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MladyHathor -> Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 2:16:30 PM)

can someone tell Me quick what's better for tendonitis, tylenol or ibuprofen? My left arm is killing Me after an afternoon of yard work and its 2 weeks before I see the Dr yet---help!
 
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Aileen1968 -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 2:17:03 PM)

alcohol



MladyHathor -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 2:19:55 PM)

LOL I have a gin and tonic, is that what you meant or an alcohol bath or something? I don't complain often but this mutha hurts like an sob--[:o]



CalifChick -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 2:22:15 PM)

Ibuprofin (advil) has better anti-inflammatory qualities than acetaminophen (tylenol) does.  However, you can take both, since they work differently, I would just stagger them (ibuprofin then 2 hours later tylenol).  Don't drink while taking either one. And don't take them on an empty stomach.

Also ice the area, 15 minutes on, 15 minutes off, for as long as you can stand it.

Cali



hisannabelle -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 2:26:03 PM)

greetings mladyhathor,

unfortunately i have recurring tendonitis in my arms and legs so i am totally there with you. i'm sorry you are going through this! i'd recommend taking ibuprofen (ibuprofen or aleve generally helps my aches and pains better than tylenol, if at all). ice and heat are good as well, ice especially (although i find alternating with breaks in between is helpful for me). if you have a brace or wrap, that can be really helpful to remind you not to use the arm (i know i tend to just reach out and do stuff when i shouldn't be, even when my arm hurts, so i need something to keep me from using it).

respectfully,
annabelle.



marieToo -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 3:36:43 PM)

I don't have tendonitis, but anytime I have bad pain, whether a headache or back pain or whatever, I take tylenol or ibuprophen with two large mugs of coffee.  The caffeine really kicks the meds up a notch.  Works like a charm.



Politesub53 -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 3:38:53 PM)

Califchick is quite correct that You can take both tablets. One is a painkiller and one an anti-inflammatory. Just make sure the anti-inflammatory doesnt have pain killer added to it. One warning about using ice packs is place a tea towel or cloth on the skin, as using ice direct can burn the skin. After my recent ops i have used a bag of frozen peas with a single layer of cloth under them.



CalifChick -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 3:41:58 PM)

PS, I'm not sure what you are talking about.  Both have pain-relieving properties, but ibuprofin is better with the anti-inflammatory part. If there is an acetaminophen-ibuprofin combination pill, I haven't seen it.

Cali



MladyHathor -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 3:47:32 PM)

thank you all so much, one ibuprofen and some ice has done wonders, I will take another at bed--I have an appt with the Dr in 2 weeks--what is the prognosis for this, can someone share that?



SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 3:48:23 PM)

my dr prescribes naproxyn, which is generic aleve.  you can take the otc aleve, 2 = 1 rx i think, but be careful if you have high bp, the otc has sodium where as the rx naproxyn does not.



Poetryinpain -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 3:52:19 PM)

If you have any condition that would be exacerbated by the use of a blood-thinner (ulcers or, as in my case, retinopathy), just remember that ibuprofen is a blood-thinner. It should also be taken immediately after eating something (lay down a layer of food in your stomach) so it doesn't eat away at the stomach.

Don't hold the arm in the same position for a long time - the joint and muscles will sieze up. Gently move it once in a while so the joint and muscles remember what they were designed to do.

pip, been there, done that, couldn't get the t-shirt on without help



kittinSol -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 3:56:00 PM)

I know someone who's on prescription anti-inflammatories, Tizanidine and physical therapy for arm and shoulder pain that seems to be caused by the repetitive strain of too much spanking.



Politesub53 -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 4:13:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

PS, I'm not sure what you are talking about.  Both have pain-relieving properties, but ibuprofin is better with the anti-inflammatory part. If there is an acetaminophen-ibuprofin combination pill, I haven't seen it.

Cali



Cali, i know we use different names in the UK.  We have Nurofen plus and Cuprofen plus which both contain Ibuprofen and Codeine Phosphate. It was these i was told not to take alongside Tylenol ( Paracetomol here )



TheHeretic -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 9:19:39 PM)

       Aleve, or naproxen sodium in a generic, works really well for me.  The bag of frozen peas makes a great ice-pack.  A moderate amount of alcohol can help relax you as well.  Push comes to shove, raid that little bottle from your last trip to the dentist for a night or two.



Owned1 -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 10:58:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MladyHathor

thank you all so much, one ibuprofen and some ice has done wonders, I will take another at bed--I have an appt with the Dr in 2 weeks--what is the prognosis for this, can someone share that?


If it is a simple tendinitis then with rest and anti inflammatory you should be OK.  You can have it reoccur at times.  However it could be something else, the Internet is not a good place for diagnosis.

