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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 11/19/2005 8:22:13 AM   
mistyann


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Status: offline 		I agree it is not forced for me at all and humiliation never I adore Women and am flattered when a Woman dresses me to emulate a Woman.

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 11/19/2005 1:32:07 PM   
interestinglyme


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Status: offline 		OK, I'm going to get hammered by almost every domme that participates in discussions on the boards for this one but............

I am another who is not into this fetish. ALthough I do not mind certain feminzation, and even run classes for feminization, I find that the need for crossdressing or forced crossdressing begins to take over the entire relationship. I can do it, and I don't even mind it as a form of play at times, but it is, too often insisted upon (whining, begging, hinting), and it is the only way a boy gets excited or feels submissive. So I try to avoid it that particular fetish when presented as a need. If I don't, then the fetish is running the relationship. How tiring is that is.

I find it extremely funny that Dusty (who listed forced feminization in her interests, and even stated in her last profile that she was looking for a sissy) has taken both sides of this issue when it serves her purpose. She has also done this with several more if you want to take the time to go through her mindless dribble in order to gain respect on several other threads.

Yes, I contacted her, and yes, I spent more time than I care to admit to, speaking to her in private conversation. Yes, she told me that due to her participation in community theatre, she gained experience in having men dress for role play. Yes, she asked if I would be willing to serve her and another domme who she lives with while feminized.

Dusty, I resent your attempts to make people think you are experienced. I also resent your usage of the term "boy" in all your posts. The reason why I broke contact with you is because I think you are one of the people that you claim to abhor. You've told me you were considering me and another "boy". Please take him. I'm not sure why you spent months playing with me when you knew from my profile I am a crossdresser, and it was mentioned in almost all of our private conversations, but I'm sure you'll find someone that you will agree to do whatever you want in order to find a partner.

Now, everyone that knows her on here can begin to rip me a new asshole.

< Message edited by interestinglyme -- 11/19/2005 1:35:49 PM >

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 11/19/2005 2:04:40 PM   
FTopinMichigan


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quote:

ORIGINAL: interestinglyme
Now, everyone that knows her on here can begin to rip me a new asshole.


Please!...I'm thinking that's "exactly" what you want!
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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 11/19/2005 11:21:03 PM   
GoddessDustyGold


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quote:

ORIGINAL: interestinglyme

OK, I'm going to get hammered by almost every domme that participates in discussions on the boards for this one but............

I am another who is not into this fetish. ALthough I do not mind certain feminzation, and even run classes for feminization, I find that the need for crossdressing or forced crossdressing begins to take over the entire relationship. I can do it, and I don't even mind it as a form of play at times, but it is, too often insisted upon (whining, begging, hinting), and it is the only way a boy gets excited or feels submissive. So I try to avoid it that particular fetish when presented as a need. If I don't, then the fetish is running the relationship. How tiring is that is.

I find it extremely funny that Dusty (who listed forced feminization in her interests, and even stated in her last profile that she was looking for a sissy) has taken both sides of this issue when it serves her purpose. She has also done this with several more if you want to take the time to go through her mindless dribble in order to gain respect on several other threads.

Yes, I contacted her, and yes, I spent more time than I care to admit to, speaking to her in private conversation. Yes, she told me that due to her participation in community theatre, she gained experience in having men dress for role play. Yes, she asked if I would be willing to serve her and another domme who she lives with while feminized.

Dusty, I resent your attempts to make people think you are experienced. I also resent your usage of the term "boy" in all your posts. The reason why I broke contact with you is because I think you are one of the people that you claim to abhor. You've told me you were considering me and another "boy". Please take him. I'm not sure why you spent months playing with me when you knew from my profile I am a crossdresser, and it was mentioned in almost all of our private conversations, but I'm sure you'll find someone that you will agree to do whatever you want in order to find a partner.

Now, everyone that knows her on here can begin to rip me a new asshole.


Mea culpa!
I notice that you have discontinued your profile on the other side, again. So I cannot write to you personally. When I wrote to you, interestinglyme", on November 3rd, you did not reply. You also have My private email and I have not heard from you there either. I know you are going through some time consuming personal matters at this time, so I left it to you to resume correspondence when you felt ready. Apparently you are not ready and never will be. Glad we got that cleared up! *Smile*
However, I do take exception to the fact that I had stated I wanted a sissy in My profile. I have never *wanted* a sissy. And I stand by My words regarding forced femme. It is fun, when it is forced, and at My convenience and for My pleasure. It is not fun when it is necessary for a boy (yes boy) to be in his pretties before he can feel submissive. I do believe that the fetish then is driving the relationship, and, under those circumstances, it is boring Me. I did use the word *need*...not the word *interest*. We discussed this aspect of the lifestyle, and I fear there is a bit of selective memory on your part.
Further, I never told you I had experience dressing boys because of My community theater experience. I am a producer, although I have done other jobs, but I never told you or wrote anywhere that this was where any experience regarding cross dressing comes from. Thank you so much for disclosing personal information about Me, which was shared with you in good faith. . *Shakes head in disappointment*
We began corresponding approximately mid-September. You were referred to Me by another Domina. That last correspondence was on November 3rd. Is 7 or 8 weeks, with breaks in between, really a waste of your time? It must be, because this is not the first time you have shown your impatience with Me. However, you did not do so on a public board. Somewhere between your post on this topic on October 30th, and your post of today, you have become very unhappy with Me. You did not quote Me or indicate your displeasure at that time. Since we have had a bit of correspondence in between, I must be at fault. A second mea culpa.
I am sure there are many who do not know who you are, as you changed nicks. So I will catch everyone up and let all know that you used to be "prettyfellowme". I am not sure who you were before that. I know that was a new nick in September. I wonder who you will be tomorow.
Yes, I do refer to male submissives as boys. It is an endearing term in most cases. It is also quite appropriate in some instances, as the petulant tone of your email indicates.
I wish you the best of luck.

