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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 6:49:12 AM   
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here circumsicion are made by doctors in medical condition, excision is made by maybe the village's  butcher in the middle of the hut on the sandy floor, that's the diffrences!!!



The foreskin is not a piece of superfluous flesh, it is a functioning part of the male genitalia and that is the point and male circumcision is so common because of fucked in the head religion (which is another of my pet hates), not for medical reasons. Being circumcised in good \medical conditions is besides the point, would you agree to female circumcision if it was done in good medical conditions.

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After this    to answer to the Op question.I prefer cut, master is uncut and thats why it is almost impossible to have sex (it is too painfull). And regarding another comments: even clean people who are uncut have some foul smells.

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 6:50:41 AM   
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My (extremely strong) preference is for circumcised. The Yuck factor is just too high for uncut cocks: they look creepy and seem to always smell bad. Definite deal breaker.


Maybe you just fuck unhygenic people?



Why does this upset you?


Diane


Because I dislike ignorance



Clean or not, I never liked the look of a uncut penis...That's just me...


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I don't like the look of saggy tits and arses but I don't think women should ahve them cut off.

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 6:58:56 AM   
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Why are you here? That's like 80% of the people here.


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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:06:38 AM   
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dear meatcleaver

First of all I was polite in my comment so please be agreable enough to do the same.

Then I did'nt say that i was agreeing with the principle of the circumcision (i had just talked about my personnal vision of it) as I don't agree on female circumcision being both done in medical condition or not. I was just stying to point why so many people are against female circumcision.

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I don't choose, My master is uncut as I previously said and even if he is extremely clean (two showers a day) sometime his uncut sex smells strange.

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:07:25 AM   
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There's a big difference between cutting foreskin and completely removing  pleasure endings. Males are still capable of orgasm after the procedure, women are not. I didn't see an uncircumsized cock until I was 20. Talk about a mind fuck. I remember being all freaked out because I thought there was something wrong with it (we had sex in a dark room before I saw it) lol. Poor guy was so embarassed.   

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:10:12 AM   
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I guess the next question is why it is so important to you Diane?

I like that my Pecker is Cut too cause I have seen what could happen if it wasn't this is why I had my son cut as well.

It is a preference and no matter the reason it is important to the person who has it.

Meatcleaver I have however seen quite a few UNCUT men who tried to get into the Porn Industry and the girls refused to be with them because there is a Natural Odor with some men that just naturally occurs it is a turn off to the female stars and so they are rejected no matter how clean they may actually be. Ron Jeremy and I spoke about this once over sushi. I asked him what gets you into porn and he talked a lot about the Size matter and that Uncircumsized cocks seemd to be bigger however some guys just have a smell that no matter how clean they are a girl or guy sucking thier cock doesn't care for and well they are outta there. That's all it takes. Some people just produce a smell clean or not it's always there.

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:14:18 AM   
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Cuz  meatcleaver is an idiot and he's to start shit cuz, he has no life......


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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:15:07 AM   
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Washed vagina still has that natural smell too, Steel, but society has been programmed to see that as being attractive, and rightly so, whereas in the US, uncut penis is viewed as dirty so even with that natural clean smell isn't societal conditioning a factor and shaping people's attitudes as a result?

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:17:10 AM   
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I know that you have very strong feelings on this issue because every time a circumcision thread has come up you have made them very clear. The thing is though, there are a lot of people who feel equally strong about it in the exact opposite direction as yourself. They are no more ignorant for the way they feel than you are.

You are in a place where uncircumcised is the norm...and we are in a place where it is not the norm. Regardless of the "rightness" or "wrongness" of the procedure, we do at least have to take the "normness" factor into consideration in relationship to where we are. The social factor is important.

I have a friend who is uncut and it has been a problem for him all of his adult life. He told me that gym class was a hellish nightmare because of it. He tells me that he is very self conscious of it and that self consciousness is a direct result of the reactions he has gotten, both from his classmates and from the females in his life. Many women here have never seen an uncut penis before. He tells me that it has been extremely rare that he has met a woman who would agree to perform oral sex on him. Now, that certainly is shallow and unfounded....but it is the reality of what he encounters here. We can't simply discount reactions like that because they do happen and we have to deal with them. Granted, that type of reaction comes from a place of ignorance...but that doesn't make it any easier on him the first time he tries to become intimate with someone.

I also knew a man who was uncut and married a woman who had never experienced that before. Apparently, she always found it rather unappealing but tried for several years to overcome that. She knew that it was silly to have such a reaction. Unfortunately though, try as she did she just never could view it in a yummy sort of way. Ultimately, their sex life suffered and they divorced.

You are not wrong in your views but neither are those who prefer it the other way. I know you have provided a lot of info on the "con" side of cicrcumcision....there is also a lot of info on the "pro" side though, as is evidenced by the links the OP provided. It does ultimately boil down to personal preference...but I don't see either choice as "ignorant" unless it is a choice that is made without taking the time to educate yourself on all of the "pros" and "cons" and making the decision an informed one.

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:18:20 AM   
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Uncut and if anyone gets all freaked out by it because they've lived such a sheltered life I can only really laugh at their twisted ignorance in terms of what is normal i.e. god given and what isn't.

