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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 3:19:10 PM   
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One thing i discovered as a kid was that if i wake up with a nightmare, going to pee before going back to sleep made sure i wouldn't have that dream again.

Odd - but true!

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 3:43:30 PM   
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You can train yourself to be active in a nitemare, and start asking questions to the participants in the dream. Find a good book on lucid dreaming. I didn't have any problem learning it, and have discovered a lot of valuable information

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This brings to mind an article I once read in which the gentleman was having recurent nightmares in which he was being chased by a gorilla with red hair.  He finally went to a some type of professional in sleep problems who helped him learn to be active in his nightmares.  Finally he was able to turn and confront the red haired gorrilla while experiencing the nightmare.  The gorilla turned into his red-haired mother-in-law!  He was then able to work out some issues with his mother-in-law and never had the nightmare again.

I know that as for myself my worst nightmares, the kind that seem so real and yet you are unable to move or do anything, normally occure if I eat ice cream before going to bed!  (other dairy products don't seem to have the same effect)  Once I realized this I learned to eat my ice cream earlier in the evening and have not had a similar nightmare in years.

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 3:50:13 PM   
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with my nightmares I realised they only turned up when I was falling asleep on my back...and though I had them 3-5 nights per week over approx. 8 years, they strangely only disappeared when I switched on the light, even when I knew often that what I am seeing isn't there in reality, it did not disappear until I switched on the light. After a few years of jumping out of the bed regularly and turning on the light, at some point I managed to stay calm, turn on the light at my bedside table, switch it off again and turn around to continue my sleep...that was a heck of journey to get rid off it, but I am pretty sure why it occured the way it did and also why it only disappeared when I turned on the light...thankfully it's gone since 8 years and hopefully it will stay that way

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 4:43:05 PM   
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Lavender oil sprinkled on your pillow or a few drops on a tissue beside you gives a great nights sleep

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 5:47:35 PM   
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Odd. I was told the key to Night Terrors was to give yourself a positive imagery.

This is why we Count Sheep believe it or not. Sheep or Lambs are thinking of God so the devil can't scare you when you sleep.

Also it is a good idea to Not Eat right before you go to bed. If you HONESTLY BELIEVE in the Native American Dream Catcher they work because Sun Conciously you believe they work so the sub concious won't overact. Silly but it works for so many.

Me Personally all my Nightmares are Sad not Scary, The Images are Grotesque and Bloody but the concepts are very sad. I woke up crying because I felt sad for the bloody beasts.

Then again My Therapy Bill is VERY HIGH.

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 5:52:32 PM   
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Valerian root taken 30 minutes before bed time should help.  It is a low-level sleep aid and anti-anxylotic.  It is available in caplet form in most health food stores, or as a tea.  The tea form would likely be the most effective, as the heat would have it's own relaxing/calming effects.

As one other poster has mentioned, melatonin can also assist with sleep onset and sleep duration.


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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 5:54:06 PM   
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Odd. I was told the key to Night Terrors was to give yourself a positive imagery.

Just a quick note:  Night Terrors are different from nightmares. 

Nightmares occur during REM sleep.  Night Terrors occur during deep sleep, and can be indicative of a more serious condition.


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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 5:54:20 PM   
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most people can't stand the smell of Valerian root to enjoy it as a tea.  I'd recommend the capsul form. 

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 6:44:06 PM   
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I believe in confronting my nightmares rather than mask them in the hopes they will go away.

Another great thing I found with dream control, is to use it as a means to answer difficult questions, waking up with the answer the following morning. Sometimes difficult questions need to be asked over consecutive nights before an answer is gained.

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 7:08:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: StrictnSaucy

Lavender oil sprinkled on your pillow or a few drops on a tissue beside you gives a great nights sleep


Oh thanks, that reminded me that i wanted to make a dream pillow. Lavender will naturally go in it.

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 7:34:07 PM   
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i have to agree with confronting the nightmares.once i figured out why i seem to have them i managed to work on it and since i'm over the issue they are gone.one of my dream books helped me to get the answer why i had them (or why i think i had them). I always had them in the 1st 10-15 minutes of my sleep :o(

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/29/2008 8:20:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

One thing i discovered as a kid was that if i wake up with a nightmare, going to pee before going back to sleep made sure i wouldn't have that dream again.

Odd - but true!


I'll have to try that remedy the next time I have a nightmare...don't have them often.
One tidbit I do know about dreams.  If you work out or exercise a lot you dream more often.  Your dreams are also more sexual in nature.



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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 12/30/2008 5:28:52 AM   
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While I don't have any suggestions for preventing them, I do have a couple for dealing with the aftermath of a nightmare.

1) I always get up and eat something sweet, helps keep the nightmares from returning. It's both life affirming and the sugar boost seems to do my body good. Nothing too big - a single chocolate chip cookie or a bit of cake, you don't want to wire yourself up so much that you can't go back to sleep.

2) Switch rooms you are sleeping in. I will often drag my blankets and pillows out to the couch after a nightmare, something about changing my physical location helps change my mental location when it comes to dreaming.

3) Most importantly, be paitent and kind to yourself. Nightmares are involuntary, and it's tempting to want to beat yourself up for having them, but it's not something that we can always control.

