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summersprite -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 3:33:29 AM)

Thank you camille65. Well put.

An OP asks. Everyone answers. We only answer on the information that we have. Yes, it might be blunt... but generally it's to the point.

Edited to note that the OP responded in the last post.... and I replied before I read it....




camille65 -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 3:36:57 AM)

IMO the flavor of replies is directly dependent upon the flavor of the questions. OP, I can't figure out why you are being nasty when you have been given solid advice. If you don't like the replies then simply ignore them and take the positive information given.There is no thread that I know of that only has happy positive replies given, that is the nature of a public forum. Hopefully the change you made with your profile will take care of that problem.




DominatrixDreams -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 3:43:40 AM)

 I do hope that changing the line will do the trick and thankyou for your feedback.
Youre probably right about my getting 'snarky' whatever that means lol. Sometimes it seems to me as though people see 'pro domme' and make their minds up about me when they know nothing about me. I apologise for any 'snarkiness'.

quote:

ORIGINAL: camille65

Dropping that line may make all the difference in being able to keep the profile alive and well.OP, hopefully that was the problem but if not just contact CM and ask.  No one was being snarky, you asked a question and got replies until you were the one that got huffy. Seriously. You ask why your profile is being deleted and when folks say its because of the money bit, you get angry and defensive.




Prinsexx -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 3:46:14 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DominatrixDreams


Yes, I am a pro domme, but I NEVER ever tout for business, I never spam or bully and the only time I even mention my profession is when another asks me outright if they can have details.

But I am curious as to why you are on collarme.
Is it for the forums?
Is it to find a relationship?
IMPO there must be some issue whereby your profileor your mails to other members break the TOS.
I have had warnings from Moderators and I accept that they were justified.
Just my opinion.
We all live in the same world.
Ed. to add: also responded directly to the OP without reading through others' responses.




lostinthefog -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 3:46:21 AM)

*giggles* I love a fiesty Miss M. post in the morning with my coffee![:D] Take no prisoners Miss M.


quote:

ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

A. Don't call me "love". B. Make up your mind. You don't ask for money. You aren't here to tout for clients. You're profile says that you do not want any personal subs. I don't think you know what the fuck you are doing, but I can fully see how YOU pissed off enough people to get  your profile pulled, and MORE than once. Noone else here has had their profile pulled. Not non pros and not pros. Hmmmmmmm see a pattern?


Grow a brain.




HalloweenWhite -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 3:50:52 AM)

lol I just proved I didn't read the T.O.S woops. I didn't know that one of the things they say is about agree C.M can pull what they want when they want, I'm guessing neither did DominatrixDreams, which makes My wonder why, since at least -some- have yet to read the T.O.S, C.M don't just send a quick note about something they have a problem with.




RavenMuse -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 3:52:23 AM)

Whilst the OP seems so far up her own backside that she likely reqires shipping daylight (not just a random insult, but rather one reason why she might be having such problems... her own attitude). she does have a valid point. There are many petulent and childish people out there who will use an automated system maliciously... much like she 'threatens to do with any sub who mails her more than once (Which doesn't meet any definition of spam mail I would recognise)

My girl backed off a couple of trolls and in responce they reported her profile (For some fictional reason... as there certainly isn't a valid one)... purely from spite because they didn't get what they wanted. OK it has only happened once, rather than the OP's numerous times. but it only takes one or two petulant trolls.

So even though the OP is getting peoples backs up... there is a valid point in the OP.




RCdc -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 4:01:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HalloweenWhite

lol I just proved I didn't read the T.O.S woops. I didn't know that one of the things they say is about agree C.M can pull what they want when they want, I'm guessing neither did DominatrixDreams, which makes My wonder why, since at least -some- have yet to read the T.O.S, C.M don't just send a quick note about something they have a problem with.


