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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 9:14:54 PM

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Well first...lol i have been in a abusive relationship before.....and this is far from being one.Secondly..i think many have taken this topic out of its original context. Master was stating that MANY submissive/slaves do not feel they should show respect........Maybe its my upbringing...but you should show respect to all unless given a reason not too and if i do recall...when emerald requested not to be little one...he no longer did.....now it may be Master's opinions diffrer from a few of ya'll but name calling and saying nasty things which you know nothing about is a bit un called for.There are many who think just because this Master is not the one they serve they can be disrespectful and not show manners which i think is still being taught in our homes...vanilla and alternative.If you do not know someone who is your elder...be lifestyle or not...you say yes sir or no sir until corrected.....i have had a few Masters and Mistresses and they all belived in proper manners.Now for goodness sake...if you do not agree so be it.....but i can assure u i am far from being abused because i know how to be nice and i know what Master likes and dislikes...and Master knows me well enough when i am out for $hits and giggles....So just a note to all......if u disagree fine.....but please dont be too outspoken that you have the boards closed cause i try to be polite too all...be Master/Dom/Top/sub/slave/bottom.....but when someone makes nasty lil comments and take things out of context just to suit their opinion it does leave this slave a bad taste in this slaves mouth.Now Master has told me to not respond to this comment and i am sure i will recieve a smack on the rear for this one.....but the Master i serve has NEVER....and would NEVER struck me out of anger or has ever left a mark on my skin which wasnt gone by morning like a little red on the rear...which with my opinonated mouth i deserve from time to time and do not fight what i know i need to learn to behave.......So please restate your comment please because that is very very rude and you know what people say about those who assume to much...lol....Now i appologize if i have offended anyone with this message...but when you try to bait the Master i serve and say lies...it ruffles this girls tail feathers......but i will appologize to the monitors on this site and the others who are stating their constructive critism........Blessed be ALL

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 9:38:23 PM

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......how could that if I was at lets take for instance IronBears home and He asked bella politely to help with serving the men and the free of the home and she said neener neener......I would let IronBear take the first round with her then I would take up round two....

You have the nerve to say I take a Kamakazi approach??? Look at your words, you would offer another man to beat your woman and then beat her yourself.
It does not surprise me that you do not get racism when it is right in your face, because I assume you feel superior to other races as you do the female gender and probably have as much respect!
Hey maybe if you and Ironbear keep charming and defending PP, maybe you can beat her one day too.

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 9:50:36 PM

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I just got through reading your profile...are you a man hater or something? have something against the way I would disclipine my slave? even with another Master? I thought that by reading your profile that you were interested in playing with others? sounds kinds fishy too me the wy you come across...maybe you should read belladonna82's post and remind yourself if this is what I choose then this is the way it is......makes me a bad guy?as far as charming PP she is a great person and brings more to the thread than derisive comments that others have made........I dont hate woman I do adore them........explain to me where you are coming from with this post as so I can make sense of it

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 10:13:44 PM

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I tend to call women I do not know dear ... I think that is along the lines of what Six was trying to say. If you'll notice he does not cap my name when he calls me Tony... however he also doesn't cap his own I's ... so it is not a lack of respect, but the sign of a lazy typist LOL....
Before we jump in and start taking swings, we should look at what medium we are using. Much of communication is non-verbal… it is not or words, but the setting, tones, body language we use that help to express our meanings.
Emerald Girl, I have read several of your posts. While I do not always agree, I do enjoy them. Your Master is one lucky man.
Iron Bear, you remind me of a real life friend on mine.
Six, I don’t know you well enough yet… but I think we have some points in common… sometimes it’s fun to kick the bee hive and see what happens…
I do agree that common or should it be called uncommon courtesy is the grease that keeps the wheels of society moving… we have to make allowances for different cultures and upbringings. The world has moved on… kids do not have the same manners we did.. TV is more violent. Today’s music sucks.. and on and on…
We can live in the past… try to make our world better… or deal with what is happening.
I’m betting Emily Post is spinning in her grave…
Funny thing… my grandparents had the same complaints… I’m thinking it never ends…
Tony

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 10:34:19 PM

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I just got through reading your profile...are you a man hater or something? have something against the way I would disclipine my slave? even with another Master? I thought that by reading your profile that you were interested in playing with others? sounds kinds fishy too me the wy you come across...maybe you should read belladonna82's post and remind yourself if this is what I choose then this is the way it is......makes me a bad guy?as far as charming PP she is a great person and brings more to the thread than derisive comments that others have made........I dont hate woman I do adore them........explain to me where you are coming from with this post as so I can make sense of it

Master Six

No I don't hate men, in fact outside of MsN, my best friend is a heterosexual male.
I do need to update my profile, thanks for mentioning it, because it reminded me to do so. It does not pertain to my situation anymore, but wanted to be respectful and wait because I know the mod's have had their hands full as of late.

