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RE: why is it - 11/2/2005 6:45:57 PM   
fyreredsub


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a new nic for you pink?
i like the pix.

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RE: why is it - 11/3/2005 11:39:50 AM   
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I suppose in that perfect world everyone would know what they were, but my observation is that significant, let alone complete, self-awareness is a rare thing. Were we to assume, however, that people on this site were self-aware, perhaps some of them would be aware of an urge within themselves for someone to disrespect what they say, override their objections, penetrate their boundaries and take control. Or would that be too much like dominance and submission?

CitizenCane


First, we all must agree on the definition of "self aware". The dictionary definition is found here:

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/aware

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

However, i imagine when You used the term, You had some sort of model of human potential in mind. The famous Maslow "Heirarchy of Needs" is a humanistic approach to modeling human mental health. According to Maslow, a self-actualiized individual has met his needs on tiers below and is concerned with problems outside himself; is not concerned with societal conventions, and exhibits other desirable qualities.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/entries/bhmasl.html

"A Science Odyssey: People and Discovery"

According to Maslow, a person must fulfill the lower tiers of needs, such as food, shelter and clothing, before they can address themselves to the higher tiers. Accordingly, age is no assurance that an individual will become self-actualized. Nowadays, it seems less and less likely that age affords this opportunity due to the huge losses many older Americans have sustained in their retirement assets. Placed in precarious financial straits, older Americans may be forced to deal with their most basic needs.

The search for love is a need on a tier below self-actualization, so if we follow Maslow strictly, very few who are single on CM can be self-actualized. Also, the need to control one's environment is also a lower-tier need, so anyone attempting to exert control over people with whom he has no relationship, etc., cannot be self-actualized.

Because it is associated with self-actualization, an ability to disregard societal conventions might suggest that more BDMS'ers and Goreans are self-actualized than vanilla people. However, spend any time on the boards and see the flame wars; spend time in the chat rooms and see the men demanding to be addresssed as "Master" by all and sundry; read your email and wonder why people cannot read profiles. i think it's a nice thought that somehow the CM community has a larger class of self-actualized people than, say, Yahoo Personals, but i think it's no more than that. It would be fun to study though; too bad the current political climate would make any such grant application unlikely to be succesful.

Myself, i think Maslow's basic points are irrefutable; as it is said in the URL, " a man dying of thirst will forget his thirst if his oxygen is cut off". It is in straitions at the higher levels that i am not as inclined to agree. i know people who i would deem self-actualized who have been searching for a partner/family member for a long time. i know others in committed relationships who seem juvenile.

This Op reminds me of other threads in which members wished for a CM screening process; no "fakes" as defined by them; no one without an above-average IQ; no one without good manners, etc.

i suspect we'd never, ever agree on a screening criteria, and the very notion rather contradicts CM's mission, to provide BDMS'ers (and Goreans, should anyone feel they must be treated as a separate group) with a multi-faceted site offering everything from free searchable profiles to chat rooms to a message board. To my knowledge, there is no site comparable to CM...and entirely free, run by Mods who work hard.

candystripper


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RE: why is it - 11/3/2005 12:36:29 PM   
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I have had people contact my slave and my ex's when we were together, when told they were already taken the Dom (and I use this term lightly) said I am your Dom now, and you will know what it is to be owned by a real Dom.


Think I had that guy hit on me. He got confused when I said I don't need a Dom I AM a Domme. He proceeded to go on about all I need is a good man...got more confused when I said I had one...at my feet. He then started in on his foot/boot fetish. I asked him how he'd feel with a stiletto in his eye before blocking his PM. Some people's children LOL

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RE: why is it - 11/3/2005 12:48:38 PM   
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Back to the issue:- I got an email today from a sub who appologised for writing and said that she knew that I wasn't looking but she had read you post (quoted above) and asked if i would mind being a practice partner whilst she honed her "Master Approaching" skills. Of course I agreed, but what a good idea. I guess it is a form of mentorship, but it is something which I think is great that some one realised that they were new enough and wanted to learn.


Iron Bear I think that it shows a great deal of sense. The opportunity to be mentored by someone respected for being knowledgable, firm & fair could even pluck my switchy strings into a respectful "yes Master". LOL And BTW that wouldn't just come from newbies when it came to you or John. She is a very lucky girl.

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RE: why is it - 11/3/2005 3:35:44 PM   
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a new nic for you pink?
i like the pix.

fyeredsub


i like it too; especially since a dear friend point out i had misspelt it and was now a "candy" "stripper", LMAO. TY for the compliment

candystripper

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RE: why is it - 11/3/2005 4:10:57 PM   
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never would have guessed on a mispelling.............its cute anyway

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RE: why is it - 11/3/2005 4:19:06 PM   
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quite actually the original post was b/c i had recieved a very rude reply to my not interested in you thanks anyway.

i was curious as to why some people feel the need too insult someone when they are trying to be polite in answering their rather rude advances.

i guess the closest it would be too, is good manners or maybe the get on your knees threads.............

we all have different criterias to what we feel would be a good match.......that is what makes the world go round,different strokes for different folks.lol.

but ill manners is not it for me, i don't think there are many of us that want that.if people do well thats their choice.

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RE: why is it - 11/5/2005 3:53:37 PM   
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A political negation should always suffice. Any more and the "block' is useful. I haven't been abused textually, but if I was I'd simply delete. I guess it is a realisation that a certain percentile of men will be boorish, indolent pricks. Sad but true.

However, periods of silence or a lack of responsivity can be difficult to read. Is it sullenness, standoffishness, or merely being inundated.

Rude advances should not be countenanced and ought to be met with sassy, sarcastic responses that are ascerbic and cut to the heart of the matter. It is license to respond cleverly. The greatest insult is one that is made where the receiver is blissfully unaware of the magnitude of the the slur. :-P

I'd take a leaf from a pragmatic kiwi women and say: 'Piss Off'.

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RE: why is it - 11/5/2005 7:12:16 PM   
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lol, i'm rather good at getting my insults across,subtly, when need be.


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ORIGINAL: Jacques1000

A political negation should always suffice. Any more and the "block' is useful. I haven't been abused textually, but if I was I'd simply delete. I guess it is a realisation that a certain percentile of men will be boorish, indolent pricks. Sad but true.

However, periods of silence or a lack of responsivity can be difficult to read. Is it sullenness, standoffishness, or merely being inundated.

Rude advances should not be countenanced and ought to be met with sassy, sarcastic responses that are ascerbic and cut to the heart of the matter. It is license to respond cleverly. The greatest insult is one that is made where the receiver is blissfully unaware of the magnitude of the the slur. :-P

I'd take a leaf from a pragmatic kiwi women and say: 'Piss Off'.



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RE: why is it - 11/10/2005 4:38:45 AM   
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Some people should take a cold shower before coming into collarme. A good Dom keeps a level head. Reads what's been written. And understands, especially the obvious.

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RE: why is it - 11/13/2005 6:26:54 PM   
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"It's just men"? LMAO!

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