Because they treat us like adults?  If you sign up to a service, you should read the terms so that things like this don't happen.  Otherwise the peeps at CM would be accused of nannying.  You sign up that you have read the terms.  If you do not read them - that ignorance is no excuse in the real world and the net is no different - and if they pull without having informed why, then the responsibility is yours and not theirs.  The Terms of Service are there when you sign up, they are there on the site contantly and are easy to find.  Most of it is common sense and that which isn't it is easy to sift through and find.
 
We do not pay for the site - and it is our responsibilty to ourselves and our own profiles to keep them within the terms - not up to CM staff.  The staff are here to look after the site and not hold our hands if we can't be bothered to read their TOS.  Hope that helps your question.
 
the.dark.




DominatrixDreams -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 4:28:18 AM)

quote]ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

I SAY why I am here.....My whole point is that I have had no warnings..thats why I began the thread in the first place if you recall?

'
quote:

ORIGINAL: DominatrixDreams
I am a professional domme and am not seeking personal slaves, so please dont ask. I am here to chat and exchange views with likeminded people.'





But I am curious as to why you are on collarme.
Is it for the forums?
Is it to find a relationship?
IMPO there must be some issue whereby your profileor your mails to other members break the TOS.
I have had warnings from Moderators and I accept that they were justified.
Just my opinion.
We all live in the same world.
Ed. to add: also responded directly to the OP without reading through others' responses.





HalloweenWhite -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 4:35:46 AM)

Y/you are of course right, W/we're all adults and if W/we want to be treated like such W/we have to behave like it, I should/could have read the T.O.S and it's entirely My fault that I haven't read them. The reason I suggested C.M send notes to people about things they have a problem with was because I've seen them actively do it from time to time over things like posts in the wrong forum, or comments about people's comments on threads so I just thought it made sense.

But you're right, I didn't take everything into account before I made My post. "It's a fair cop" as they say.




pinkwind -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 4:38:41 AM)

Having had a look at your profile, and the first paragraph, i couldn't fault it, straightforward as it was in declaring why you were on the site.

quote:

I am a professional domme and am not seeking personal slaves, so please dont ask. I am here to chat and exchange views with likeminded people.


What i thought would follow would have been a description of yourself, something that those interested could gauge if they were of like mind and found compatible interests to base exchanges of views and chat. But no, disappointingly. What followed read more like an advert for your services, granted without mention of payment, but then you had already stated earlier your professional status.

quote:

I can explore your dreams, I can get inside your mind, take your realities and turn them into the stuff of nightmares. With a glance, I can begin to assess your needs and darkest desires. I will discover your triggers and use them to terrify and thrill and you will worship me for it.

I am a sensual and highly sadistic dominatrix who is not interested in listening to your fantasies about things that you will never have the courage to do.
I deal in the realities of life as well as the dreams and am willing to chat to anyone who talks sense. If you message me, make it something interesting and TELL ME that you have read my profile in full, or your mail will not be answered.

I do not respond to profiles less that a month old, so go away and wait. If I receive mail from people who have sent identical messages before to myself and others, they are blocked and reported to admin for spamming.


From this i am sorry to say you seem to be getting the responses you deserve because of the implication of your chosen wording, IMHO. Maybe a reworking of your profile to take more account of the fact that you are here for chatting and exchanging views and less of your professional ethos would encourage people to contact you for that very purpose.

Just a thought.





DominatrixDreams -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 4:40:53 AM)

You are right and I hold up my hand to this. I was lazy and just checked the 'reasons to report a profile' and thought they were the only rules. I WILL read the TOS as you advise and thankyou.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

quote:

ORIGINAL: HalloweenWhite

lol I just proved I didn't read the T.O.S woops. I didn't know that one of the things they say is about agree C.M can pull what they want when they want, I'm guessing neither did DominatrixDreams, which makes My wonder why, since at least -some- have yet to read the T.O.S, C.M don't just send a quick note about something they have a problem with.


Because they treat us like adults?  If you sign up to a service, you should read the terms so that things like this don't happen.  Otherwise the peeps at CM would be accused of nannying.  You sign up that you have read the terms.  If you do not read them - that ignorance is no excuse in the real world and the net is no different - and if they pull without having informed why, then the responsibility is yours and not theirs.  The Terms of Service are there when you sign up, they are there on the site contantly and are easy to find.  Most of it is common sense and that which isn't it is easy to sift through and find.
 