Yes, I do have a problem with anyone Beating anyone, could you not comunicate with your slave that she was wrong in your eye's to being a smart mouth and you expect her to be polite and help with the clean-up instead of not only beating her yourself but allowing another to beat her first?
Do you not have the words to communicate and be effective in your relationship, that you have to take a simple matter and have a beating fest over it?
I do understand forms of dicipline, as my Domina has Her ways of teaching me and I try my best to learn from Her wisdom. But she would never Beat me or allow another too either.
To me this is a form of abuse and just because you may have brain washed your slave into believing such as a natural happing in the "Gorean world", does not make it right. I think there can be effective ways to dicipline without beating someone black and blue and allowing others to do the same.
I do think men who take a work of fiction to manipulate a woman or women to think that being beaten black and blue is okay, to be bad guys, yes, my personal opinion.
And you will not gain a smidget of my respect as a man or a master, this has nothing to do with the simple fact of your gender.

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 11:15:12 PM

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ok thats a little better without the flame.....the infraction and the punishment will somewhat mirror the other.....if you can understand where im coming from...I dont know how much you know about the Gorean lifestyle but if your under the impression that we beat our women you should go out and buy a couple of the first two books.......Tarl was against slavery and never used his whip on a woman.....the second was book was about ruling with compassion and love.........read some of my other posts and see what I have to say.......I rule with love and compassion not the whip...I am NOT a sadist nor do I have sadistic tendicies.....if I use anything on bella it is usually my hand or a belt...yes even the words out of my mouth.......there was a time she fought against the things I was teaching her she was an emotional wreck when I met her and I was forced to deal with her topping from the bottom alot...what did I do you ask? I sent her to her mothers for a week and didnt answer her calls or her emails...she came back a week later a changed slave with a much better outlook on the point I was trying to get across to her...she is a very opionated little thing which held its own set of challenges for me and I prevailed...this isnt about brainwashing in any form...this is about emotional release of the things we all tend to cling to from the former life we all lead at one time *gasp* vanilla.........im not here trying to say that I speak the gospel or my way us better than yours.........I am a psychology major and human behaviour is in the least interesting to me......ive been around an alternative lifestyle for the better part of a decade...not sayiing that I havent made mistakes either or that im all knowing...but a simple set of principles is how I look at things that others say or do...im not the judge jury or executioner...I invite each to share their experiences and we may all learn a little something from it.......I try and give everyone some respect regardless of thier kink or lifestyle......read some of my other posts...you want to see the human part of me read the thread about the d's unplanned pregnacy..I beared my soul there for all to read and I try and bear it to all that listen.......but enough of my rambling

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 11:32:21 PM

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.I am NOT a sadist nor do I have sadistic tendicies.....if I use anything on bella it is usually my hand or a belt...

A belt or a hand can be abusive...Also why then do you speak of beating her black and blue and that you would allow another to do so too?
At this point I am going to bite my tounge and just say....No further comment!

*Brightspot

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 11:37:51 PM

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well lets see if there was an infraction in another mans home by her through the neener neener and disrespected him in that way and I had tried to teach her better then we would both have a serious talk with her...the funny thing about your questions is how you would like to try poly but yet you will limit such things as punishment...are you only involved in what makes you feel good at the time? If you show out in front of others in this way and disrespect them and maybe theoretically you have more than one mistress can only one punish you?

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 11:38:40 PM

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Yes, I do have a problem with anyone Beating anyone, could you not comunicate with your slave that she was wrong in your eye's to being a smart mouth and you expect her to be polite and help with the clean-up instead of not only beating her yourself but allowing another to beat her first?

If your against anyone beating anyone ... you may want to take a long looksee at the website your on. Some people believe that as a Top you have the right to use corporal punishment on your bottom.. well ok her/his bottom... LOL The bottom's bottom.
Your posting your against it on a BDSM site seems a bit silly.
Having read belladona’s posts and her journal I think it very unlikely she is a brain washed helpless victim. Point in order, Six left her alone while he was in California…
And part of his punishment was sending her home to mommy’s…
I, for one have never heard an abuser doing that. Sorry Six I just don’t think your that talented that you could brain wash your girl that well… LOL
He is not isolating her, and she is speaking out here. In my experience BDSM lifestyle people are very quick to point out what they see as abuse.
Now you may not respect me either and that’s your right. But are you not pushing your views onto the rest of us. You hit a woman so your abusive. I’m thinking I misunderstood you.
If not, think where you are.. and understand that a Master that beats his girls ass until she is black and blue is no more having to be an abuser then a lesbian has to be a man hating bytch. You try and tell fawn that she is freed from my ever spanking her again.. and she might just have a few words to say about that and to you…
Oh and for the record.. in CANADA you have the legal right to physically punish you children… are you going to call me an abusive father too?
Tony

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 11:41:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: SirSix72

well lets see if there was an infraction in another mans home by her through the neener neener and disrespected him in that way and I had tried to teach her better then we would both have a serious talk with her...
Master Six

Been there and did that. I spoke with the Master before and let him know MY limits for punishment. (the comment was "suck it up big boy").. funny thing we all joke about it now .. and it turned into a wonderful little play party...
Tony

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 11:46:49 PM

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A belt or a hand can be abusive...Also why then do you speak of beating her black and blue and that you would allow another to do so too?
At this point I am going to bite my tounge and just say....No further comment!