One other thing to consider is rest the arm as much as possible.  If you are taking meds to ease the pain make sure you are not using the arm too much as the meds will mask the pain and you could hurt it more.  Pain is our bodies way of saying to take it easy. 

The yard work can wait, it will wait patiently for you.

Owned



Cyrce -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 11:08:49 PM)

I recently found a homeopathic ointment called Traumeel.  It has helped with intense chronic muscular pain.  It really helps because I can't take anti-inflamatories and want to avoid pain meds.  It has also worked on friends. 



Emperor1956 -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/13/2008 11:34:03 PM)

FR:   A few things.  First and most important DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL WHEN YOU ARE TAKING acetaminophen.  The link between alcohol use, acetaminophen and liver damage is well established, but for years was thought to be an issue only with "moderate" drinking (3 glasses of wine in an evening, several times a week).  What is emerging is there seems to be an unfortunate cululative effect.  So just one drink and a Tylenol might trigger "alcohol-acetaminophen syndrome" in a person who has previously tolerated alcohol and acetaminophen.
 
I asked one of our docs this question (I was reading the boards when she called in to verify something, so I said "Hey Dr. N.----  what do you think?"   She said Ibuprofen, definitely.  The key is the greater reduction of tissue swelling and strain.  By the way, ALL NSAIDs are "painkillers" -- whoever posted some distinction between "painkiller" and "anti-inflammatory" is talking out of their ass.  Ibu is the better anti-inflammatory.  (For the record, acetaminophen is the better antipyretic, or fever reducer).
 
Now, should MLadyHathor take naproxen sodium, or "Aleve"?  Well, clinically the answer would be "no" because her pain was reduced successfully by the ibu.  NS is considered a "step up" in invasiveness.  However, it has excellent effect on swollen joints and might be the way to go if the Ibu stops working.  Oh, and by the way...whoever posted some nonsense about prescription NS not having sodium but Aleve does?  More poppycock.  Naproxen sodium always has sodium in it, regardless of source.  And yes, it can spike blood pressure in some instances.
 
Two last things:  why not take asprin?  Its cheap, its effective and if you have no gastric issues with the other two drugs, it should be fine for short term therapy.  Good old ASA remains one of the major theraputic drugs available.   But guess what?  ITS CHEAP.  The drug companies don't make much on it because (1) its nonproprietary and (2) it costs about 6 cents to make a couple dozen pounds of the stuff.   I find it amusing that everyone here jumped to the "Ibu" vs. acetaminophen vs. NS.   NO ONE said "take two asprins".   The drug company advertising sure is working isn't it?  (NO -- NEVER GIVE ASPRIN TO A CHILD UNDER 12.  NEVER.  EVER.  OK?  sheeeesh).
 
And yes, caffeine is a precipitator for all NSAIDs.  Indeed, the "secret ingredient" in those old compound OTC meds we grew up with -- Anacin, etc.?  Caffeine.
 
And finally,cyrce, I actually know what Traumeel is and I know health care providers who swear by it.  Not to open up a whole new debate about homeopathy, but my issue with Traumeel (which is marketed as a "natural" NSAID) is that objectively there is NOTHING IN IT.   No active ingredient at all.  But then again...if you believe in homeopathy that won't bother you.
 
Lady H feel better.  You'll be back to flogging and whipping and slapping in no time.
 
E.



Hippiekinkster -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/14/2008 1:15:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

PS, I'm not sure what you are talking about.  Both have pain-relieving properties, but ibuprofin is better with the anti-inflammatory part. If there is an acetaminophen-ibuprofin combination pill, I haven't seen it.

Cali



Cali, i know we use different names in the UK.  We have Nurofen plus and Cuprofen plus which both contain Ibuprofen and Codeine Phosphate. It was these i was told not to take alongside Tylenol ( Paracetomol here )
paracetamol is often paired with codeine here. Unfortunately, it is by prescription in the States. In Canada it's OTC at 8mg. codeine phosphate per tab. Canada trusts her citizens. I brought back quite a bit from Vancouver last December. I use it (aspirin, codeine, & 15 mg. caffeine) to keep from going through withdrawals when I run low on oxycontin.



SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/14/2008 1:56:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

   Oh, and by the way...whoever posted some nonsense about prescription NS not having sodium but Aleve does?  More poppycock.  Naproxen sodium always has sodium in it, regardless of source.  And yes, it can spike blood pressure in some instances.
 
 


im the nonsense poster-and rx naproxyn is just that-not naproxyn sodium. aleve is naproxyn sodium.  so i call poppycock on your poppycock.  id post a link to my rx bottle and the info on it, but i cant get it thru the holes in the puter.



pahunkboy -> RE: Ouch, In pain (4/14/2008 6:18:26 AM)

200 mg of ibuprophen.

maybe 81 mg of aspirin,   abit later.

the pricey RXs that are dirivitives of ibuprophen are a waste of money.





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