< Message edited by GoddessDustyGold -- 11/19/2005 11:59:17 PM >

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 11/20/2005 12:22:31 AM   
GoddessDustyGold


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quote:

ORIGINAL: interestinglyme

<snipped>because I think you are one of the people that you claim to abhor.


BTW, when did I ever profess to abhor anyone? I may not have the time or interest for certain people and/or things, but I have never said I *abhor* someone in this lifestyle. That's a pretty strong word.

< Message edited by GoddessDustyGold -- 11/20/2005 12:23:08 AM >

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 11/20/2005 10:08:44 AM   
truesubboy


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Status: offline 		Ha, I guess the grass is always greener. From my standpoint, I wish that more Dommes were interested in forced cross dressing.

To answer your question, I think it's another way to help acheive sub space. It takes the sub away from himself, so to speak, and helps him be someone else. It also strips the sub of his identity and masculinity. It is another way of forcing a male sub into a subservient position. I love it.

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 11/20/2005 10:51:51 AM   
stef


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Status: offline 		If you love it, exactly how is it "forced?"

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 11/20/2005 4:28:42 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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Status: offline 		And what makes it "subservient"?

I think it's reasonably easy to find women who will dress men up. I don't think that they are necessarily generalist dominants, though.

YMMV.

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 11/22/2005 8:39:56 AM   
LindaLashes


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Status: offline 		Hmm, for me it´s not "forced" feminization but a rewarded one, something my Mistress would allow me to do, and I would enoy it.
I don´t see feminization as something demeaning, rather it´s liberating for me. I accept and like who I am, both as a regular male out in the streets, and as Linda, the ridiculously tall crossdresser on stilletos

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 11/22/2005 11:16:33 AM   
78787878


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Status: offline 		Perhaps because the Domme can push them to do things they wouldn't normally do (not to say they don't want to). They are happy to be feminized but being pushed to do so provides excitement, encouragement and probably acceptance.

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 11/30/2005 6:12:56 PM   
SolangeRichards


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Status: offline 		I am a lifelong CD with an interest in female-led relationships. My ideal would be a life that includes both submission and feminization. I dress because it's natural to me and I enjoy it. I do not dress as a female to mock women, nor do I use it as an excuse to reinforce negative female stereotypes. When I dress as a female, I act like a lady and work very hard to present a positive female image. No forcing is required to dress 'en femme', nor however would I wish to force it on my partner, or anyone else for that matter. I lead primarily a male life and I enjoy dressing as a male as well. Balance counts, in life and on high heels!

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 12/15/2005 11:39:31 AM   
stephi


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Status: offline 		i have been involved with Mistresses for many years and i am a sissy. i have been dressing on my own most of my life and yet i have been "forced" to dress many times, from Mom on to Mistresses. i believe in the Female being Superior to all males. The idea of putting on panties is fun, Mistress putting them ON me is a power act by Her. The entire female or feminization process is to create a person that is soft, quiet, demour and docile. it works for me! i want to be totally femmed. Please see my profile, you'll see! stephi sissy


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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 12/15/2005 5:39:15 PM   
openmindedslave


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Status: offline 		I must say i never thought of the fact as a man if you were femmed you were some how disrespecting woman. I am not sure if the intention is even considered when a man gets femmed. In fact it seems to me , a form of sacrifice of ones male hood and now you become not a woman either but something that must hide behind closed doors. In fact , i really only know a few ,in this case sissys ,who are more attuned to living more of a full time life as a woman. Most males , who do disire to be femmed may simply seek the desire to please their Mistress and the Mistress is wanting to challenge the male to see how far they will go to express their devotion.

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 12/15/2005 8:31:56 PM   
cloudboy


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Dear All,

I used to be very into crossdressing but luckily the urge has pretty much subsided. The problem with it, or should I say the problem I had with it, is that I am male ---- so being female or being feminized had a way turning me into a bimbo. Next, it made me hate my own male body, which of course lacks breasts and lacks the soft facial features of women. My legs and ass though, they were kick ass.

