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Would like to know - 10/20/2005 6:12:04 PM   
mrskitty2004


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Status: offline 		Hi I would like to know if there a master someone doesn't want,and they want a differnet one do slaves have rights to change there minds.? and find another master who is closer to them?

Beth
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RE: Would like to know - 10/20/2005 6:20:50 PM   
perfection20005


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Status: offline 		I'm not sure what you are looking for. Do you want to be released and find another Dom/Master who is closer to you? If that is the case, I would go onto the other side of CM and start a search. I did see that you just joined, so give it a chance and you will be contacted by someone. I would suggest that if you are looking to be released, that you get rid of the "collared" part. Tell a little bit about yourself and what you are looking for, tell people how far you are willing to commute, what some of your hobbies are. You really don't have much on your profile, and to attract someone, you need more. But remember, if you are looking for another Master, you should be released from your current Master. Good luck!!

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RE: Would like to know - 10/20/2005 6:37:10 PM   
sub4hire


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if there a master someone doesn't want,and they want a differnet one do slaves have rights to change there minds.? and find another master who is closer to them?


Sounds like you've made a mistake and want to change your mind but do not know if you can?

I think it depends upon the individual. In my terminology a slave has zero rights so no they could not walk away nor ask for release. Yet in other's then yes a slave has the same rights as anyone else.
The lifestyle is a big step, not to be taken as a whim. What is stopping you from communicating things are not working for you and you'd like to part company?

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RE: Would like to know - 10/20/2005 6:51:12 PM   
EmeraldSlave2


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Status: offline 		This is why you don't make a commitment until you're really really sure you want those expectations in your life for yourself.

Yes, slaves can change their minds. Some slaves are in relationships where it doesn't matter if they change their mind. But...I doubt you're in that situation.

So talk it out and just go where you need to go.

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RE: Would like to know - 10/20/2005 6:58:42 PM   
Kinkypupper


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Status: offline 		It appears that you are dissatisfied with your Master.
In my opinion...
If you are a collared slave you do not have ANY rights you can sit down and talke with him and beg for his release. or if you are one who has a "annual" re-commitment deal then stay tell then and tell him you do not wish to remain.
Now if there are issues regarding legality or torture or abuse or even dishonesty then I can agree with you.
If you leave "Just" because, then anyone who may consider being your "Master" will or should know that you may not be most Earnest in your request to be their slave.
The key I suppose is in the circumstances that you are now in.

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RE: Would like to know - 10/20/2005 7:00:45 PM   
IronBear


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Status: offline 		From a Master's perspective, I'd want to talk the matter out, for I would not want a slave in my collar who doesn't want to be there.

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RE: Would like to know - 10/20/2005 7:07:06 PM   
BlueDevil


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ORIGINAL: mrskitty2004

Hi I would like to know if there a master someone doesn't want,and they want a differnet one do slaves have rights to change there minds.? and find another master who is closer to them?

Beth


Unless you're being held against your will you're a consensual slave. That implies that you have the right to withdraw your consent. If you are in a relationship that doesn't suit you and you and your Master can't work it out, you can ask for release. It may not be honorable, if you promised never to do it, but, you have that right. My opinion.

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RE: Would like to know - 10/20/2005 7:58:42 PM   
OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: BlueDevil



Unless you're being held against your will you're a consensual slave. That implies that you have the right to withdraw your consent.


Thank you!

We are in this lifestyle because it makes us happy. You have a right to happiness. If you're unhappy and want out, then do it. You have the right to walk away.




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RE: Would like to know - 10/20/2005 8:11:03 PM   
OscarHargraves


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Status: offline 		Why would you doubt your right to leave? And, more importantly, why do you think that a Master would want a slave that doesn't want to be there? You might have to leave with nothing but you CAN leave. The decision is yours but I would suggest that you talk it over with your Master first and see if you can come to an agreement. If not, then pack your stuff and head for somewhere else. You are a slave only because you want to be. Nobody in this country can force you to be their slave if it is not what you want.

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RE: Would like to know - 10/20/2005 9:46:12 PM   
Delvin


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Status: offline 		If you beg to be released, though I would be concerned if you are looking for a Master behind your current Masters back, what the new Master might think of your actions.

You can run. A runaway slave will be taken in by this new Master that is closer to you, but you again leave a bitter taste in the current Masters mouth, and trust with the new Master I would think would be strained.

You could talk with your current Master, though if you are asking if it is okay to leave him now, I would suspect you have made your mind up.

You are, afterall, a free human being in most Countries, so ultimately it would be your choice to live with the actions you take.

D

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RE: Would like to know - 10/20/2005 11:26:38 PM   
FLButtSlut


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mrskitty2004

Hi I would like to know if there a master someone doesn't want,and they want a differnet one do slaves have rights to change there minds.? and find another master who is closer to them?

Beth



Does a slave have a right to "change their minds?" It's called "reality" and sometimes, when decisions are made in haste, that reality has this nasty way of sneaking in and ruining the fantasy.

