting yet another scam.

(By the way, in the interest of PURE SCIENCE, I and a willing volunteer (female) took a sample of Testim and rubbed it on our naughty bits. OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEE....it STINGS. Her report was much the same.)

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 11:19:34 PM

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If prozac wasn't so expensive I would ask the doc for it but I can't afford it.

Bupropion (Wellbutrin) is a good place to start, if that's in your budget range. Otherwise, a low dose of amisulpride (25-50mg) can be a significant help for some. It could be that you might benefit from testosterone (Intrinsa) for the missing sex drive, but it's more likely that addressing the depression is what will do it for you. Prozac is available as a generic, if memory serves, so you could see if that's in your budget range. Tricyclics tend to induce rapid cycling (which kind of makes it irrelevant that they're cheaper than water) sadly enough.

Wellbutrin is probably your best option, starting at half a low dose tablet and working up very slowly.

In any case, whatever you do, the mood stabilizer should be working properly first.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 11:24:38 PM

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Wellbutrin actually works as an aphrodisiac.

Not really. Mostly, people just notice the contrast between it and whatever they were on before. In some people it has a mild effect, but it usually only has a significant effect if the patient is on an SSRI, or if their expectations are high (placebo), or if low dopamine activity or disturbed prolactin/testosterone balance are the root cause.

There are others that are aphrodisiacs (Intrinsa, Survector, Dexedrine, Cabaser, etc.), but this isn't one.

It does, however, counteract some of what the SSRIs do to mess up libido.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 11:25:43 PM

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Well Prozac worked for me without having to add a mood stabilizer to it. That is why I want to take it again if I can find it in generic form that won't break me out in a rash and itching. I might have to go back to the generic liquid version which is what I was on when i was in the Mental hospital because they didn't have name brand prozac. It had a very nasty peppermint flavor but I think for my mental well being I can handle that. :-) and i believe it is only 4 dollars at wal-mart so that is even better.

As for Emperor...I don't beleive that holisitic rememdies are hooey in fact women's health is very varied in treatments and they find new things everyday and it is true what is normal for one may not be normal for another. But I will follow my doctors advice, I came here basically searching for some way to not have to turn to medicine for my low sex drive. The main thing I see is possibly reducing my stress and getting my depression under control which will lead me to having to take medicine anyway.

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RE: Low Sex Drive - 3/26/2008 11:28:06 PM

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Has anybody on here experienced low sex drive due to stress and how do you handle it?

By getting rid of the stress...

- "Doctor, it hurts when I do this."
- "Then don't do that."

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