We do not pay for the site - and it is our responsibilty to ourselves and our own profiles to keep them within the terms - not up to CM staff.  The staff are here to look after the site and not hold our hands if we can't be bothered to read their TOS.  Hope that helps your question.
 
the.dark.





DominatrixDreams -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 4:43:26 AM)

Many thanks for your CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. I will alter my profile as you suggest so watch this space!

quote:

ORIGINAL: pinkwind

Having had a look at your profile, and the first paragraph, i couldn't fault it, straightforward as it was in declaring why you were on the site.

quote:

I am a professional domme and am not seeking personal slaves, so please dont ask. I am here to chat and exchange views with likeminded people.


What i thought would follow would have been a description of yourself, something that those interested could gauge if they were of like mind and found compatible interests to base exchanges of views and chat. But no, disappointingly. What followed read more like an advert for your services, granted without mention of payment, but then you had already stated earlier your professional status.

quote:

I can explore your dreams, I can get inside your mind, take your realities and turn them into the stuff of nightmares. With a glance, I can begin to assess your needs and darkest desires. I will discover your triggers and use them to terrify and thrill and you will worship me for it.

I am a sensual and highly sadistic dominatrix who is not interested in listening to your fantasies about things that you will never have the courage to do.
I deal in the realities of life as well as the dreams and am willing to chat to anyone who talks sense. If you message me, make it something interesting and TELL ME that you have read my profile in full, or your mail will not be answered.

I do not respond to profiles less that a month old, so go away and wait. If I receive mail from people who have sent identical messages before to myself and others, they are blocked and reported to admin for spamming.


From this i am sorry to say you seem to be getting the responses you deserve because of the implication of your chosen wording, IMHO. Maybe a reworking of your profile to take more account of the fact that you are here for chatting and exchanging views and less of your professional ethos would encourage people to contact you for that very purpose.

Just a thought.






RCdc -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 5:13:51 AM)

Hi HW
 
I don't know if you are aware, but the forum is CC - not CM - so the moderators are spereate and there are a different set of guidelines.  The moderators on the message board do not moderate Collarme profiles so it's all different.  JFYI.[:)]
 
the.dark.




RCdc -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 5:18:12 AM)

You are welcome.  Personally I don't find anything wrong with your profile, but I can see how it can come across as an ad and be an issue with the terms.  It is hard to find that fine line sometimes.
 
the.dark.




HalloweenWhite -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 5:22:15 AM)

No, I didn't know that, I do know though. Ty.




RCdc -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 5:25:11 AM)

You are welcome (and thank you for ignoring my typos)[;)]
 
the.dark.




Leatherist -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 5:25:36 AM)

Sounds like the "whore hunters" have it in for you.




DiurnalVampire -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 5:31:07 AM)

To the OP:
This is a quick response since its before work and I don thave time to read every reply on here.
You dont have to actually do anything but piss off those who write to you to get yanked. They pull profiles on quanitity of reports, and if you are getting a lot of disgruntled responses you are probably getting reported.
I am shocked I havent been pulled yet, since I turn down tons of people mailing me and begging to serve when I say I am not looking.
You have the double whammy, you initially say you are a pro (and there is a small faction on here who believe that that is ALL that is necessary to report your profile, they do not think Pros should be allowed on a free site, yadda yadda yadda) and you report others and let them know you are going to do it.  They might be trying to beat you to the punch. If you plan on reporting people... just dont make it known. Thats why they dont get emails notifiying them every time there is a report, so why announce it?

Good luck with adjusting your profile and keeping it up this time.
DV




Leatherist -> RE: PROFILE DELETION. SURELY NOT FAIR???? (6/3/2008 5:33:17 AM)

Oh wow,she actually TELLS people she is going to report them?

How masochistic.




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