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"Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 9:51:10 AM

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Do Masters ever take back a Slave that they have " released". My Master released me recently because of a lack of communciation on both sides that resulted in a breakdown in trust. Things came to light yesterday that cleared things up in my mind. I called him and left a message, asking him to call me back. He did. I apologized profusely for my lack of trust in regards to him and apologized also for the way things were handled. I told him that I feel he has half of the blame on his doorstep as well. He is an extremely private person, which I have respected wholeheartedly in the two years we have been together, however, in a two year period of time, after having never once been allowed to see where he lives, meet anyone he knows, yes, my patience wore thin. My trust wore thin. I exploded on him this past weekend. I questioned his trustworthiness. He, in anger, released me. I called him yesterday and told him that things had come to light in regards to him, and, that, I have come to realize that, yes, he was on the up and up the whole time. However, I feel that the way he chose to communicate or not communicate with me only aggrevated the situation.. I feel that we both hold equal responsibility in this mess. I know the man cares for me a great deal. I care for him a great deal. He said that he needs to work all of this out in his mind and then he and I will sit down and talk.. does this mean that there is even a snowballs chance in hell that we can start fresh, or, is being "released" a cut and dry term?

RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 10:24:32 AM

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um, wow. Have you read your own question?!

"....in the two years we have been together, however, in a two year period of time, after having never once been allowed to see where he lives, meet anyone he knows,...."

Is this really the kind of relationship that you want? It sounds to me as if you want a different kind of relationship. Perhaps you should look within you to find the answers to your questions.

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 10:32:26 AM

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Of course they do, but even if he does take you back you will still have the unresolved issue between you which drove you apart and made you mistrust him to begin with. After 2 years any sane person would have concerns if they never were allowed over their partners home or introduced to any of their friends. Sounds like he is either married or living with his parents. This isn't just a privacy issue would be my gut instinct.

How did things come to light in one day and you decided he was on the up and up all this time - i am curious to know.

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 10:36:00 AM

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ok so it depends very much on what you want

do you want to be in a relationship where you Owner ... the man that OWNS you ... your MASTER .. the man who controls you, makes decisions for you .. etc etc etc ... that man ... do you want to be in a relationship where even to you his SLAVE ... he keeps things secret? Now I think the answer will be yes for you, for whatever reason you want to be with this guy and have made it work for two years and you are now looking to get some kind of singal from these boards that it can work. If it works for you ... then go with it ... if it doesn't, then don't ... but you already know that

personally, I would not even begin a Ms relationship with someone who closed that much of themselves off from me, its just never going to work out for me - not even from a "getting to know you" perspective. Beside ... how could i scrub floors and iron shirts if i never got into his house .... basioc incompatibility.

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 10:37:15 AM

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Yes people do get back together after being released, same as in vanilla break-ups, it isn't always final.

If you two do decide to try again are you both going to do things differently? Has anything changed to reduce the chance of similar issues coming up in the future?

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 10:37:54 AM

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No. This isn't the type of relationship I want. Not at all. I have learned more about myself from this man in the past two years than I have in my entire lifetime... good things, things that have helped me to grow and learn.....there have always been " reasons" why..... he worked two full time jobs, he had roommates that weren't in this lifestyle, so on and so forth. I know for a fact that all of that is true. However, It had gotten to a point where I had to say, "Stop, either I am a part of you life or I'm not!" He has moved out, gotten one full time job, I thought everything was moving along, FINALLY..... he assured me he would make me a part of his every day life from here on out.. I still found myself questioning his word this weekend. Turns out, I was in the wrong.Everything was legit. Still, I feel that he needs to accept his part of this whole situation.

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 10:46:18 AM

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To velvetears, I have been IMing with a girl for about a month...telling her my situation. She has been telling me about the man that TRAINED her for two years before she got with her now Master. All of a sudden yesterday, the lightbulb went off for her and she said, ' OMG ! You are talking about so and so.... ". I said, "yes". She thinks the world of this man and like to died when she realized the connection. She confirmed alot of things for me...he has been truthful with me, albeit he is a very private man that she had a hard time getting to know as well... she has known him for several years. Her Master knows him.. There isn't a doubt in my mind that the man is all he says he is. However, my frustrations just finally got the better of me and I vented .

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 10:55:19 AM

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quote:

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[ He has moved out, gotten one full time job, I thought everything was moving along, FINALLY..... he assured me he would make me a part of his every day life from here on out.. I still found myself questioning his word this weekend. Turns out, I was in the wrong.Everything was legit. Still, I feel that he needs to accept his part of this whole situation. ]

Hello JANAAZ1
Remember you asked for opinions.

I do not take slaves back. If the relationship fails then I do not waste my time trying to rebuild failure. It failed for a reason , It can stay failed. Just the way I deal with dead relationships.
As for the quoted parts above, He made the changes you asked and still you don't trust him. If on the rare chance I gave someone a second chance and they behaved in this manner they would be eradicated instantaneously from my world. What changes have you made in your behaviors to make things work? I mean besides demanding that he fit you in more than he was prepared to do originally. sounds like a needy little topping from the bottom to me. I regret if this causes you discomfort, but it seems to me that He is trying and you are here on a public forum complaining. I am also interested in the methodology in which you claimed to have learned more of the truths about Him. Just asking

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 10:56:39 AM

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at frist i wanted more than any thing to have my master back cause i needed that turst, but know, I have no trust at all in him and i not sure if i can get that back he was the one person that i thought would never hurt me now i trust no one but my son
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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 10:59:54 AM

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Fast reply:
Yes, sometimes people get back together after break-up, heck I know a few couples who have divorced then remarried each other later on down the line. In my opinion the harder question is should they get back together. This is a question I have been asking myself recently.

