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RE: Queen Bitch - 10/7/2005 9:44:54 AM

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I enjoy using the word cunt, but others find it an ugly bad wrong word.

Ugh! That word is worse than nails on a chalkboard to me. So is "the N word." I think it's because those were two of my father's favorite words and, to me, every time I heard him utter those words, I couldn't help but think he sounded like a complete and total idiot.

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RE: Queen Bitch - 10/7/2005 9:47:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: Evanesce
Ugh! That word is worse than nails on a chalkboard to me. So is "the N word." I think it's because those were two of my father's favorite words and, to me, every time I heard him utter those words, I couldn't help but think he sounded like a complete and total idiot.

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Exactly. And I can't stand "subbie" or "domme".

Language is a fickle thing.

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RE: Queen Bitch - 10/7/2005 10:07:49 AM

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We all have words that are hot spots with us. I have been called the "queen bitch" by Master Hawk and my daughter when the queen mother of all occassions rears her ugly red head, once a month.

Thankfully for everyone at home, that wont happen anymore, after Monday's surgery. So i guess i wont get to be a part of the special club, or share in the secret handshake. :( Hey Denise...can i still be an honorary member?

I don't like hearing the "N" word wether it is used in a negative manner form a caucasion person, or in a playful manner by other African Americans. But each to their own.

I was also taught in my training that for a woman to have a "pussy" connotes having hair. If that area is shaved, or hairless, it is then refered to as a "cunt". But some find that word nasty and ugly. I have no such problems with it.

Much like the word "cock", when referring to a man's penis. But hey, many folks get off on those nasty ugly words.

So we can choose to either use and enjoy them. Or not use them, and shut them out of our vocabulary. But life is full of choices. Viva la difference!

(I too hate the term "subbie". It makes the act of submission, and the person who submits, seem trivial, small, infantile and inconsequental. Even though i know that many dominants value their submissive's quite highly. Too me, its like baby-talk, and saying "i have to go potty or pee pee". It just sounds classier to say "excuse me, i have to use the ladies room")

Again, words only have the power we give them, and convey the message we are trying to express, be it possitive or negaive, by our choice of phrase or terminalogy.

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RE: Queen Bitch - 10/7/2005 8:35:58 PM

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Ok Denise, since we apparently started this whole thing, see if you can agree with my "clarifications".

First and foremost, while many will try to lay claim to derogatory racial remarks as "taking the power from the negative and making it a positive", it is a word that is never permitted in the bitches club.

Emerald, you don't like the word "bitch" and that is ok. I think realistically, you are entitled and invited to attend and can call yourself "Queen Cunt" if that is more acceptable to you.

The issue is about strong, confident women, call yourself anything you want. From my perspective, one only needs to have the qualities or WANT the qualities of being strong and confident to belong.

A secret handshake? Candle lit "cultish" style meetings? Whatever anyone wants.

Just a side note about "words" ....

Only the above word ever bothers me and I have several black friends and it bothers them as well even when used within a closed racial circle.

It isn't so much the word, but how it is used that makes a word feel "wrong".

Call someone a bitch because they are onery and cranky all the time? probably not a good thing. Call them a bitch because they expect things done correctly, they get the promotion you wanted, they speak their mind, say thank you and move on.

Same thing with "cunt"...to me it is how and when you use it. Sometimes it is fine and can even be a turn on, other times, you better start running before you finish saying it.

Bottom line? Calling ourselves the "Assertive Self Confident Straight Shooting Powerful Women" just doesn't roll off the tongue quite as easily.

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RE: Queen Bitch - 10/7/2005 11:04:25 PM

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Bottom line? Calling ourselves the "Assertive Self Confident Straight Shooting Powerful Women" just doesn't roll off the tongue quite as easily.

That most definitely works for me! But I still, quite literally, cringe when I hear - or see - the "C" word. It's simply vile and extremely offensive to my ears.

And dove... Honey, having all the plumbing isn't what makes one a Queen B. It's what's in the heart and soul, and you and I are way too much alike for me not to know what's in yours.

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RE: Queen Bitch - 10/7/2005 11:08:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: Evanesce

That most definitely works for me! But I still, quite literally, cringe when I hear - or see - the "C" word. It's simply vile and extremely offensive to my ears.

And dove... Honey, having all the plumbing isn't what makes one a Queen B. It's what's in the heart and soul, and you and I are way too much alike for me not to know what's in yours.

See? Just can't make everyone happy all the time. And Denise, thank you for giving dove the response I just couldn't word the way I wanted to.

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RE: Queen Bitch - 10/7/2005 11:53:29 PM

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The term "bitch" tends to be applied to women who have a strong sense of self and are assertive and vocal in working towards achieving their goal.

For example, often women who succeed in the business world by aggressively maintaining their position in the same way that a man would are often labeled "bitch".

From THAT perspective I am proud to be one. It is not based on being onery or contrary, but rather having the guts to fight for what you believe in.

B.I.T.C.H. = Babe In Total Control of Herself
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B.I.T.C.H. = Babe In Total Control of Him

I very rarely even raise My voice. When people call Me a bitch, I say "Thank you!"

DustyGold = Classy Bitch

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RE: Queen Bitch - 10/8/2005 3:28:54 PM

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I suppose that there are a lot of words that could be taken as derogatory. Cunt, bitch, nigger, slut, the list goes on and on. Everyone has their hotspots. My personal one is "You people". I have heard it before, and there is no way that a perfect stranger could know what kind of "people" I am.

My point is any term can be very disrespectful depending on the intent. There are some that don't mind, or even like words that others would deem derogatory. I think the key would be to politely ask someone what their feelings on these words that have a historically controversial meaning what the word means to them. If it bothers them, then it's in appropriate to use the word. If they don't care, then with that particular person, if it's a part of your vocabulary, then it's ok. You should never call someone a slut that Likewise, I would never use a word that I wasn't comfortable with using. For example, I could never call someone worthless, even if they liked to be humiliated in such a matter, because I don't believe anyone is worthless.

Back to the OP, nothing wrong with being the Queen Bitch. My Luvdragon is a Queen Bitch, and i'm damn proud of her. She handles her business, and nobody runs her over, so to me, that's a term of honor.

But i'm the HNIC. :)

Anybody that wants to know what that means, email me......

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