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 1/2/2009 1:53:48 AM   
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Try taking Valerian or Arsenicum 

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 1/2/2009 8:42:24 PM   
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I think there is a difference between nightmares and night terrors.
Nightmares tend to happen to me when I take something to help me sleep. (a certain pill) They are awful and terrible, but they are just dreams.
I've had much worse happen, with the paralysis, a loud "vibration", and very real waking dream confusion...where there is little differential between sleeping and waking.
Then again, I'm pretty convinced they weren't actual dreams, and that I wasn't asleep.

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 1/2/2009 8:50:59 PM   
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I describe night terrors as a panic attack when I'm asleep.  Waking is very abrupt and terrorizing.  Stress is my biggest factor.  Definitely not a nightmare.

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 1/3/2009 6:21:32 AM   
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To the OP,

It's just nightmares.

Unless it's really messing up your sleep for a long period of time, just let it resolve on its own. Practice good sleep hygiene (look up the term on Google or Wikipedia). Spend a bit of time soaking up the impressions from your new environment, and write letters to your family, telling them what the new place is like. That will help consolidate the new impressions during your waking time. Phone calls also work, but are less effective. Tea, exercise, lucid dreaming and so forth is pointless in this connection, and may even be counterproductive. Your brain has a lot of new impressions to process and correlate, and needs to make adjustments. It does so during sleep, or as a part of the process of structuring the impressions to convey them to others. The unfamiliarity and stress are adequate to cause the dreams to become nightmarish.

It will pass.

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She said her doctor determined that her brain didn't produce enough serotonin and the nightmares were a reaction from that.


In all likelihood, the doctor didn't determine anything at all. However, he was also most likely correct. Rapid drops in serotonin activity are associated with vivid dreams, nightmares, night terrors, difficulty waking, dreams inside dreams, and a host of other symptoms, something which has been well documented in patients tapering off older (i.e. effective) antidepressants, particularly those tapering down from very high doses of Parnate, where a slow taper is critical to avoid sleep disturbances. Some patients find sleep aids useful while tapering. Nightmares alone are insufficient grounds for any conclusion. In the case you mentioned, the doctor had more to go on: the vivid nature of the dreams, and the failure to wake from them.

I know intimately how this works.

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You're out on a limb here, and it doesn't look sturdy.

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Lucid dreaming is not the answer. That engages parts of the brain that diminish the efficiency of the sleep cycle. Don't get me wrong, lucid dreaming is a powerful tool, and can be well worth learning. The hand trick is nice, but in my experience, few people have the ability to consciously remember to do so while caught in a dream. It is generally more reliable to establish waking-time habits that will reveal whether one is dreaming, whether in response to specific situations (e.g. looking at one's hands every time one sees a specific thing that tends to be present in a dream), or as a general habit (e.g. checking that text doesn't change in books, etc.).

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Reducing sleep time to six hours, as a general rule, is not advisable. It is too short for most people, and may result in microsleep episodes, which can be quite dangerous if the timing is off. Making do with less sleep is a predictor for abbreviated lifespan. As a general rule, the total amount of sleep, whether it is normal monophasic sleep, or some polyphasic schedule, should aim for eight hours or two sleep cycles, whichever is more. Polyphasic sleep allows less sleep without health effects, but will generally cause difficulty in a culture that relies on monophasic sleep to regulate schedules and business activity. The cognitive effects are variable, ranging from none to improvement in some areas with decline in others.

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 1/3/2009 6:34:58 AM   
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Valerian root taken 30 minutes before bed time should help.


I would not recommend it in this case. When nightmares occur in a stable situation, yes, it can be a good idea. However, she has just moved house, and Valerian will impair the consolidation process which needs to take place, to the exact same extent that it will affect sleep. And not everyone absorbs the active ingredient, which is a herbal analogue of Depakote. Melatonin is good for rhythm problems, including sleep onset, but is also something ideally refrained from until the situation has settled. A quick fix isn't generally a good route, whether herbal, medicinal or otherwise.

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Try taking Valerian or Arsenicum


Arsenicum would seem to be an inadvisable risk, given the low purported benefit, compared with the consequences of getting a poorly prepared batch. If it is done properly, there should only be water in the bottle, but there have been cases where some arsenic remained, with predictable consequences.

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Night terrors, as celticlord2112 pointed out, occur during deep sleep while you are not actually dreaming. Nightmares are a type of dream. Quite simple, really. If you were dreaming, you were having a nightmare, not night terrors. If you were not dreaming, you were having night terrors, not a nightmare. The two are not overlapping in nature. Panic attacks can occur during a dream, which is not the same as night terrors.

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 1/3/2009 6:38:51 AM   
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while the op is a woman, it's OK to recommend lavender. 
 
Men should NOT drink lavendar or use lavendar oil excessively.  The same is true for sage because both of those plants have too many plant estrogens and using it everyday can mess with a man's hormones especially boys and young men. 
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I knew there must be a reason that I hate the smell of lavendar. Pisses me off that they put it in so many products.

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RE: Natural remedies- Nightmares - 1/3/2009 2:54:28 PM   
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Night terrors, as celticlord2112 pointed out, occur during deep sleep while you are not actually dreaming. Nightmares are a type of dream. Quite simple, really. If you were dreaming, you were having a nightmare, not night terrors. If you were not dreaming, you were having night terrors, not a nightmare. The two are not overlapping in nature. Panic attacks can occur during a dream, which is not the same as night terrors.

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I never said I was dreaming when I get night terrors.  I also never said it was a panic attack, just that it feels that way to me. 

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