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RE: Breaking stubbornness! - 10/26/2007 7:03:34 PM

angelic

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geezus... i just realized this freaking thing is 2 years old!!

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RE: Breaking stubbornness! - 10/26/2007 7:23:19 PM

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(It's not two years old any more!)

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RE: Breaking stubbornness! - 10/26/2007 7:50:31 PM

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Even though this thread is 2 years old, I found the question of interest, and also was interested in the responses and the advice. Even though the original poster is probably long gone (and I am willing to bet, not with the same girl), I think the information would be useful to lots of others. That is the neat thing about this forum, it presents the possibility of learning valuable information, and also gaining insight into the thoughts and experiences of others.

To the advice already given, I'd add, try watching porn movies with the girl. Ummm.....sort of basic porn, I'd not recommend jumping right into bukkake. She'd have a chance to watch an experienced woman giving a BJ, and she'd also get to see how much this sight arouses her Master. Then, with some gentle encouragement, she could mimic that behavior with his cock, and be given lots of positive feedback for her efforts. For many people, the sort of voyeuristic/exhibitionistic pleasure of having sex while watching porn helps to overcome mild inhibitions.

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RE: Breaking stubbornness! - 10/26/2007 8:45:34 PM

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I guess it just depends on the person cause I know one person who can work all day come home and smell like something awful, and I won't put my face there period, unless they wash and are not offensive in odor to me even after washing. other people, like my x could go 3 days with out showering and now granted we weren't doing any hard labor if we were it might of changed, and I'd quite happily put my face in his crotch. Bottom line, if they stink and or are offensive to me, my face isn't going in their crotch.

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I suppose if one is working with a person who finds this action intolerable this might help... it is not something that I would personally allow to become a "rule". Don;t get me wrong, I am a clean person... but I am not so worried about a little sweat that I feel I have to be just from the shower clean the moment she puts her mouth on me.

It is common, for instance, for both myself and the other dominants I knwo to make use of our property when we get back from work. That would mean I am a full workday away from my morning shower - she'll just have to live with that :)

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RE: Breaking stubbornness! - 10/26/2007 10:42:00 PM

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they have clone a willy kits, far more effective in my mind, to learn the art with than something that's totally diffrent but perhaps kind of similar lol.

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. As others said get a dildo about the same size and have her practice every day with the thing until shes in shape to do so.

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RE: Breaking stubbornness! - 10/28/2007 6:17:19 AM

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I've heard that many women really like having chocolate after giving blowjobs. It's useful in getting rid of the taste afterwards. My girl used to do that until she found out that she just loved the taste and pleasing me so that she didn't want it anymore.

On a more serious note; you can either approach this from the training perspective, i.e. rewards and punishments. Or you can go another way, understand her psyche and get her to want it. How to do the latter depends a lot on the person (also whether it works). For my girl, what usually works is that I back off, ask her how she feels about it probing things really deep to understand what the problem is. You need to carefully think about the actual physical problems she may be having, as well as the emotional problems attached to it. Both need to be solved.. As for the emotional, backing off, but letting her know that at some point in the future she will enjoy doing that, even crave to do that. I also proceed by letting her understand how much it gives me pleasure, and that it is important to me that she can serve me in that way (and tease her about how she will come to love serving me that way). .

I may then let her explore the thing in question with her own pace for a while, to let her get positive feelings about it. In case of blowjobs, I would probably get her excited and then ask her to kiss my groin and my penis. Licking the shaft and telling her how good it feels. If she asks permission to take it in her mouth, I may refuse her to build positive anticipation for the next time. I would continue talking to her how wonderful and exciting it would be, if she can find a way to surrender that part of herself to me. And at some point the magic has happened, and I just know she's ready. When I proceed and take things the way I want them, she is happy to serve and she beams with pride for having crossed the limits she thought she had.

This kind of approach will not work with everyone, but if she has a great desire to serve and to please, you may want to give it a shot. And no matter what kind of a person she is, it's useful to understand the problems both physical and psychological that she has (makes it easier to push through them).

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RE: Breaking stubbornness! - 10/28/2007 11:12:09 AM

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stubborness... usually in conjuction with "bratty sub/slave"... meaning she wants to submit when it suits her... ask her clearly are you or are you not the sub/slave..

if its a matter of not knowing how and needing to learn how to please, then its YOUR job to teach her what you like and teach her how to do it. if you are getting resistance in her effort, then chances are you have a bratty sub/slave. get rid of her

i dont expect perfection.. only perfect intent

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