Religious types are so good at contradicting themselves on the one hand they talk of creationism i.e. a perfect design as intended by god and then they say oh the design isn't quite so perfect and we have to chop bits off ourselves.

Having said all that there was a study recently that supports the theory that HIV isn't so easy to transmit to a person that has been circumcised due to cells in the foreskin being more susceptible to infection. I didn't want to bring this into the mix though as we all understand that we shouldn't be taking anything for granted as far as safe sex is concerned.


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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:22:09 AM   
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Meatcleaver I have however seen quite a few UNCUT men who tried to get into the Porn Industry and the girls refused to be with them because there is a Natural Odor with some men that just naturally occurs it is a turn off to the female stars and so they are rejected no matter how clean they may actually be. Ron Jeremy and I spoke about this once over sushi. I asked him what gets you into porn and he talked a lot about the Size matter and that Uncircumsized cocks seemd to be bigger however some guys just have a smell that no matter how clean they are a girl or guy sucking thier cock doesn't care for and well they are outta there. That's all it takes. Some people just produce a smell clean or not it's always there.

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Steel, you are in America where 90% of men are circumcized, I am in Europe where 90% of men aren't circumcized so my guess is there is a cultural difference. However, if I thought a foreskin was some sort of handicap I could just pay to be circumcized but you have to think you are better off being circumcized because you simply have no choice. Most men who are circumcized had the choice made for them by their parents so its not as if 90% of American men made a positive choice, their parents made it for them for religious reason, socialization or grounds of pure ignorance.

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:25:31 AM   
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My (extremely strong) preference is for circumcised. The Yuck factor is just too high for uncut cocks: they look creepy and seem to always smell bad. Definite deal breaker.


Maybe you just fuck unhygenic people?




Like a film .. uncut is always better


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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:26:37 AM   
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Cuz  meatcleaver is an idiot and he's to start shit cuz, he has no life......


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LOL. I bet I have more of a life than you do but I have to confess,  I doubt being kinky here isn't as much fun as it is over there because we are not such a sexually repressed society but at least I can smoke dope if I want and blow the smoke in a policieman's face or fuck a whore over the trunk of a police car and not get arrested.

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:26:45 AM   
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their parents made it for them for religious reason, socialization or grounds of pure ignorance.


and you have heard personally from every single parent in America who has had their son circumsized which is why you have the right to speak for them


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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:28:43 AM   
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their parents made it for them for religious reason, socialization or grounds of pure ignorance.


and you have heard personally from every single parent in America who has had their son circumsized which is why you have the right to speak for them



You tell me why parents have their male children circumcized?

Did god make a design fault?

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:32:48 AM   
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their parents made it for them for religious reason, socialization or grounds of pure ignorance.


and you have heard personally from every single parent in America who has had their son circumsized which is why you have the right to speak for them



You tell me why parents have their male children circumcized?



You just proved my point. You do not have a clue why our choices are made...yet you feel you have the right to assume you do.


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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:34:26 AM   
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Either or is fine w/me as long as the man is hygenic. I've had both, cut/uncut, clean/not so clean. I prefer CLEAN...cut/uncut is not an issue.

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 7:37:55 AM   
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This person was circumcised as an infant and frankly, it's moot point for me to bitch and complain about the loss of my foreskin. Whether it is advantageous to be uncut is a concept I will never know and nor do I really care. It was my parents decision to have me circumcised as an infant and since I was too young to understand the pros and cons to having a foreskin and therefore it makes no sense to blame my parents for making a decision on what they felt right to do. It is over and done with.
Granted a man who is uncut has to take a little more time to clean around the glans and under the foreskin but that is just using good hygiene practices. I know many men who absolutely love playing with a man who is uncut and know men who refuse to play with an uncircumcised man. It boils down to personal preferences, plain and simple.


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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 8:06:18 AM   
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i really can't say i have a preference either way.  However, my father insisted my brothers be circumsised because when my dad was in the army one of his buddies suffered horribly from infection because of being uncut.  They didn't always have access to showers and keeping clean.  What that man supposedly went through being circumsised as an adult (granted that was 60+ years ago) my father thought was cruel and vowed he would never allow his male children to the potential of such suffering.  So my parents' first-born was circumcised in the hospital.  my dad said the doctor used nothing and cut the boy like it could feel no pain.  my father was aghast again at such cruelty!

Although my dad isn't religious, nor are we even related to Jewish people, my dad also chose a mohel to circumsise my other bothers.  my dad's reasoning was that these people have done it for thousands of years and should know best.  The story goes that my brothers never even winced and the the cut was made with one quick motion.

So that's the story.  When i was pregnant i told my doctor i was going to find a mohel myself but he told me he could give me the names of 15 mohels who would attest that he (my doctor) could perform the procedure with equal skill.  Yes, i made a choice for my son.  i made many choices for my son like whether or not to breast-feed or cloth or disposible diapers, etc etc etc.  A parent tries to make good choices for their children.

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RE: Cut or Uncut ? - 5/5/2008 8:14:58 AM   
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Why are you here? That's like 80% of the people here.



You didn't ask me the question, but I'm curious: where is here, exactly?

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