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jm2k4 -> RE: Question about new masters to bdsm (7/28/2004 12:13:28 AM)

don't be...the internet is suppose to be anonymous right




Thanatosian -> RE: Question about new masters to bdsm (7/28/2004 9:46:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ThornBlood

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

A single tail is a fairly dangerous item (both to wielder and target) if used by somebody who has no practice or experience.

So I would

a) Obtain single tail
b) Go to classes and/or consult with single tail experts
c) Practice, practice, practice, practice. Did I mention practicing?
d) Go to a local BDSM club and arrange to have a single tail expert watch.
e) Use single tail on submissive.
f) Check in frequently with submissive to determine that I was giving her good
pain and not bad pain.


Does that clarify my point a bit?

Sinergy


pillows work well for floggers, dunno about singletails? (Always been afraid of pokin' muh eye out).. guess I would add read, read, read if it's out there.

Just grins and nods in agreement to everything Sinergy said and in the order too,
John


Pillows work for single tails too, although my preference is to hang a towel at about the same height the bottom would stand, then divide (in your mind) the 'safe quadrants' aka shoulder, shoulder, ass, ass (as opposed to kidney kidney and spine spine). Hang it so it's freely swinging, not against a wall. Then you can not only practice hitting your target, but you can also practice the whisper touch. The towel gives you good feedback about where you are landing it (or getting it close to the surface/towel). A whisper touch, placed anywhere you want it to land, is a very handy skill to have.

Now if I could get my left hand to cooperate with that much precision I'd be a happy camper.

I usually tell folks that, once you've got your swing down, 15 to 20 minutes every day will have you a fairly well and competent user in about two weeks.

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Suz


A nice intermediate step between pillows/shirts/baloons and real live human flesh that can help provide some feedback is to practice using the singletail on a pumpkin or watermelon or suchlike - in that if you cut a little too deep with the whip, you will see the marring of the rind and can practice and adjust accordingly

Apply usual caveats here




MizSuz -> RE: Question about new masters to bdsm (7/28/2004 6:28:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Thanatosian

A nice intermediate step between pillows/shirts/baloons and real live human flesh that can help provide some feedback is to practice using the singletail on a pumpkin or watermelon or suchlike - in that if you cut a little too deep with the whip, you will see the marring of the rind and can practice and adjust accordingly

Apply usual caveats here



Ya know, my first reaction was "YEAH!! That's a good idea!" and then I thought about replacing the poppers on my signals and thought...naaaaaaa. With a snake or a bull, something with a fall, I wouldn't be averse to sacrificing a popper to pumpkin mung, but I don't know how to braid a popper into a signal so the cost of having someone else do it, and being without the whip until it's done, would bug me.

I don't especially care for the way whips with falls throw, so I've got signals. Got any suggestions for learning to braid your own poppers?




topcat -> RE: Question about new masters to bdsm (7/28/2004 9:50:17 PM)

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Got any suggestions for learning to braid your own poppers?


Madame-

I'll show you on Saturday. It's pretty easy, actually.

This debate is at the point where I must quote B.Degan...

Towels (or whatever) "don't talk back"

Stay warm,
lLawrence




MrThorns -> RE: Question about new masters to bdsm (7/30/2004 8:20:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: topcat



This debate is at the point where I must quote B.Degan...

Towels (or whatever) "don't talk back"

Stay warm,
lLawrence


I agree with this to a point. You cant get feedback from a towel, or a balloon, or any other inanimate object. But then, there's no need to take them bleeding to the emergency room either.

I'm not going to say that a person needs to practice for x amount of years before even thinking about using a singletail on a living person, but I will say that people need to be honest with themselves about their level of control before making an attempt on human flesh. I know I am not the best whip thrower in these here parts, but I am confident in my ability to control the whip enough, as to not cause any serious harm. I had to practice on a lot of pillows, and pieces of tissue paper before I was able to find that confidence. I guess my point is...use common sense and be honest with yourself about your abilities.

~Thorns




jm2k4 -> RE: Question about new masters to bdsm (7/31/2004 12:22:40 AM)

hm..interesting how this turned out, not that I object(it's helping me understand)




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