I have no idea why exactly you want "out" or if you have spoken to him about this to see if there is an alternate resolution. But regardless of "honor", "protocol", "promises" or "contracts", reality is what it is...if you want out, then leave. If you are not being fufilled in this relationship, then what is the point? I know many disagree, thinking the whole "if you are a slave, you have no rights", but this is REALITY, we all enter this life because it fufills OUR needs. If yours aren't being fufilled, look elsewhere.

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RE: Would like to know - 10/20/2005 11:44:26 PM   
FangsNfeet


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Status: offline 		What's keeping you as someones slave? Black mail, a gun to the head, being kept in a locked basement the whole time? Are you unable to support yourself and realize that this dom is your only way to have a food and shelter?
If you don't want to be in a relationship anymore then you leave. A BDSM Dom versus a Sadistic Power Monger are truely two different types of people. It's your choice to submit and it's your choice to leave is so needed or desired.


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RE: Would like to know - 10/21/2005 12:16:40 AM   
Soulhuntre


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mrskitty2004
Hi I would like to know if there a master someone doesn't want,and they want a differnet one do slaves have rights to change there minds.? and find another master who is closer to them?


That would depend on the relationship you are in. I would say, however, that it is 99.9999999% likely you are in one where you are free to change your mind.

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RE: Would like to know - 10/21/2005 7:06:07 AM   
wetrope


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Status: offline 		You always have the right to do what you want, while you do give up ur rights when collared, you can always take them (your rights) back. There is no excuse for being a doormat, and any Master who did not know you were unhappy, is not worth your time.

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RE: Would like to know - 10/21/2005 7:51:16 AM   
windchymes


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Status: offline 		Ditto that, very well said....

Giving up your rights doesn't mean giving up your common sense. You were a human being before you were a slave. And you still are, no matter what some self-obsessed control freak dominant tells you.

If you are unhappy with your lifestyle, no matter which one you've chosen, this is still the planet Earth, and civilized society supports YOUR decision to end unhappy relationships and begin new ones.

windchymes




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RE: Would like to know - 10/21/2005 8:31:20 AM   
michaelMI


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Status: offline 		after reading your post and those that responded, i think the key part that alot are missing is that this may be a long distance collar and there is a definite void in her life, due to distance. if this is a long distance collar and you are seeking someone closer, it would be proper protocol to discuss this with your current owner and let Him know what is missing and first see if there's any way to correct this, if not, then ask in proper form to be released in order to pursue something closer and more substantial.

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RE: Would like to know - 10/21/2005 12:26:12 PM   
windchymes


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Status: offline 		I re-read her OP and the bottom line still seems to be whether or not a slave can change her mind, be it local or long-distance. And the answer to that is still yes.

I don't think anyone here was suggesting that she up and leave without a backward glance. Of course things should be discussed and worked out, if that is what's truly desired. But if someone has reached a point of knowing that they want out of a relationship, why would they be obligated to stay in it because it belongs under the classification of a "BDSM" relationship? Hell, marriage is actually a legal contract, and people leave those every day!

If distance is the only problem, but neither party is able or willing to relocate, and at least one of the parties involved is unhappy, then why should they even consider staying in the relationship? Since both parties are adults, they should be able to find a way to part amicably and wish each other the best, shouldn't they?

Besides, when you truly care about someone, you want them to be happy and fulfilled. Right? Which might mean releasing them one day. That is a potential outcome of ANY relationship.

It sucks, but life does that.

windchymes

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RE: Would like to know - 10/21/2005 12:35:50 PM   
1CHRONDOM


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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelMI

after reading your post and those that responded, i think the key part that alot are missing is that this may be a long distance collar and there is a definite void in her life, due to distance. if this is a long distance collar and you are seeking someone closer, it would be proper protocol to discuss this with your current owner and let Him know what is missing and first see if there's any way to correct this, if not, then ask in proper form to be released in order to pursue something closer and more substantial.


I agree that people missed that distence point of the post. It seems that another long distance relationship may very well be biteing the dust. In this type relationship one must be very strong to keep it going. Depending on why its a ldr is also a factor. Did you two meet online? Did you meet real time and then had to part? IMO both master and sub/slave have the right to end the relationship. The key is to discuss it first and then you BOTH decide what to do. That way no one is left hurt or confused. Its ok, ldr are hard to maintain. You could also (I don't know if you are or not) discuss becoming poly and therefore be allowed to remain your Master's slave and find a closer Dom to play with when your Master cannot come to see you..or vice versa. Just another suggestion.


< Message edited by 1CHRONDOM -- 10/21/2005 12:36:48 PM >

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RE: Would like to know - 10/21/2005 2:00:20 PM   
swtnsparkling


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Status: offline 		I read the OP and then checked the profile, all the profile said was, Looking for a Master
no other info, so who knows if she is collared or how far or anything else. But i do wonder, how is one a slave if there is a great bit of distance? or why accpet a collar if long distance is'nt what one was looking for? all i mean is i don't understand

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RE: Would like to know - 10/21/2005 6:49:52 PM   
FLButtSlut


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ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

why accpet a collar if long distance is'nt what one was looking for? all i mean is i don't understand


I think what happens is that sometimes people want so much to have a relationship, they don't necessarily realize the difficulties that might be involved long distance or perhaps having no experience in a long distance relationship think they can *handle* it. Once it is happening, THEN they realize all of the difficulties and find that they can't handle it.

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