And there is no knife as sharp as the spoken word. The pen is mightier then the sword... get the point? heh
Having had a verbally abusive father... I would much rather have had the belt.
And yes I had the belt on several occasions.
Here is a question… is Six basing his way of life any worse then reading the Bible and doing the same thing…
Spare he rode and spoil the child…
Or the Koran ….
Or Dr Spock’s book?
If the two of them are happy… so be it.
Tony

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 11:52:34 PM

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its easy to brainwash them I keep losing money on detergent and the washcloths get stuck in between thier ears lmfaorotf

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/24/2005 11:54:39 PM

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its easy to brainwash them I keep losing money on detergent and the washcloths get stuck in between thier ears lmfaorotf

Ok what's the name of the detergent your using... and can I find it up here???
There is this lil cutie fawn and I have our eyes on.... hehe
Tony

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/25/2005 12:13:36 AM

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its called bubblysubbies

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/25/2005 12:17:54 AM

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If your against anyone beating anyone ... you may want to take a long looksee at the website your on. Some people believe that as a Top you have the right to use corporal punishment on your bottom.. well ok her/his bottom... LOL The bottom's bottom.
Your posting your against it on a BDSM site seems a bit silly.

I know exactly which site I am on.
For some, yes, corporal punishment is a way they use for disipline, and to me if that is a consenual thing between the parties involved, and the one being spanked, caned, whipped is not seriously damaged, physically or emotionally and is taken care of afterwords then Live and let live!

But beating someone black and blue out of anger is abusive, that is my personal opinion and don't think it at all silly. And anyone living in a situation where they are beaten and are allowed to be beaten by others as well and think that is okay and they can not speak up out of fear of being beaten again, they should head to a shelter and start on a road to healing and sanity.

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/25/2005 12:21:03 AM

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And there is no knife as sharp as the spoken word. The pen is mightier then the sword... get the point?

I was speaking of communication, not bashing with words, do you get the point?.

*Brightspot

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/25/2005 12:26:11 AM

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Oh and for the record.. in CANADA you have the legal right to physically punish you children… are you going to call me an abusive father too?
Tony

First, I never called you an abusive anything.
Second, it would depend on how you punish your children.
Yes, there are many instances where I think authorities should be notified
concerning the abuse of children and I would not hesitate to call you on it.

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/25/2005 12:35:07 AM

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ah ... I missed you saying out of anger the 1st time... That is a HUGE difference.
I have defined the main difference between abuse as discipline as being that discipline is done to correct a behaviour that is unpleasing. And abuse is to vent your spleen.
Funny how often those who want to beat someone to give them a piece of their mind .. are the very people that can least afford to give any of it away…
Ok if that last joke didn’t make a lot of sense … it’s late and it’s been a weird day… had to put out a few fire so to speak ..
OK then…. Let’s see if I have it right…. if the beating is done with consent it’s ok to beat them black and blue… if its an attack on them out of anger .. it’s abuse.
Works for me… ;-)
Here is a funny twist to Canadian law… if someone dies during a fist fight.. and the attacker stops once the person is down.. you cannot be charged… you can consent to that type of beating.. but cannot consent to having your ass paddled….
Tony

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/25/2005 12:36:00 AM

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And there is no knife as sharp as the spoken word. The pen is mightier then the sword... get the point?

I was speaking of communication, not bashing with words, do you get the point?.

*Brightspot

yup you stuck it too me LOL

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RE: The your not my Dom syndrome - 10/25/2005 12:38:25 AM

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Now you may not respect me either and that’s your right. But are you not pushing your views onto the rest of us. You hit a woman so your abusive. I’m thinking I misunderstood you.
If not, think where you are.. and understand that a Master that beats his girls ass until she is black and blue is no more having to be an abuser then a lesbian has to be a man hating bytch. You try and tell fawn that she is freed from my ever spanking her again..

Where is any of this chit coming from?
One I am not a lesbian man hating bitch, and you lowering yourself to such tactic's is juvenile. And then you equate that with beating someone black and blue and also adding ass, is that really the only place you beat your slave, Phoenxx?
I have not tried to tell fawn anything, haven't even spoken to her, if you do not want fawn to read anything that might make sense to her or because she may learn something outside the control you impliment, even though I was not speaking to you personally, maybe you better bar her from the boards too, out of your fear of her possibly becoming enlightened.

*Brightspot

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