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 11:04:46 AM

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to constrictor1, I have no problem with your opinion. I really don't. I thought the whole point of this forum thing was to be able to ask questions. I didn't do it to put his name out here. Something I would never do ! I assumed, truthfully, that most Masters would concur with your stance. I don't hold out alot of hope that he will take me back and try to work this out with me. But, yes, I do have a tiny bit of hope or I wouldn't be writing this is the first place. As far as how the info was obtained, it happened exactly as I said. As off the wall as that may sound... ITS A SMALL WORLD.... If things don't work out, I have learned alot from him. I will miss his guidance terribly. The whole situation has just been a bit of a struggle...

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 11:05:46 AM

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I'm not seeing where ANY of this is his "blame"?

You accept this situation. You willingly chose to be and remain committed to it for two whole years.

Then, out of nowhere, you decide it is no good, throw a huge hissy fit, saying you no longer trust or believe him even though he does not seem to have done ANYTHING differently than what he's always done- gets pissed and says "Fine, you don't want this, then go"

You then get remorseful and half-apologize because you've decided you were somewhat wrong, but you still want him to change who he is and what he's been doing so you can be happy together.

Now- there's nothing wrong with you wanting X type of relationship. It may very well be that he's been lying to you and holding back this whole time and you've been happily swallowing it all until now and he's pissy that you're catching on.

But I don't see any evidence of wrong doing on his part. He presented you with "This is who I am and how I will be in this relationship" then when you go bonkers about it two years in he says "All right, you don't want it, then get out of here and find what you do want"

Now you expect him to CHANGE what you accepted for two years and you are all cranky because he's not just taking you into his arms and becoming super dom again?

Again, he may change, you may change, you both may decide this relationship is worth the shifting and learning new ways of communicating together. But not until you stop suggesting he be penitent for something when he hasn't done anything wrong so far as I can tell except perhaps being a little short tempered when his partner of two years goes bonkers on him. He's even giving you the possibility of changing things out and remaking the relationship.

I'm pretty amazed you feel you have a leg to stand on and the gall to keep whining about him.

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 11:07:40 AM

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and you personally know these people who have vouched for him? IRL, I mean?

If not, then who is to say how much you can trust their word.....

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 11:10:39 AM

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Do Masters ever take back a Slave that they have " released".

Yes, they do. But, just like couples, who get divorced and sometimes remarry and, boyfriends and girlfriends, who sometimes break-up and then get back together, it doesn't always work out very well and, can sometimes be very disastrous.

If you BOTH feel that the 'release' was premature and due only to a mis-communication and everything else was good in your relationship for BOTH of you, it could possibly be worth a try to see if you can work things out. But, i would recommend being cautious and taking things a little slow, just to be on the safe side.

Not knowing the 'whole' story, it's impossible to say what you should or shouldn't do. But, based on what you wrote in your OP, this is what i think.

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 11:13:34 AM

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I'd be happy to be done with that sort of relationship. I fail to see how someone can go two years without being a part of someone's basic life. He had roomies...who cares? That's no reason he can't invite you over even just to have a drink. I, personally, fail to see how you were wrong...I would havekicked his butt to the curb long ago. The only wrong I see is that you waited TWO YEARS to all of a sudden say "No, this is fishy."

I'm a private person but I would never leave a partner out of my everyday life for a whole two years, no matter how busy my life is.

He may or may not take ya back, but I personally wouldn't hold my breath; just ends up more torturing.

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 11:14:04 AM

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Hrmmmm... not only what the other posters said about him not introducing you to his life in two long years. Umm, sounds like you enjoy the dynamic between you two, respect his private nature, but your needs weren't being met. Maybe you shouldn't worry about a relationship where he won't ever take care of a strong need...and introduce you to his life? But if he will take care of your needs where your needs don't compromise his needs for privacy, and you two get back together, something bad did happen and maybe moving on and doing more good to make the bad dwindle in comparison is your only hope?

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 11:14:33 AM

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To Everyone and OP~
Where do you find the strength to stay true to your wants needs and desires, while submitting to another's needs, wants and desires?
Its a dichotomy im still learning to wrap my head around.
Meanwhile, i get a totally insanely happy feeling to know that i can do this. Its actually ok.
This is what i want and take it or leave it.
Thats so awesome.
Be strong is all i can say. If you figure out the eternal mystery please do share with the class. xox

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 11:14:41 AM

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I havent read any of the replies yet but I just have to say point blank....he's married. No doubt once so ever in my mind, you probably wont believe me but I guarantee you he is. There is only one reason that I have come across why a man wont take you to meet any of his friends or let you know where he lives....because he's married.

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 11:17:05 AM

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Where do you find the strength to stay true to your wants needs and desires, while submitting to another's needs, wants and desires?

You find the relationship where submitting to their needs is exactly the same as being true to your wants needs and desires.

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RE: "Beng Released" - 6/8/2008 11:57:45 AM

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Perfectly said... i'm still looking...

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ORIGINAL: mzbehavin
Where do you find the strength to stay true to your wants needs and desires, while submitting to another's needs, wants and desires?

You find the relationship where submitting to their needs is exactly the same as being true to your wants needs and desires.

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