But this is a digression. In my experience, the vast majority of women DO NOT like cross dressers and are turned off by CDs and TVs. Furthermore, most women just don't get it, so as a CD it was very hard to form a connection to a sympathetic women. My own eperience was corroborated by web starlette TV, Barbi Satin, a six foot plus stunning man who now has implants. Barbi maxed out gender crossing, pushing it to to the limit, and I asked her with whom she had the best relationships. Her reply was "with other CDs and TSs and not women." For Barbi, the majority of women were turned off by her, a chick with a very large dick.

Back to me, I am what you would call a regular guy who was a fetishistic. So what I needed was a woman who could somehow mold me in that netherland that I would best describe as sissyhood. In the end and the best experience I found was serving a domme here in Baltimore as her sissy maid. This allowed me to be feminine and it allowed me to have a role (being a maid.) It was truly a great experience of escape and shedding of self with a few mixed sentiments of "what the fuck am I doing." This domme was really good with me and she had a real method to her madness. I became nothing more than a maid and object in her service, which is not to imply she didn't care for me. Anyway, I found her exceptional, and for her the feminization was a powerful tool to exercise control over me. From her end, her problem was how CDs get their fetish fix and shed the role ---- or put another way, are not necessarily suited to service and work for long periods of time. (She wanted a maid, not just a jism seeking kinkster who's in and out of heels before and after the dirty deed.)

Now I am with a Mistress who has shown me the role of masculine submission, and the real joy of this is that I get to be me, which plays to the strengths I was given. We joke though, because I am definitely like the girl in our relationship. What I found with her is that dressing just gets in the way of our natural connection. It makes me self conscious and doesn't suit a strong purpose.

So, the lesson might be, is one submissive or just strictly a fetishist. A submissive (as in my case) can find serving a Mistress great w/o CDing. For a true fetishist, though, such may not be possible.

Cloudboy

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 1/18/2006 10:07:09 PM   
nightfly44


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Status: offline 		I can't speak for anyone else; I love wearing female clothing, but never knew any woman who could handle the idea. So the idea of forced feminization for me is just part of finding a woman who's into something else i.e., being dominant, and using that in some way to get her to accept having me dressed up as a girl. I'm not really into pain, or bondage, or being dominated. I'd much rather have an equal relationship. But the chance of that is virtually none. so I offer up myself, willing to be whatever she wants me to be, if I can have my turn at being the 'girly' one once in a while. I'm not a 'normal' guy. I don't rush into sex. I'd much rather just hold her and play with her hair and stuff. I'm not real good at intercourse, I know that sometimes it takes a long time for a woman to get turned on, and kind of like giving head for a long time while watching her enjoy it. That makes me less attractive to most women, who want a 'real' man, someone who is dominant, who runs the show, who has an ever ready erection. So I'm willing to submit to whatever it takes to get a woman to accept the female side of me.

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 1/18/2006 10:48:38 PM   
subfever


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Status: offline 		Crossdressing is something I can't imagine ever pursuing. However, it also wouldn't be on my list of hard limits, if it's important to the Domme.

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 8/3/2006 2:35:19 PM   
Emma7


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Status: offline 		I love to dress now ........ I live for it , it has taken of my life, Yes to feel very  girly , makes me sub , and wana worship the female ......Just need to find one ..........Help ......emma

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 8/30/2006 8:16:03 AM   
kittencurious


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quote:

ORIGINAL: tasha_tart
It does distress me a wee bit, how much CDs are looked down upon, even in a forum such as this.


i'm thankful those who look down upon us have exposed themselves, and even more thankful for the block button.

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 8/30/2006 8:45:07 AM   
MistressSassy66


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Status: offline 		I have said before for some Cross Dressing can be humiliating...at first.
I have had a few males walk away with a new understanding.
Some have even started wearing girlie things because they had a chance to be exposed to
dressing that way here.

I like A/all people for their personalities not their preferences.

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RE: Forced Crosdressing - 8/30/2006 9:06:14 AM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		I don't FORCE my sub to CD he does so because I allow him too. he has always had a hidden desire to do it and finally voiced it to me as he trusts me. I don't have any feelings about it either way so I told him if its something you wish to try you have my permission to do so.

We tried it and found it to be a very big turn on for him and I find it quite comical to watch this 6'4" 240lb man in a french maid costume doing housework with a huge woody in his panties lol. I enjoy sitting there with him as he does my makeup and helps me get dressed, then I sit and watch him as he gets ready. he actually does look good in thigh hi's, he has sexy legs.

I don't know maybe its because I love him that it doesnt bother me, or another thought I've had is because I'm also bisexual that gender doesnt make a big difference to me? I'm not sure myself all I know is it doesn't bother me and we are having fun with it. I am the Mistress and he is the sub, he submits whether he is in jeans and boots or a french maids costume.

~Lashra and slutjack

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