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RE: why does life when you are happy smack you in the f... - 4/20/2008 7:02:18 AM   
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I am sorry but it is a normal response and can often do a lot to benefit us as long as we do not combine it with blame however irrational it may be, Give yourself the time to grieve .  My son lost 3 close friend in an auto accident and another suffered serious brain damage , some odd reason he had decided not join them that night as terrible as it was it made him realize he had to make major changes in his life to become a better person for a child that was on the way at the time.   It helped to pulled him out of a life of gangs, crime and addiction. so a lot of good came out of it.  For me it was recognizing that quantity of time is not as important and quality of time and that I do have a lot to be thankful for, so I should not be wasting my energy and time focusing on the negatives of life.  

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RE: why does life when you are happy smack you in the f... - 4/20/2008 8:19:43 AM   
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cyanna, I hope you can and will accept what I have to say in the spirit in which I offer it for your consideration.

First, my condolences for your loss.

I do, however, respectfully disagree with some sentiments that have been posted in this thread. Things don't always work out "for the "best", at least, not in the sense that many think of what's best. That is not to say that there isn't something to learn from tragedy and loss. There is, imo. Nothing is permanent. We lose
what we love, what we are attached to, and, in the end, we loose, and have to learn to let go of everything. That's just how it is.

Yes, it hurts, sometimes it may seem unbearable. but, it must be endured and, hopefully, transcended.

I know that children must be protected and made to feel safe. However, depending on their age and capacity to understand, condsider whether insulating them from life's realities will benefit them in the long run. Children seem to be amazingly resilient.

Perhaps exploring and finding a spiritual (I don't mean religious) practice
that suits you   would be of value to you. This too, is a difficult path. But, the rewards can be well worth the effort and, along the way, you may find acceptance and peace. What do you have to lose ?

There is a story told about how one day, a woman came to the Buddha. The woman's only child had just died. She was, of course, devastated and carried the child's corpse around with her, not allowing burial or even anyone to touch her. The woman asked the Buddha to restore the child to life and heal her anguish. The Buddha replied that he would grant the woman's request on one condition. He told her to go into the town and to bring him back a mustard seed from a household that had never been touched by death.

You can, of course , figure what happened. But, the experience of going door to door and seeing the anguish at every home that had come as the result of the death of a loved one was, in the end, a healing experience for the woman. She came to understand and appreciate the universality of her experience, and it's inevitability. She was also drawn out of her own grief by feeling empathy and compassion for others who had shared her experience and anguish.

Even the Buddha did not escape death. Of course, he had no wish to. We all face this reality. Some of us have opportunity and time to face it and come to grips with it. When we do, if we do, peace is available to us, as, ironically, it always is.

My Best Warm Wishes to you and yours, chyanna.


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RE: why does life when you are happy smack you in the f... - 4/20/2008 8:31:28 AM   
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so sorry for your loss, such a young woman!  your feelings are perfectly normal, especially for someone faced with such an illness.  i feel much the same way when i hear of someone my age passing away and realizing that there but for the grace of god go i.  we had a loss in our lives recently, a longtime family friend had a sudden heart attack, she was only a year older than i.  and she was perfectly healthy, i am not.  hit a little too close to home and i felt much the same as you do now.  it will pass.  nobody knows when our time is up, we just have to make the most of it while we're here and love all we can.
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RE: why does life when you are happy smack you in the f... - 4/20/2008 9:01:26 AM   
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Y/you A/all are definately coming together and giving me some wonderful words of wisdom, keep them coming, they are keeping me going at this time
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RE: why does life when you are happy smack you in the f... - 4/20/2008 10:04:24 AM   
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I don't think it's wise to hide your grief from your children.  Your children are old enough to understand.  It is okay for them to be upset with you.  Teach your children that it is okay to express their emotions.  Teach them that it is okay to have a group snuggle on the couch and sob.  Teach them that it is okay to talk about the memories, and even to laugh at the good ones in the midst of your tears.  Teach your children that it is okay to FEEL.

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RE: why does life when you are happy smack you in the f... - 4/20/2008 10:59:57 AM   
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First please allow me to express my condolences for your tragic loss and also find a place for you in my prayers.

There is nothing as effective as the death of someone very close to us to make us aware of our own mortality.

But you know..

"Seeing death as the end of life is like seeing the horizon as the end of the ocean."
David Searls

You came into this world individually, and such is not just your path through life but also your manner of grieving. Feelings of grief, loss, and sadness are better off expressed outwards and released than bottled up or stifled, and time heals.

Love is something we were all born with, but fear is something we have all learned.

Death is nothing more than a challenge. It tells us not to waste time, to be there for those that matter, to share with them both happiness and love and to share our feelings with them. Not every opportunity comes back, and not everybody gets the chance to say goodbye.

Which is the biggest tragedy.. to die, or to have never lived?

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RE: why does life when you are happy smack you in the f... - 4/20/2008 12:01:12 PM   
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i seem to becoming number and number and so grouchy and i dont mean to........my patience for teenage kids has flown out of the window....am i now a bad mum......i cant cope!!

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RE: why does life when you are happy smack you in the f... - 4/20/2008 12:39:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chyanna

i seem to becoming number and number and so grouchy and i dont mean to........my patience for teenage kids has flown out of the window....am i now a bad mum......i cant cope!!


dragonsnot.  you arent a bad mama.  you're a human being who is hurting the loss of your friend.  that's already taking a lot of your strength, and teenagers can absolutely tapdance on your very last nerve!  (i've a 14 yr old of the male variety still at home, i know.)

it isnt easy losing someone close to you.  i lost 2 dominants to death within two years...the second was just over a year ago now.  and now i'm in the middle of divorce and relocation and losing being able to be with Daddy physically because of that move.... and no, it isnt easy at all.

and the MS monster has been mentioned to me as a definite probability too.  so yes, i can absolutely feel for you right now. 

dont expect to get all your grieving out immediately.  it takes time.  i STILL have times i cry for james and for fallcon.  james has been gone 3 years last december, fallcon one year last december.  its better to say "i'm feeling sad because i miss my friend" than to not feel those feelings and teach your kiddos that they have to stifle their feelings too.

*hugs*  and if you need an ear, i'm available on the other side, too.

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RE: why does life when you are happy smack you in the f... - 4/20/2008 12:54:42 PM   
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Chyanna - it's so hard to lose friends and mentors. They're special because they are chosen. You have the choice again to keep them alive in your heart and in all the memories you have of the time you were priviledged to know them. If you are facing your own mortality in the process, let it remind you to live each moment to the fullest .. that's an awesome epitaph to a good friend.

As for the kids, can you just send them to a friends house for the day so you can breath, reminice and have some 'chyanna' time? Being human and reacting to the unexpected doesn't make you a 'bad' anything but you're not angry or upset with the kids, you're reacting to the situation in which you find yourself .. give them a day off from chores or whatever and, you know.. you can hang around the forums with us if ya want.

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RE: why does life when you are happy smack you in the f... - 4/21/2008 1:41:14 AM   
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sent the children to my friends overnight god bless her and sat at home and read the book of jokes she liked about rugby (only liked for the men)
lit a candle and sat there and within 5 mins i was crying and within 20 mins tears were streaming down me face with laughter....that was so like Sarah
Now when i pick up that book when i feel low or lonely or that the MS has been a bitch that day i will think of Sarah and how she kept me going
and how now i shall keep her going in my head and heart due to a book.
Thank You all for your love and support
Zoe


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